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Kevin 03-30-2016 12:32 PM
SFSU Student Filmed While Accosting Another Student re "Cultural Appropriation"
 
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n Francisco State University said Tuesday it was investigating an incident captured on video in which a black woman confronted a white man on campus for wearing dreadlocks.

In a video posted on YouTube on Monday, the man and woman can be heard arguing in a hallway about his hair.

"You're saying that I can't have a hair style because of your culture? Why?" the man said.

"Because it's my culture," she said.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...329-story.html

--Are dreadlocks a good example of cultural appropriation?

--Who was in the right?

--Is it justifiable to put hands on someone you believe has committed a microaggression?

DubaiSis 03-30-2016 12:57 PM
Shouldn't good taste apply? I'm not a fan of dreadlocks, but they look especially goofy on white people. No, she's not allowed to verbally assault him over it, but also no, he should stop being a huge dork and just wash his hair. Nobody is shocked, you're not being counter-culture, you're not making a political statement. You're just a dorky white guy who looks like he's trying to hard to not try.

Kevin 03-30-2016 01:07 PM
I'm from and reside in Oklahoma. I don't know if I've ever seen dreadlocks on a white person--at least in person. I thought this might be a fairly common hairstyle on the west coast? No judgment. I hear they like cargo shorts out there too.

AZTheta 03-30-2016 01:13 PM
Anne Lamott.

She's written about her dreads and her church has no problem with her hairstyle. This is IMO much ado about nothing.

Judge not...

carnation 03-30-2016 01:15 PM
I know a man and a woman, both white and living out west, who have dreads and who would've probably punched this woman in the face if she'd come after them. Thinking about it--who cares how other people look? Should black people only wear African clothing? Should I never wear my Guatemalan shirt? Should my adopted Asian daughters not wear American and European styles?

tcsparky 03-30-2016 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2408105)
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...329-story.html

--Are dreadlocks a good example of cultural..... They're not an example of her culture, unless she is from Ancient Greece, between the 6th and 8th centuries BC. That was the earliest reference I could find to the wearing of dreadlocks.

--Who was in the right? She was being an idiot. He was in the right. He was wearing his hairstyle of choice, and it had nothing to do with her. She had no right to accost him.

--Is it justifiable to put hands on someone you believe has committed a microaggression? No. A "microaggression" is in the perception of the person taking offense. If she perceived his stupid hairstyle as aggressive toward her, that was her own issue. Accosting someone and putting your hands on them because YOU have decided they deserve it is not acceptable nor legal.
See answer above.

thetalady 03-30-2016 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2408107)
Shouldn't good taste apply? I'm not a fan of dreadlocks, but they look especially goofy on white people. No, she's not allowed to verbally assault him over it, but also no, he should stop being a huge dork and just wash his hair. Nobody is shocked, you're not being counter-culture, you're not making a political statement. You're just a dorky white guy who looks like he's trying to hard to not try.
Are you kidding?? NO, "good taste" as determined by anyone other than the wearer, does not apply. If he wants to look like this, it is HIS choice. I don't like dreads on anyone, but this is nothing but my flea bitten opinion. Whatever his reasons for wearing this hairstyle are his alone. The style might effect his life when dealing with other people, but it is HIS choice.

She had absolutely no right to say anything to him, question or berate him, much less grab his arm several times. She is lucky he didn't punch her.

I am surprised at your comment, DubaiSis.

DaffyKD 03-30-2016 03:11 PM
According to Wikipedia this is the historical background of dreadlocks. Seems to have crossed numerous cultures and religions over time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadlocks

DaffyKD

honeychile 03-30-2016 03:50 PM
I've a lot of white people wearing them (Grateful Dead concert, anyone?), but am not a fan. HOWEVER, not being part of the style police, I don't think there's anything culturally wrong in someone of any race wearing them.

DeltaBetaBaby 03-30-2016 04:55 PM
Cultural appropriation is a real thing, and while it is complicated to determine exactly what is appropriation vs. appreciation/sharing, and/or the consequences thereof, it's really disappointing to see (white) people on this thread dismiss it wholesale.

Of course she had no right to lay her hands on him, but it would be nice if you at least tried to understand why a WoC would see this as a microaggression.

carnation 03-30-2016 05:30 PM
What kind of person obsesses over what someone else is wearing, as long as it's not grossly obscene?

I just now turned around and asked 3 of my (adopted) Asian daughters and the Hispanic one about this and showed them the story. They thought the woman was a jerk and commented that if the guy had grabbed at her, the cops would've been all over him. OK, Hispanic SIL just wandered over and agreed with them.

DubaiSis 03-30-2016 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2408113)
Are you kidding?? NO, "good taste" as determined by anyone other than the wearer, does not apply. If he wants to look like this, it is HIS choice. I don't like dreads on anyone, but this is nothing but my flea bitten opinion. Whatever his reasons for wearing this hairstyle are his alone. The style might effect his life when dealing with other people, but it is HIS choice.

She had absolutely no right to say anything to him, question or berate him, much less grab his arm several times. She is lucky he didn't punch her.

I am surprised at your comment, DubaiSis.
I SAID taste should apply. And you can't legislate that. The guy can dress absolutely as dorky as he wants. But he'll still look like a dork.

PiKA2001 03-30-2016 06:41 PM
Why are college kids so overly sensitive these days? This is stupid, but not as stupid at the "pained" kids at Emory. Are they really this upset or is this just kids looking for things to bitch about, just to bitch about? And yes, I'm referring to them as kids because I don't think they are acting adult like at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ger-feel-safe/

thetalady 03-30-2016 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2408119)
Cultural appropriation is a real thing, and while it is complicated to determine exactly what is appropriation vs. appreciation/sharing, and/or the consequences thereof, it's really disappointing to see (white) people on this thread dismiss it wholesale.

Of course she had no right to lay her hands on him, but it would be nice if you at least tried to understand why a WoC would see this as a microaggression.
What a load of absolute crap.

And I say that with lots and lots of microaggression.

SWTXBelle 03-30-2016 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2408109)
Anne Lamott.

She's written about her dreads and her church has no problem with her hairstyle. This is IMO much ado about nothing.

Judge not...
Well, OBVIOUSLY we all know what a horrible, awful, person Anne Lamott is . . .


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