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Badges on eBay are bad. They are a symbol of your ritual. But if someone is not a member, they won't know the meaning of it. That is bad. But what I think is even worse is that there is now a ritual on there. I believe the fraternity is defunct but still!! That is just plain disrepectful to read that if you are not a member. The only exposure I've had to any other ritual was when i found my grandfather's mason bible. AS soon as I read the words "below is the ritual of.." i realized what I had and put it down. I would like to read it some day, but only if I become a Mason.

Billy, are you refering to the Ritual of TKE? If so, they are one of the largest Internationals of NIC.

There is a TKE ritual book for sale from the 1950s on ebay. The seller claims that he inherited the book and will not sell it to anyone but a TKE brother.

If he were that charitable, he would send it to TKE HQ...how will he know if the buyer is a TKE..ask him to recite the vow, etc.?:(

You have GOT to be kidding me. Ritual books on ebay?? :eek: Badges are bad enough!!

I would love to know how he got ahold of the ritual book. I thought that the local chapter owns it and if the organization becomes defunct, the book goes back to nationals. I always assumed that was the case.

it is not only distressing to me that he is selling it, but that he has it in his possession at all. i'm assuming he has read it since he listed the contents. reassuringly all of our REAL secrets are only passed on by word of mouth. so anyone reading it wouldn't really know what they are reading about. i'm still pretty pissed though. i wopnder how anyone would be able to get a hold of that, nationals usually keeps tight tabs on ritual equipment.

I am not surprised at all that the TKE ritual is on ebay, afterall, they have like 700 chapters, which means theres like 7,000 TKE ritual books out there. I would be more surprised to see a Delta Phi, Sigma Phi, Alpha Delta Phi or Psi Upsilon book on there....there is a lot less of them. Also, an ATO ritual book was just on ebay last week and a Beta ritual book sold on ebay for over $1200 last year, so like I said, in this day and age, it doesn't surprise me at all.....and we can all thank Al Gore for inventing the info-net.

Oh yeah, the word of mouth thing is true, but trust me when I say there are straight up morons who write the secrets in the books.

No. Actully I was refering to a group called Alpha Phi (not THE Alpha Phi). A copy of their magazine/ ritual book was open describing the ritual, had some lines that are parts of it to be spoken, and showed diagrams of their hand shake. I already posted about that in the APhi forum and they said it was not theirs. But still...that is beyond horrible.

Links are gone.

Yes he is a moron. Ronald is a TKE and none of that stuff he is selling is TKE stuff. Have no idea why he thinks Ronald Regan in a ATO.

The guy said he inherited it from someone when they passed, but he wasnt a TKE either.... so who nows how he got it.... He said he was going to ask a question only a TKE would know for verification.

I bet somewhere in time someone stole the darn book :p

Just wonderin why he'd ask a question only a TKE would know, when its an ATO book? Now officially, hes a moron.

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