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SH80 06-02-2001 10:00 PM

Non-secret fraternities/sororities
 
Do they exist? If they do, what are some?

33girl 06-02-2001 10:27 PM

Delta Upsilon is a non-secret fraternity...I think there are some brothers who visit here occasionally who can give us more info.

BrianMUDU 06-02-2001 11:44 PM

Yes, there are a few non-secret fraternities, but none are as big as Delta Upsilon, which is the largest and oldest non-secret fraternity.

We were founded at Williams College in 1834 -- we are the sixth oldest fraternity in North America. From The Cornerstone (our manual), "DU had no need for mystic principles shrouded in secret ritual. Our aims were open, honest and direct."

Personally, I feel that being in a non-secret fraternity has its advantages. Not only do we get to experience and live a life like every other fraternity, but we also get a chance to show everyone else what we are about. Our initiation is open to public scrutiny. We invite parents, friends, and university administration, so not only do we have great brotherhood, but others like faculty know that we do not have anything to hide and that allows us to sometimes have a higher level of respect with them.

I'm not saying that a non-secret fraternity is better than any other, don't get me wrong. It is just different, that's all. But I see no disadvantages, but sure, I'm obviously biased http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

You can see pictures of our initiation and other stuff on our website, www.mudeltau.org. It takes place on the front lawn of our Chapter house, which is unique to our campus.

Brian

Leslie Anne 06-03-2001 06:42 AM

Brian,

I've never known much about DU. Thank you so much for sharing what your fraternity is about. I loved your website. You must be very proud. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

P.S. Are you in any of the photos?

SH80 06-03-2001 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianMUDU:
Yes, there are a few non-secret fraternities, but none are as big as Delta Upsilon, which is the largest and oldest non-secret fraternity.

We were founded at Williams College in 1834 -- we are the sixth oldest fraternity in North America. From The Cornerstone (our manual), "DU had no need for mystic principles shrouded in secret ritual. Our aims were open, honest and direct."

Personally, I feel that being in a non-secret fraternity has its advantages. Not only do we get to experience and live a life like every other fraternity, but we also get a chance to show everyone else what we are about. Our initiation is open to public scrutiny. We invite parents, friends, and university administration, so not only do we have great brotherhood, but others like faculty know that we do not have anything to hide and that allows us to sometimes have a higher level of respect with them.

I'm not saying that a non-secret fraternity is better than any other, don't get me wrong. It is just different, that's all. But I see no disadvantages, but sure, I'm obviously biased http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

You can see pictures of our initiation and other stuff on our website, www.mudeltau.org. It takes place on the front lawn of our Chapter house, which is unique to our campus.

Brian

I am very impressed! I don't agree with that secrecy thing that much either. To bad you guys are the only well known non-secret GLO, I hope this will become more of a trend some day in the future. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

BrianMUDU 06-03-2001 01:36 PM

Leslie,

I am in a few pictures in our album. I'm usually the one taking the pictures, so I'm not in a lot, but someone else took the pictures in our Puddle Pull album. I'm the guy in the front spot of our team line up in the blue shirt, here (long URL!): http://www.dlugosz.net/~mudelt au/phpix/view.php?dispsize=Original&album=2001%2FPledge+Pud dle+Pull&pic=duentrance3.jpg&start=12&picindex=19& user=

If you go to the album link below, in all the pictures named du[something].jpg (ie du1.jpg, du2.jpg, etc.) I'm the front guy on our team. I was eligible to pull with our spring pledge class.
http://www.dlugosz.net/~mudeltau/phpix/index.php?album=2001%2FPledge+Pud dle+Pull&dispsize=512&start=12

You can read more about what Puddle Pull is on our website, mudeltau.org. There is a link to info in the navigation menu.

Brian

[This message has been edited by BrianMUDU (edited June 03, 2001).]

Leslie Anne 06-03-2001 09:45 PM

Hey Brian~

Thanks for the links! I love hearing about different traditions chapters have. Your Puddle Pull is a lot more complicated than it looks in the photos.
And you are such a cutie! (I can say that because I'm probably old enough to be your mother.) http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

BrianMUDU 06-03-2001 10:13 PM

Oh mom! ::blush::

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

shadokat 06-04-2001 01:53 PM

I concur with Leslie, although I don't think I'm old enough to be your mom. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Looks like you all are pretty intense about the pull http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

PenguinTrax 06-04-2001 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by localsororities:
Are there any non-secret sororities?



To the best of my knowledge there are no non-secret sororities.

Barbara

BrianMUDU 06-04-2001 02:19 PM

shadokat,

we are VERY intense! Since Puddle Pull is ours, we take a lot of pride in it because everyone wants to win it. It is probably one of the most popular greek events, and is a big tradition at Miami University. Ask any greek and they will know what it is. So yes, we take it very seriously and practice for about 3 weeks before the actual event. It's a good time, something I'll always remember.

Brian

coronaduck 06-08-2001 11:47 AM

To my knowledge there is only one more national non-secret fraternity. I don't remember the name, but I know it was one of the first fraternities founded in California (as opposed to the East Coast).

But to add a personal note, one of the reasons I decided to pledge DU was of the non-secrecy. I liked the idea that we don't have to hide everything we do and that we can invite friends and family to our initiations. Very cool.

I heard about the Puddle Pull, and I'm pretty sure almost every DU chapter has a big event that's "ours". For instance Houston's Push Ball is one I can think of.

sigmagrrl 06-08-2001 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SH80:
Is DU co-ed? I saw a picture on one of the websites with girls in it.
It looks like they were doing their event with the sisters of Gamma Phi Beta if I read the shirts correctly...

sigmagrrl 06-08-2001 03:47 PM

I find this very fascinating and admirable indeed. Very tasteful. Just because it is non secretive doesn't in any way denote a lack of pride and respect for the ritual. Bravo to Delta Upsilon!

SH80 06-09-2001 12:13 AM

Is DU co-ed? I saw a picture on one of the websites with girls in it.


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