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pas 08-09-2013 05:53 PM

Unofficial Badges
 
Has anyone ever had a badge made at an unofficial jewelers?

My sororities only have a couple options. One is only pearls and the other is chased or pearls. But I am wondering if anyone has any experience getting a badge made with different stones at an unofficial jewelers. Obviously the official jeweler is HJGreeks and I have no clue if they would make a badge that went against the norms of what is officially recognized by the sororities.

Psi U MC Vito 08-09-2013 06:00 PM

Um. I would check with your I/HQ first. There might be very specific reasons only pearls are allowed on the badge.

33girl 08-09-2013 09:16 PM

Why would you even want to think about an unofficial badge?

pas 08-09-2013 09:48 PM

33girl--I am seriously just curious if anyone on here had ever done it before. My grandmother did so I am just curious if anyone else has. Her sorority also only allowed pearls but she added rubies. But times have changed and the sorority's official jeweler became HJ Greeks.

MysticCat 08-09-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2230081)
Um. I would check with your I/HQ first. There might be very specific reasons only pearls are allowed on the badge.

There also may be trademark/licensing issues. Not to mention the fact that if a GLO has established an official design, and that official design inludes specifications as to jewels, then an unofficial badge that uses different jewels isn't really a badge of that GLO anymore.

pas 08-09-2013 10:05 PM

So my grandmother's badge is no longer official...ah. That is what I was trying to get at I suppose.

thetalady 08-09-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pas (Post 2230112)
So my grandmother's badge is no longer official...ah. That is what I was trying to get at I suppose.

I don;t think that is what they were saying at all. Your grandmother's badge preceeded any regulations put into place by her GLO; therefore, those regs surely would not apply retroactively.

amIblue? 08-09-2013 10:58 PM

Perhaps a better descriptor for your grandmother's badge would be vintage.

DubaiSis 08-10-2013 02:42 AM

You might say it was "grandmothered" in. HA!

Titchou 08-10-2013 09:13 AM

If it was "official" when it was made, it is still official - for that particular badge. The descendants of our founders are typically initiated with a badge their relative wore. We send them from our archives for that purpose. But I wouldn't want to change MY badge to look like another that was no longer made.

MysticCat 08-10-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2230139)
If it was "official" when it was made, it is still official - for that particular badge.

Exactly. But if it's not allowed now, it wouldn't be official if made now.

DGTess 08-10-2013 10:08 AM

Many organizations can point to the specific time their badge designs were standardized. The ones you see that were made before that time will be all kinds of different; to some eyes nicer, to others not as nice.

Surely you could take a badge to a jeweler and have stones replaced with different stones, but IMHO that badge no longer represents the organization.

NutBrnHair 08-10-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pas (Post 2230107)
...My grandmother did so I am just curious if anyone else has. Her sorority also only allowed pearls but she added rubies. But times have changed and the sorority's official jeweler became HJ Greeks.

I think it depends on when/how your grandmother "did" it. Did she order rubies added to her badge originally or years after, did she take it to her hometown jeweler and have it changed?

pbear19 08-10-2013 04:56 PM

Years after Gamma Phi designated official jewelers, but still many decades ago, women in my area still had local jewelers who made their badges. Every now and again we'll see one that has been passed down, or is worn by a 75 or 50 year member at Founders Day. I am 100% on board with the fact that this isn't allowed anymore (and technically wasn't then), but I must admit that those badges are stunning.

pas 08-10-2013 06:25 PM

My grandmother's badge was made by a local jeweler. She never had any other. So if a member were to come up to her, or if she wanted to get into convention, she would be okay? But how would her sisters know it was made that way previously? Would they just have to trust her word?


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