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moe.ron 06-20-2012 11:30 PM

Maryland Boy Learns Lesson With "Homeless" Sign Punishment
 
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A man in Waldorf, Md., hopes a bit of public embarrassment will teach his son a lesson about respect.

Kevin Burks said his 12-year-old son Kenny didn't call home this past weekend when he wanted to spend the night at a friend's house.

"All he has to do is check in at 8:30," said Burks. But after Kenny didn't call until about 9 p.m. and another friend actually called to say Kenny was spending the night, Burks told his son to come home.

To teach his son a lesson, Burks had him spend Monday walking up and down the street with a sign that read "Homeless, Won't Listen to Parents."
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...159492545.html

Awesomeness

TonyB06 06-21-2012 08:51 AM

I think it's terrible that people resort to doing this kind of foolishness to their children in the name of "teaching them a lesson."

DrPhil 06-21-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyB06 (Post 2153998)
I think it's terrible that people resort to doing this kind of foolishness to their children in the name of "teaching them a lesson."

I agree. These parents are attention whores who want their public "lessons" to be showcased on facebook, youtube, Greekchat (:p), Good Morning America, etc.

A better lesson is to have your child volunteer at a homeless shelter and meet homeless children. That is if homelessness is truly the lesson. Perhaps being made to come home and not get to visit a friend's house for a few months is a more immediate and logical lesson for this "offense".

MysticCat 06-21-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2154000)
I agree. These parents are attention whores who want their public "lessons" to be showcased on facebook, youtube, Greekchat (:p), Good Morning America, etc.

A better lesson is to have your child volunteer at a homeless shelter and meet homeless children. That is if homelessness is truly the lesson. Perhaps being made to come home and not get to visit a friend's house for a few months is a more immediate and logical lesson for this "offense".

I agree as well. Terrible parenting in my view.

We've always taken the view that the punishment should fit the crime. The "crime" is failing to check in. Grounding seems to fit much better for that. Meanwhile Dad says he wants to teach respect. I fail to see how public embarrassment teaches respect.

AlphaFrog 06-21-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2154000)
I agree. These parents are attention whores who want their public "lessons" to be showcased on facebook, youtube, Greekchat (:p), Good Morning America, etc.

A better lesson is to have your child volunteer at a homeless shelter and meet homeless children. That is if homelessness is truly the lesson. Perhaps being made to come home and not get to visit a friend's house for a few months is a more immediate and logical lesson for this "offense".

All of this. He's actually making light of homelessness, which is the OPPOSITE of what he says he's doing.

Munchkin03 06-21-2012 10:32 AM

If you see the comments, the father has chimed in. He misquotes Bernie Mac, uses all sorts of cliches, and doesn't know the difference between "know" and "no." Not only did he have a great big parenting FAIL, he sounds like a blooming idiot.

I liked his explanation as to why he just didn't ground the kid/take away his electronics: after all the time it would take to remove the TV, Playstation, etc., and ground him for a week, it wouldn't be worth it. What does this kid have, a man cave?:confused:

AGDee 06-21-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2154006)
I agree as well. Terrible parenting in my view.

We've always taken the view that the punishment should fit the crime. The "crime" is failing to check in. Grounding seems to fit much better for that. Meanwhile Dad says he wants to teach respect. I fail to see how public embarrassment teaches respect.

I agree.


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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2154013)
If you see the comments, the father has chimed in. He misquotes Bernie Mac, uses all sorts of cliches, and doesn't know the difference between "know" and "no." Not only did he have a great big parenting FAIL, he sounds like a blooming idiot.

I liked his explanation as to why he just didn't ground the kid/take away his electronics: after all the time it would take to remove the TV, Playstation, etc., and ground him for a week, it wouldn't be worth it. What does this kid have, a man cave?:confused:

Meh, my kids have that stuff too and most kids that age have that stuff now. My coworker was smart with this stuff. She just took all the power cords to things when she was grounding her kids. You don't have to move everything out, you just have to make them not function. When her kids were doing things on the Internet when grounded, she took the power cord to the cable modem to work with her. Problem solved.

ZTAOnlytheBest 06-22-2012 12:33 AM

I just have to say that I think it's absolutely ridiculous for kids that age to have all that stuff. This is why kids can't entertain themselves for five minutes anymore.

AGDee 06-22-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTAOnlytheBest (Post 2154188)
I just have to say that I think it's absolutely ridiculous for kids that age to have all that stuff. This is why kids can't entertain themselves for five minutes anymore.

I don't think it is any more ridiculous than having board games, a bike, etc. A gaming system is just another toy. It obviously isn't keeping this kid from socializing with friends since he got in trouble for not calling home when he should have. He's not 3 or 6 or 9.. he's 12. He's kind of beyond the time of green army men and tonka trucks. There really aren't a lot of indoor activities for kids that age.

ZTAOnlytheBest 06-22-2012 12:38 PM

Hm well I guess I just have different expectations of kids that age range. And while I can see the similarities to Board games, saying its like having a bike is quite a stretch.

Munchkin03 06-22-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2154150)

Meh, my kids have that stuff too and most kids that age have that stuff now. My coworker was smart with this stuff. She just took all the power cords to things when she was grounding her kids. You don't have to move everything out, you just have to make them not function. When her kids were doing things on the Internet when grounded, she took the power cord to the cable modem to work with her. Problem solved.

Whether kids today have that stuff isn't the issue. My issue is that he thought actually taking it away, or even disconnecting the stuff, was too much of an inconvenience. Publicly humiliating his son, however, was more convenient.

How long would it take to disconnect the games/computers and put them away? An hour?

33girl 06-22-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2154434)
Whether kids today have that stuff isn't the issue. My issue is that he thought actually taking it away, or even disconnecting the stuff, was too much of an inconvenience. Publicly humiliating his son, however, was more convenient.

How long would it take to disconnect the games/computers and put them away? An hour?

It takes longer if you are stupid.

AGDee 06-23-2012 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2154434)
Whether kids today have that stuff isn't the issue. My issue is that he thought actually taking it away, or even disconnecting the stuff, was too much of an inconvenience. Publicly humiliating his son, however, was more convenient.

How long would it take to disconnect the games/computers and put them away? An hour?

I was in agreement with you on that part and was pointing out that all you really have to take away are the power cords. You don't have to physically remove anything else. You just have to make it useless.

christiangirl 06-23-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 2154434)
How long would it take to disconnect the games/computers and put them away? An hour?

When the kid I was sitting for threw a fit over the Xbox, it took me approx. 20 seconds to unplug it and put it away. Doing what Dee said and taking the power cord would have been about 5.
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2154000)
A better lesson is to have your child volunteer at a homeless shelter and meet homeless children.

I've heard of this being done in a few different instances and, in each one, the teens learned nothing. I find that kids can be pretty short-sighted. Honestly, sacrifice has to be freely given for it to mean anything. If it's done by force, the message is totally lost in a lot of cases.

ZTAOnlytheBest 06-23-2012 04:45 AM

I just wanted to add that I think volunteering used as punishment is a bad idea. Then it teaches the kid that it's only punishment, not something they should willingly do. Or at least it seems to me that it would. I've never experienced it so I can't really say.


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