Knights in Shining Armor ...
 

... Get rusty and dull. Hang it up. Its over. Chivalry might not be dead, but it might as well be. Try to be nice and what happens? This...Okay. I'm at a party and i'm looking for my friend so I can talk to him and the girls we met earlier. Its crowded and I start trying to make my way through. This one guy says "whats up." Then he grabs this girl and starts bumping and grinding on her. Not really dancing he looked like a horny dog humping somebody's leg. I can tell by the look on her face (she looked at me, like "WTF?") that she wasn't at all into it. So i put my arm between them and kind of push the guy off. NOt hard. NOt like a "I heard you were talking smack, what are you gonna do, leading up to a fight" kind of push, just a gentle, but firm, push to guide him out of the way. He tried pushing back with his body closer to her (probably too drunk to notice what i was doing) so i look at her and she looks like she wants me to do something, so i push him again the same way, only harder this time and say, "hey buddy, i'm trying to hook up" He said alright and walked of. I start TALKING to her. Not DANCING or GRIDING on her. I was TALKING. I asked if that guy was bothering her and she said "not anymore." Two lines into the conversation after that, her friend grabs her arm and pulls her away from me. WTF???!!! Where was she like, half a minute earlier when the girl was getting dry humped?? She was dancing with some guys. Two, in a sandwich. And she can't let her friend TALK to the guy that got mr. happy crotch to stop compulating with her leg. I swear, you try to do the right thing, and it ends up biting you in the ass. So thats it, I gues I read the facial expressions wrong. Maybe she wasn't disconcerted by the situation. Maybe that guy gave her an orgasam right there in a sweaty, smoky basement. So I quit. Next time I see that, I"m just going to ingore it, because apparently the odds are better that her freaky ass is getting off more than the moron bothering her. So here lies chivalry. It dies with me.

oh yeah i forgot...later that same night I'm danicg with a different girl and get her to right her number on my arm, and a different girl who is this girl's friend (i think they were in the same group) kept saying different numbers. Needless to say that when i called the next day it was the "uh...wrong number" response.

If that had happened to me, I would probably buy you a beer to say THANK YOU!!! I'm sorry she's a twerp!

As for 2nd girl, her loss...

ok i think the ONLY thing she could have been uncool about is that you pushed another guy off of her and told him excuse me but im trying to hook up. there is a chance she was mad bc he was hitting on her, and then hearing that she could have thought "oh no, *another* guy trying to hook up with me"

personally i think what you did was awesome...i would have had a drink with you and thanked you a million times for getting rid of that jerk for me. as for girls giving you the wrong numbers...they sound like morons who dont know a good thing when they meet him.

Damn Billy, I had a good laugh over that. A better way to think about it is that people are kind of out for themselves. So yeah, you helped her get away from a guy she didn't want to dance with but . . . so what. She got what she wanted and now she gets to move on to the next thing she wants. I am not saying that people are selfish, its just we all do things based on our own motives and desires. Also, expressions of gratitude or even simple courtesy are not over developed in our culture. But hey, play the percentages and keep trying.

You were the perfect gentlemen and i wouldnt worry about it if i were you.
Honestly, if a friend is involved, sometimes its not the girl whom you want to talk to's fault.
Example: My friends and i were at a club and some guy can up behind me and started dancing with me. Now i didnt mind, but before i had a chance to say anything, I wasa being whisked away b/c they thought I didnt like it. Needless to say they got an ear full cuz they had done it 2x already. Everytime some guy came up to us we moved :rolleyes:
Its all b/c of the "Waffle House" (as my sorority called it) system. Most of the time, we want our friends to help us out of the jam, but there are rare times when we dont want :) (Sometimes are friends think they know what we do and dont like too :p)

Ok...i think Im starting to understand it a little. I don't think I'm an optimist anymore. :(

nooooo be an Optimist!!! its not you, its them (seriously)

Op.Prime, that so sucks that happened to you though. But please don't give up on the Chivilary, I think it's great that there are still guys out there that do that inda stuff and step in when they think a lady's in trouble. I mean don't get me wrong, I am the first to step to my own battles, but it's always nice to have a "knight in shinning armor" help out everyonce in awhile.
I mean not everyone appreciates common acts of kindness like that, and really they luck out everytime! SO keep some faith, and still just be your self :D
DGP~Honey~

I agree with james billy. you get that in a group party atmosphere. It happens. Just be who you are. Be courteous and do the right thing for the ladies it will eventually work out. Just be patient. :)

Dont change the way you are because of someone elses flaw...
Hell, I would have become an asshole a long time ago if I did that.... Those of us that have a conscience and dont act like dicks all the time are becoming rare....

Now get out the polish and get that armor back in working condition!

Any lady worth her salt would have recognized the very kind thing you did! Please don't let a few ill-mannered girls spoil you on the rest of us...who DO appreciate your chivalry a lot!

Knight in shining armor...get back on that horse you rode in on. :)

billy-

don't give up. there are still plenty of us girls out there who would completely appreciate what you did. she sounds like a jerk.

Okay. :D you guys rock.

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Sheez ladies, for over a year now Billy has described the way he approaches girls, asked you for advice, and has consistently not gotten what he wants.

And just about all of you have pat him on the head and said, poor Billy, its ok, stay the way you are, and its everyone else's fault but yours. They should be working to throw off their social conditioning (which we all share) just so they can start to recongnize YOUR individual specialness. And most of you have also implied that if he keeps doing what he is doing, that the world WILL change for him and a bunch of girls will fall madly in love with him. Or that one special girl (whatever the hell that means).

Well he has gamely followed your advice for a year, and guess what, its not working. So why not really help him out and give him some real strategies to pick up these women.

Disclaimer. I know some of you have given a different perspective.

I am sure you all would appreciate a gentleman, you just probably wouldn't date one. Which might be because their friends are giving them bad advice on how to relate to girls.