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Do you think being in IFC is really a benefit?
I have read a number of your posts complaining about the unrealistic rules and regulations that IFC imposes on your organizations but what are the benefits?

My fraternity hasn't been in IFC for years and we are doing great compared to the IFC fraternities on my campus. I think being out of IFC actually benefits us.

What fraternity are you in? I think it benefits because we can see what other people are doing, and if we follow those guidelines we will be respected.

Yes, IFC can be very beficial! It is made of Greeks to help Govern Greeks as opposed to the School doing it for us!

As you can tell, if you read many threads, that the majority of Colleges are some what Anti Greek. If we as a Group Show what we actually do and the resposibility that we carry for each and every Chapter on campus, iit looks much better than the fighting that goes on!:D

The weekest link is still strong if the chain is pulled together!

I along with OP PRIME would also like to know where and what you are at and a member of if it does not worry you to much!

As you can see, 99 % of us on GC are here to help each other!:)

Its funny cuz I have seen on here how many (but not a majority) of orgs. who feel the IFC, or whatever their governing body may be, is useless to them and put them under restrictions. However at Umich. it seems like every org is trying to get on a governing body whether its Panhel, BGA, IFC or MCGC. I beleive some are even memebrs of two. The only time I have even heard of a fraternity having a problem with the IFC when when XYZ came under allegations of hazing and they held a hearing to decide whether to remove them or not. They decided to remove them and members of XYZ threw a temper tantrum and even spit at the board (some members of XYZ were former members of ABC who had been thrown off for other bad reason). IFC told every govening bady if they could please cooperate with them and not hold any functions with XYZ and everyone agreed. XYZ came crawling back though, because with them not being on the IFC, no one wanted to become involved in any BS they might do and no wanted to be social with them.

It all depends on your campus. If for example, you were at Penn State and not on IFC, I imagine you couldn't be in Thon, etc. that would really hurt since it is such a big Greek thing. But at other campuses, it might not matter.

However, if you're not on IFC, even if you think the rules suck, you can do very little to change them.

33Girl Is Right: It Depends
 

If your IFC is strong and organized to help fraternities, then it's worthwhile to be a member. If, however, if the IFC is simply a front for the administrative types who use it to enforce their will on the fraternities, then you should see IFC for what it is. At least one school has the IFC, which is somewhat of an arm of the administration, and they also have a presidents' council, which is composed of just the fraternity presidents, uninfluenced by the administration. Cooperation is in everyone's self interest, but the fraternities can and should protect their rights. On several occasions the presidents have asked alumni/attorneys to represent their position to the administration. It works well as long as no one becomes uncivil.

The best way to make IFC beneficial for your campus is to get involved. The rules and ways that IFC run will only change if you get on the board and affect change. I try to encourage all of our chapters to get a rep on Panhel Exec Board so that they are surely represented in all Panhel decisions. It's extremely helpful!!

Couldn't you see what other people are doing without being in IFC?

I think your premise is totally false. The IFC is composed of Greeks but the Greeks DO NOT govern Greeks, the schools govern greeks and you yourself have stated many times that many schools are anti- greek.

If every GLO dropped off of campus, couldn't you still form your own IFC and work to help each other and set your own rules?

How come many university policies only apply to greeks? If you dropped off campus you would still have to follow all local, state and federal laws, but you could then be held to the same student standards as every other student and you could get rid of the BS double standards that exists on most campuses.

As far as Thon, of course you can still enter but not under your fraternity name. You cannot enter as Alpha Beta...you would have to be under "Joe Bob's Boys" or individually. My point was that if events like this that confer "bragging rights" are a big deal on your campus, to not be able to participate in them as a fraternity would most likely be detrimental.

A lot of nationals' hazing policies are stricter than anything at school level. There are a lot of things that can be changed within IFC and Panhel, but the group has to have the balls to stand up to the advisor and question their decisions. I know from a Panhel point of view, I've heard of individual advisors doing things that are NOT good for the groups and completely contrary to NPC rules. That's when you have to say "hey, I don't think so" as a group and go over their heads.

madmax, I did not say it was the ultimate! If you do not have reprentation for the Greek say so and the Schol makes the calls with no input? Well what do you think!:confused:

MMAX, I did not mean to infer that the IFC is all powerful but another Too that we as Greeks can use to have our voice heard

A lot depends on the School and their Feelings about Greeks on the canpus!

If there is NO voice at all then they can feel free to what they damn well please do about the Greek Orgs. on campus! IFC is not a pacea for the school you attend but at least there is a voice!

If I am reading right, there are more and more Chapters that are going on Campus' that do not recognize them! This Depends on the Individal Organizations. It sounds like you have had a very bad experience:confused: