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NoDak 09-02-2015 10:17 AM

LXA - UND Allegations of Gender Discrimination
 
http://www.inforum.com/news/3830076-...because-he-gay

clemsongirl 09-02-2015 10:19 AM

Wow. I seriously hope this is not true, because this is heinous.

Sen's Revenge 09-02-2015 02:40 PM

Yikes.

lake 09-02-2015 04:27 PM

I heard about this too and was so revolted. I'll wait to see what the investigation uncovers, but if there is any substance to this then I think heads should roll...

clemsongirl 09-02-2015 06:49 PM

Also, this isn't really gender discrimination so much as sexual orientation or sexual identity/expression discrimination. Or, more plainly, accusations of a hate crime.

Tom Earp 09-03-2015 01:47 PM

I for one will wait and see what the out come will be!

LXA chapters have had gay members such as my own and was treated with respect!

If this turns out to be true, I will be very disappointed in my fellow Brothers!

Katmandu 09-03-2015 06:19 PM

Yes, Tom, me too. My son is an LXA and this would not reflect his chapter. I think nationals will investigate this thoroughly and act appropriately, if action is needed. They don't tolerate misbehavior.

Tom Earp 09-04-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katmandu (Post 2333475)
Yes, Tom, me too. My son is an LXA and this would not reflect his chapter. I think nationals will investigate this thoroughly and act appropriately, if action is needed. They don't tolerate misbehavior.

I am sure I H Q will check this out thoroughly and then make a recommendation.

If it is true, this goes against ALL principles of L X A. I would then be first in line to suspend them and kick out the / those members. I have always told my guys, if I find out any hazing problems I will call I H Q myself!:o

lake 09-04-2015 04:03 PM

Apparently their alumni advisor is an openly gay man, and personally knows all the members in this chapter. The advisor says he was welcomed "with open arms", that his being gay wasn't something the chapter tried to avoid. He says the members ask him all the time about his spouse and children and how things are going. So it'll be interesting to see how this story develops.

I have a cousin who is a member of this chapter, and I believe the sitting North Dakota Attorney General (an upcoming gubernatorial candidate next year) is also an alum of this chapter.

Kevin 09-04-2015 05:26 PM

Some chapters just have dumbass members who should not have been initiated in the first place, but somehow slipped through the cracks.

--it'll only get worse as we move to eliminate pledging.

PKT4LIFE 09-04-2015 08:14 PM

Many RM problems involve alcohol. What people say when sober verses when "boozed up" is totally different.

Regardless, unacceptable behavior

Tom Earp 09-05-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2335509)
Some chapters just have dumbass members who should not have been initiated in the first place, but somehow slipped through the cracks.

--it'll only get worse as we move to eliminate pledging.

Kevin, just to remind you that LXA outlawed hazing @ 1985 and seems to be working out very well.:)

True, any chapter will have dumb assed actives and I think an Alumni group should be on top of something like this and quash it in the bud! Here is when I point out that Alums are still important part of any GLO.

Kevin, you and I are a lot in sync on 100 % of things and I thank you for your post!

lake 10-08-2015 06:17 PM

Well this is an interesting twist at the end. I wonder if all the media who were so happy to spread the word about a possible hate crime involving a fraternity will just as eagerly run a follow up about the supposed "victim" being the actual aggressor and making false reports to police. :rolleyes:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news...ght-police-say

Kevin 10-09-2015 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 2336817)
Kevin, just to remind you that LXA outlawed hazing @ 1985 and seems to be working out very well.:)

True, any chapter will have dumb assed actives and I think an Alumni group should be on top of something like this and quash it in the bud! Here is when I point out that Alums are still important part of any GLO.

Kevin, you and I are a lot in sync on 100 % of things and I thank you for your post!

Any chapter which is part of the FIPG likely banned hazing while I was still in diapers. Banning dumbass, risky activity isn't going to end it. The fact is, our collegiate members are only members for 4 years. They depend on alumni for their institutional memory. If alumni show up to the house to show them bows and toes and to sing racist basement songs, that will be the culture of the chapter.

Tom Earp 10-10-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2374478)
Any chapter which is part of the FIPG likely banned hazing while I was still in diapers. Banning dumbass, risky activity isn't going to end it. The fact is, our collegiate members are only members for 4 years. They depend on alumni for their institutional memory. If alumni show up to the house to show them bows and toes and to sing racist basement songs, that will be the culture of the chapter.

Kevin,
that is so true!

My chapter is blessed with a great Alumni group who would not put up with any stupidity in any kind of hazing!

You being a founder probably did the same as i did, NO Hazing.

But old line chapters who hazed, I am sure that the mentality of hey we were hazed and if good enough for us, it is good enough for current members. These thought must stop!


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