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Is this a true story???
OK, on the radio this morning I heard the guy talking about a fraternity that was suspended/expelled because they were bringing in homeless guys, getting them drunk, putting boxing gloves and then having them fight. The members were placing bets and they called it "homeless cockfighting" - the guy was reading it as a newsstory, it wasn't a comedy bit.
I just want to know if anyone else had heard this, or know more about it. . . . scary if true. Jeff |
News to me, but keep us posted!
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There is a thread already on GC regarding this. I think it was titled Funny story ????? but I do know that it was started by Shultz (?). I would do a search for it.
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Chit Chat forum, page two, started by Schultz
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that is so horrible i can't belive that any one would do that ?!!
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If you read the article, the one guy says they made all of it up to get a rise out of people. Makes you wonder...
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theres also a thread on it on the risk management board called drunken bum boxing night or something like that
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This sounds like a story I just read in our local paper about the Kappa Alpha Order at the University of Tennessee Knoxville (my alma matter!)
Knoxville --Kappa Alpha campus fraternity chapters at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville and at Vanderbilt University in Nashville are in trouble. The 40-member chapter at Vanderbilt received a two-year suspension this week from the national office for hazing. Meanwhile, the 86-member UT chapter received a temporary suspension over allegations that members hired strippers, held cock fights in the fraternity house and provided alcohol to homeless people to get them to fight in staged tournaments. UT chapter president Patrick Diener made the allegations in comments to The Daily Beacon, the campus newspaper. Members said Diener was joking. "I honestly believe there is very...little or no truth to (Diener's comments)," said Ashley Worboys, assistant executive director of the Lexington VA based national Kappa Alpha Order. Still, he said, "it was extremely unfortunate that the chapter president would make such a untrue statement because they reflect poorly upon their chapter, the Kappa Alpha Order, and the University of Tennessee." Asked about the suspension, Diener said, "Everythign is up in the air right now. Nothing is final." The article goes on about hazing at Vanderbilt. My question is...why the hell-o would the president make such statements to the paper ---as a joke??? |
This is very very true and sadly they really did it.
KA facing suspension pending inquiry John Tester Student Volume 89 Number 30 Wednesday, February 20, 2002 In a mix of confusion, lies and bad behavior, it was announced Tuesday that the university could lose another well-established fraternity. Due to the recent suspension from national headquarters, members of Kappa Alpha Order fraternity are not only lacking a charter on their walls, but also are possibly becoming the newest additions to Knoxville's tight housing market. The decision was handed down Tuesday when national headquarters declared that it had enough substantive evidence to force a suspension of the organization pending a 10-to-14 day investigation. According to Larry Wiese, executive director for KA headquarters, the national office is investigating acts which "contradict with national policies and procedures." The president of the chapter at the University of Tennessee, Patrick Diener, pointed out several incidences that he felt could have lead to the action. Diener said one such incident involved the fraternity's tradition of cock fighting and gambling in the house's basement. "It wasn't that big of a deal with nationals. They let us go with that," Diener said. The president said that headquarters were also disappointed in the organization's use of strippers for entertainment purposes. "We usually hire a stripper about once a week ... but (in fraternities) it's not something that anyone talks about," Diener said. "But this wasn't even the least of headquarters' worries." Diener said the last straw came when the national office discovered the chapter's recreational boxing tournament in which members recruited local homeless persons, "liquored" them up, gave them large boxing gloves and "let them go to town." The junior in hotel and restaurant management said events such as these happened frequently in the past decade, but the new national officers would not allow it. Another KA member, Robert Sawyer, a senior in College Scholars, collaborated the account given by the fraternity president. However, Sawyer later recanted his story and said that everything he and the organization's president said were complete lies. "Pretty much everything I told you wasn't true. I was frustrated over all of this stuff, and I thought that it would be printed even though it wasn't true, so it'd be like an inside joke, but it was mistake." Although he said his actions will reflect poorly on the image of the Greek community, Sawyer said he was remorseful and apologetic. "To be honest, I think it reflects more poorly on me, than the fraternity or anyone else. I guess, looking at it from my perspective, I was thinking that 'we're all off campus and if there's no more KA,' I rationalized lying." Sawyer said he was not actively involved in any of the behavior that lead to the disciplinary actions against the fraternity. "I didn't have anything to do with whatever they were kicked off for. I'm not a mainstream guy in the fraternity. I don't bear any ill will toward KA, but I don't have much to do with that fraternity anymore." Sawyer said scrutiny from nationals was probably due to past problems in the fraternity. "We've kind of been in the bad with nationals when we got in probation few years ago. To be honest I could think of a bunch (of reasons), but it wouldn't be fair to tell you and add to the speculation." The Jan. 10, 2001 issue of The Daily Beacon reported that KA was suspended for a year in 1999 when some of the members were involved in the theft of Christmas decorations in Sequoyah Hills. The chapter was sanctioned by the Interfraternity Council Judicial Board last year to be on social probation for a year and to perform community service. There is currently an on-going disciplinary investigation of KA's recent actions by both the national chapter of KA and the university. ©Copyright The Daily Beacon Online Editor Email: beacon@utk.edu Letters to Editor Email: newsroom@utk.edu |
Thanks for the Beacon post Erudite - mine was from the Maryville Daily Times. I just dont understand why the president came forward with these allegations...I mean if he was so unhappy with how everything was going, why did he participate??
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Ok, the buzz around campus is that someone turned them in for this and they were investigated by their nationals and subsequently lost their charter. After they lost the charter the pres. and a few other members were angry and had a sorta "what the hell" type of attitude so they just started talking. Then after realizing what exactly they had just admitted to they started to back track.
It's really sad and unfortunately all some people can think about is how sad it is that KA lost their charter. Well honestly I think the sad part is that they would take advantage of homeless people and think nothing of it. :mad: |
Unfortunatly, this is another sad editorial towards the Greek Community as a whole!:(
The members who do these things and many others is a sad commentary for the young men/women of today. I always feel it is an honor to belong to LXA and am still participating in the International Events when I can but am deeply involved in what my chapter does! It is a culmanation of things like this, Holloween Party at Auburn, Hazing, Date Rape, Alcohol abuse that lead to the negative idea of the public opinion by the public and places another nail in teh Greek Societys coffin! Each Organization by not only on the National's level BUT the Individual Chapters Themselves. |
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Erudite: what year are you? I graduated UTK in 99 and still live in the Knoxville area. Good to see another TN person on Greek Chat! |
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