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DrPhil

08-21-2014 10:06 PM

The "Black" White Musicians

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Originally Posted by Article

I hope that by the time this article posts it no longer applies. But as of its writing, the following is a small list of musicians who have yet to make a public statement or acknowledgement of Michael Brown's murder and the racial epicenter that is Ferguson, Missouri. In no particular order, they are: Justin Bieber, Macklemore, Iggy Azaela, Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus.

I could name plenty of other entertainers and celebrities who have remained silent. However, I chose the above five for a very specific reason; they are what I like to call "Black" White Musicians. They are entertainers who have been inspired by some facet of Black culture and whether through authentic means or appropriation have gone on to repackage it for the masses under their own guise.

What I'm speaking to both includes and goes beyond mere speech and dress. They don't just have Black friends or participate in the Black rhetoric. But they seek to replicate it, embody it, and occasionally even elevate it. Many times this occurs without the subtlety, nuance or even confidence that's needed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/malek-...b_5685968.html

*******
This article says what has been said for generations. Same general point, different specifics.

WHO DAT, WHO DAT, HOW U DO DAT DO DAT?!
~ Me mocking Iggy Azaela's "butt implant rap voice". Her ghostwriters are laughing to the bank

33girl

08-21-2014 11:38 PM

This article is stupid as heck. Justin Bieber is barely a human let alone a musician, Katy Perry is on about her 5th image in 5 years, Iggy Azalea is pretty much a known racist and since when is Kim Kardashian black? By injection?

I see the point, don't get me wrong, but for the most part she's talking about people who really don't have a high level of respect among the public in general, black or white.

ASTalumna06

08-22-2014 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2287184)

This.

Regardless of your race or economic status, I don't feel that anyone is obligated to support any cause. And quite frankly, I don't care what Justin Beiber has to say.. about anything. He's nothing more than a spoiled rich kid, who has parents that don't know how to parent. It makes me sad that girls love him and people look at him like he should have something important to say.

There are a lot of people I respect, but he isn't one of them. I could go on about the other celebrities listed, but I feel I've made my point.

DrPhil

08-22-2014 08:12 AM

I'm not interested in celebs speaking out about Ferguson. Celebs aren't obligated to speak out about incidents. There is a larger trend that the author is addressing. Ignore the specific artists mentioned and see the trend over the past 50 or so years.

The writer is correct that there are and always have been white celebs (regardless of talent or lack thereof) who adopt or perhaps mock the more stereotypical aspects of Black culture; and then these white celebs disappear to their Ivory Tower when it isn't about making money.

That has happened for generations when older white artists were mimicking Blacks or making money from Black audiences but when any type of social issue comes about (even before the Civil Rights Movement) these artists conveniently remembered their whiteness.

33girl

08-22-2014 12:29 PM

She's absolutely correct in that aspect. But when she chooses celebs that are such lightning rods for assery, just to get more views (i.e. way more people are going to read an article on Justin Bieber than on Bobby Caldwell) she waters down her point.

PersistentDST

08-22-2014 04:29 PM

I get what she is saying. On one end I disagree. I wish we would stop caring about what celebs support or do not support. It is their choice. The celebs that want to support are helping spread awareness and are even at Ferguson (JCole, Talib Kweli, John Legend, Jesse Williams, etc). Those who have nothing to say can continue to do so.

BUT...

then there's this point...

and I feel like...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...tuyoy4kube.png

Oh nevermind. That's America for ya! :rolleyes:

honeychile

08-22-2014 04:43 PM

Any American musician who claims NOT to be influenced by Black musicians probably isn't worth listening to.

KSUViolet06

08-22-2014 10:42 PM

One day, Iggy's Black girl voice is going to skip like Milli Vanilli.

She'll be like the villains on Scooby Doo like "and I would have got away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling Black people."

You heard it here first.

DrPhil

08-22-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PersistentDST (Post 2287291)

I really dislike that photo. They had the audacity.

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2287335)

Message!!!

KSUViolet06

08-22-2014 10:50 PM

Sidenote:

Is my husband Justin Timberlake included in this discussion?

Can we draft him like the skit from Dave Chappelle?

DrPhil

08-22-2014 11:34 PM

Speaking of Bobby Caldwell, so many Black people didn't know he is white until the Soul Train Music Awards. He's been smooth for 37 years.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton...white?s=mobile

PersistentDST

08-23-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2287338)

I really dislike that photo. They had the audacity.

Yes, it's actually part of a music video. Good ole Katy...

DrPhil

08-23-2014 03:49 PM

I like Katy Perry. I appreciate her talent and her "many looks". There is a thin, difficult line between "many looks"/celebrating other identities and mockery.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1884746/katy...-brooke-candy/

PersistentDST

08-23-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2287474)

Exactly...there's style and influence and there is wearing someone's race/ethnicity as a "costume."

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