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ASTalumna06 03-06-2014 04:55 PM

Indiana University - NPC predictions
 
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2264261)
Indiana University has voted for further expansion.

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2264299)
To fuel the speculation/hysteria, the only NPCs not already on campus are:

Sigma Kappa (Tau chapter 1918-1994)
Sigma Sigma Sigma (Epsilon Xi chapter 1989-1994)
Phi Sigma Sigma
Alpha Sigma Tau

Let's start the insanity!

- Do you think all 4 groups will want to colonize?

- There have been 3 new colonies/chapters added in the last 3 years. Do you think there will be a stacked expansion?

- What will happen first: All 26 NPCs have chapters at IU, or IU changes its recruitment system/format?

- Do you think having more unhoused chapters will help those chapters during recruitment, or will it separate them further from the housed chapters in PNMs' minds?

Discuss!

LaneSig 03-06-2014 05:35 PM

I don't know if the 4 groups not currently on campus will colonize, but I do know that the Greek Life director/office has stated that they would like all 26 NPC organizations on campus by 2020 (or 2024 at the latest).

33girl 03-06-2014 06:13 PM

I think that the more unhoused groups come on without CONCRETE housing plans with a CONCRETE date, the more 2 separate Greek systems will take shape (that includes the unhoused/not housed on campus land fraternities). As it is now, a girl with max pref options could consist of all unhoused groups and lots of rushees will not like that.

AOII Angel 03-06-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2264467)
I think that the more unhoused groups come on without CONCRETE housing plans with a CONCRETE date, the more 2 separate Greek systems will take shape (that includes the unhoused/not housed on campus land fraternities). As it is now, a girl with max pref options could consist of all unhoused groups and lots of rushees will not like that.

I completely agree, and I don't think the other groups will necessarily have any interest in being a part of that.

Xidelt 03-06-2014 07:49 PM

The problems at Indiana are entirely of their making. Let them solve it on their own. Don't expect other NPC groups to come on campus and fix it for you.

Tridentia 03-06-2014 08:21 PM

Why does the house make an experience? With the addition of D Phi E, Alpha Sigma Alpha, and Theta Phi Alpha colonizing with good numbers and being able to have similar sized new member classes, they seem to be doing fine owning the fact that they are unhoused. I am sure if the remaining 4 groups are OK colonizing at Indiana without a house, they too will be successful in their own right. Who is everyone to judge their experience without a house?

Even with the addition of 4 more unhoused chapters, unless Indiana makes the change to Quota / Total, too many women will still be without a house. AND I am sure many women would rather be in a SORORITY at IU than not.

sigmagirl2000 03-06-2014 09:20 PM

Do the current unhoused groups have concrete plans for housing in the near future?

33girl 03-06-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tridentia (Post 2264483)
Why does the house make an experience? With the addition of D Phi E, Alpha Sigma Alpha, and Theta Phi Alpha colonizing with good numbers and being able to have similar sized new member classes, they seem to be doing fine owning the fact that they are unhoused. I am sure if the remaining 4 groups are OK colonizing at Indiana without a house, they too will be successful in their own right. Who is everyone to judge their experience without a house?

Even with the addition of 4 more unhoused chapters, unless Indiana makes the change to Quota / Total, too many women will still be without a house. AND I am sure many women would rather be in a SORORITY at IU than not.

Are you familiar with the situation concerning bed rush at IU? Have you read the previous IU threads?

I'm hoping that the times have changed enough at IU that our experience will be different than it was in the 1990s. However, even if they get rid of bed quota, not having a house on a campus where most of the groups have large and beautiful houses is usually not a point in a group's favor.

DubaiSis 03-07-2014 01:06 AM

All 26 will be represented before IU changes from bed rush BUT chapters will slowly start going over their totals by a few each year. "We're not changing the rules, but we ARE going to let 5 seniors (or some other ridiculously small number) live out. And inevitably when it turns out the sky doesn't fall because of 5 seniors living out, it will move to 10, to 20 to the majority of seniors living out.

I personally think there is a place for unhoused chapters as a counterpoint to the uber-exclusion of the chapter houses now and they will continue to succeed, providing they maintain high standards and keep a very visible social profile. But in the next 10 years, one could fail and people will see it as a sign that it was NEVER going to work. But then the sun will rise again and the other unhoused chapters will be just fine. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. You can't expect all this growth and have 100% success.

DeltaBetaBaby 03-07-2014 01:57 AM

I thought one of the groups not at IU already turned down a chance to colonize there. Just because the school wants all 26 doesn't mean it is calling all of the shots.

irishpipes 03-07-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2264535)
I thought one of the groups not at IU already turned down a chance to colonize there. Just because the school wants all 26 doesn't mean it is calling all of the shots.

Yes, at least 1 has said no recently.

33girl 03-07-2014 10:45 AM

And another (I assume we're talking of 2 different ones) has stated they will not even present unless they have a guarantee of a house.

ForeverRoses 03-07-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2264575)
And another (I assume we're talking of 2 different ones) has stated they will not even present unless they have a guarantee of a house.

Define "house". Are we talking comperable housing to the current houses groups, dorm wings, or townhouses?

33girl 03-07-2014 01:53 PM

I'm pretty sure they said comparable on campus house.

oliviaosentoski 03-08-2014 03:38 PM

I hope the last 4 wait and this makes the school fix the issues they are having first. Yes it would be nice to have all 26 on one campus but I think we in to do it in a way that it is going to be successful and last.


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