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Help! I Keep Getting Contradicting Information at my School
Hi,
I was told if nobody put on my pref card offered me a bid, I would still be elligible for COB, and informal, and theat the 1 year rule doesn't apply because I would have been cut. (I was told ths by Rho alpha's, persons helping work the computer lab the selection process took place in, the person who spoke to me when I signed my pref card, and the lady in charge of recruitment). Now I have recieved a reply from my schools VP of recruitment saying that, NOPE, not allowed to be involved in COB, or informal (and they are the same thing... I thought they were different but I guess not?). She suggested that I wait until next year and try again as a junior (from reading this site, I believe that this is frowned upon...) I thought (and was told) the rule was that if I was offered a bid and turned it down, then the one year rule would apply. Now I am also being told that even if I was not offered a bid and was cut (I didn't want to be cut!!) the rule still applies. Which is true? :confused: |
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You are eligible for COB/informal as long as you NEVER got a bid. If you signed a pref card, got a bid, and decided to decline it, you may not participate. If you signed a pref card, got a bid, pledged that chapter, then depledged, you may not participate. As far as I know (and this is as someone who volunteers with chapters and deals with recruitment frquently) you are eligible unless one of those 2 things occured. |
Okay thank you!! neither of those two situations occured, and I did not recieve a bid.
Is there a formal online manual/website with that statement on it? Actually, any suggestions on how to bring this up to the greeklife office for a second time if it is the case that I should have been elligible for informal (now I'm being told all quota's are filled, but people are still getting contacted about informal recruitment events... once again super confusing)? Quote:
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The manual itself is only available for purchase (it's a little pricey), but the sections which apply to PNMs are readily available on the NPC's website:
http://npcwomen.org/undergrads/standards-policies.aspx A signed Membership Recruitment Acceptance or a Continuous Open Bidding (COB) Acceptance is binding. If a potential member receives a bid under the preference system, she is ineligible to be pledged to any other NPC fraternity on the same campus for one calendar year. If a potential member does not receive a bid under the preference system, she is eligible for COB. (4) A woman who has had her pledge broken by an NPC fraternity, or who has broken her pledge to an NPC fraternity, may not be asked to join another NPC fraternity on that campus for one calendar year from the date she was originally pledged. However, she may be repledged by the same NPC fraternity chapter at any time within that calendar year. (6) |
thank you again!!
also does it say anywhere in the MRABA specifically that signing a pref card (not a bid) would make someone inelligible for informal/COB? |
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By signing this acceptance agreement, I understand and agree to the following terms. Please read and initial each of the following: I am willing to accept an invitation to membership from any women’s sorority (fraternity) that I list on this agreement. I may limit my choices to just one OR list any women’s sorority (fraternity) whose preference-round (last) event I attended, and from which I am willing to accept membership. I realize that by not listing the maximum number of events I attended, I may be limiting my potential to join any other NPC group during formal recruitment should I not be placed with my choice(s). Once I submit this agreement to the College Panhellenic Association, I cannot change the order of my preferences or add or delete a preference. If I do not receive an invitation to membership from a group that I have listed, I am eligible for continuous open bidding. I have the option of not submitting an agreement at this time. Once I submit this agreement, I am bound by the National Panhellenic Conference one-calendar year rule. This rule states that if I receive an invitation to membership from a group that I have listed and then do not accept it, I am not eligible to be pledged to any other NPC member sorority (fraternity) on this campus for one calendar year (12 month period) from the time of this signing. Signature __________________________________________________ ____________ By signing this form you are agreeing to accept a bid from any of the women’s sororities you list below and if offered, you are bound to that bid for one calendar year. |
I said it in your other thread (in so many words) and I'll say it again. Your school is whack and needs to make a purchase from the Clue Store.
You might want to ask the Greek Life director or the VP of recruitment (I assume that's a Panhel office) to contact their CPH Area Advisor (you can find your school at the link below) and get their act together. http://www.npcwomen.org/college-panh.../advisors.aspx This kind of thing would be understandable at a school that just went from locals to nationals, or one with a Greek system that just started doing formal rush. Since judging by what you said, your school is neither of these things, it's pretty inexcusable in my book. |
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However, if you aren't matched to any of the sororities you write on the pref card, you are free and clear. Have you heard of anyone else at your school having these issues or being surprised with what they got (sororities or rushees)? I'm not doubting you in the least, I'm just curious if they don't know what to do for you because your situation is highly irregular, or if it's the Wild Wild West there and they do whatever they feel like doing. |
Hahaha. Thank you! my school is very large and has been doing formal recruitment for a while, so I really dont know why so many things are up in the air.
They really do not explain the process well at all, and is was a bit unorganized. A lot was glossed over... I had never even heard of recs before I came to this site! (Maybe if I knew these things beforehand I may have gotten a different outcome) I'm just frusturated because I wanted to do informal rush, but because of this mistake was left out, and now apparently the quotas are all filled. (again, I asked for the quota's be wan't really given detailed information). Quote:
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It does happen that you think you hit it off with a chapter and get cut. That's not unique to your school. Chapters make their own decisions. Also, as far as getting bids to your 3rd choice, that can happen anywhere too. I think the issue is that some schools don't spend enough time telling PNMs EXACTLY what it means to sign that final card. Anytime you pref 3 chapters and list them all on that final card, you're saying that you are willing to accept a bid from any of those 3. . I think schools tend to gloss over this part and kind of say "you have to put all 3 down, but don't worry, no one ever gets their 3rd choice." That's just not true. You could receive a bid from ANY one of them. Even your 3rd. Also, I think that is why a lot of schools are switching to 2 party prefs (instead of 3) because they find that (in general) PNMs feel okay with getting a bid from their second choice. More often than not, they really aren't interested in that 3rd choice (and wouldn't take a bid from them), but put it down because a Rho Chi says they "have to or they won't get a bid." Also false. |
^^^This last paragraph. Read what happened at Arizona State University in Irishpipes thread when they went from 2 to 3 preference parties with disastrous results. 5 of the 11 Chapters did not make quota and a 1/3 of the women SIP'd.
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You could argue that a woman who would make the cut in a 3 party format but not a 2 party format for a chapter probably wouldn't get a bid anyway, but a chapter can arrange the bid list however they want. She could wow a chapter at pref and move to the first list. |
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