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DaemonSeid 02-07-2011 01:51 PM
Sudan to split into 2 nations
 
Ok...so no one really talked about Egypt, but it looks like Sudan is splitting into two nations effective in July

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/l...stream2&hpt=T1

Muslims to the North and Christians to the south. it''s going to be interesting to see how in less than 6 months how they will go about dividing oil reserves, new currencies, and immigration policies.

Animate 02-07-2011 02:01 PM
Joy!

/end sarcasm

MysticCat 02-07-2011 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 2027687)
Ok...so no one really talked about Egypt, but it looks like Sudan is splitting into two nations effective in July

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/l...stream2&hpt=T1

Muslims to the North and Christians to the south. it''s going to be interesting to see how in less than 6 months how they will go about dividing oil reserves, new currencies, and immigration policies.
This has been in the works for a while. The only thing new is that it's official.

BluPhire 02-07-2011 04:19 PM
This really hurts my heart.

Elephant Walk 02-07-2011 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 2027726)
This really hurts my heart.
Why?

NinjaPoodle 02-07-2011 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 2027687)
Ok...so no one really talked about Egypt, but it looks like Sudan is splitting into two nations effective in July

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/l...stream2&hpt=T1

Muslims to the North and Christians to the south. it''s going to be interesting to see how in less than 6 months how they will go about dividing oil reserves, new currencies, and immigration policies.
Since that link isn't working anymore, here is one from cnn about the split
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa...ex.html?hpt=T2

NinjaPoodle 02-07-2011 05:07 PM
From the article:
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Those in the north had more varied opinions.
"I think it is better," said Abd al-Aziz Ahmad, 30, a grocery store owner. "They can have their own country and our problem in the north will lessen."
Northerner Al-Razy Yassin, 27, however, said he felt very sad about the outcome.
"I believed that our strength is in our diversity," he said. "This means the failure of the Sudanese national state and I fear what might come."
There were tears on the face of Ikhlas Garang, a woman who is half northern and half southern, who cried, "Why are we separating? Why are we separating?"
Sudan's north and south fought a war for more than two decades, finally ending in a peace treaty in 2005 that paved the way for the referendum. The conflict, which left 2 million people dead, pitted a government dominated by Arab Muslims in northern Sudan against black Christians and animists in the south.

Drolefille 02-07-2011 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2027697)
This has been in the works for a while. The only thing new is that it's official.
Right. I was listening to NPR talk about how the Sudanese seem to blame the British for creating "Sudan" out of two* peoples who had nothing in common. Essentially immediately after gaining their independence they had a civil war. For seventeen YEARS. Followed by the second civil war, and a coup, That really only ended when they gave the south autonomy. It seems weird to Americans I think because of how our country was formed, but other former colonies have had serious consequences due to the imposition of borders by the colonizers. Think Afghanistan and its assorted ethnic groups who were told that they were all, magically, Afghani, and had to get along together.



*Two peoples doesn't really describe it. It's not as simple as Muslim vs. Christian, it's more about the ethnicities than that. It's the ethnic Nubian Arabs who are Muslim vs. Nilote (plural) who are Christian and animist. But you're still talking about a country with, according to wikipedia, 597 ethnicities who speak over 400 languages and dialects. The country is about 70% Muslim, 25% Animist, and 5% Christian.

Senusret I 02-07-2011 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2027780)
Right. I was listening to NPR talk about how the Sudanese seem to blame the British for creating "Sudan" out of two* peoples who had nothing in common. Essentially immediately after gaining their independence they had a civil war. For seventeen YEARS. Followed by the second civil war, and a coup, That really only ended when they gave the south autonomy. It seems weird to Americans I think because of how our country was formed, but other former colonies have had serious consequences due to the imposition of borders by the colonizers. Think Afghanistan and its assorted ethnic groups who were told that they were all, magically, Afghani, and had to get along together.



*Two peoples doesn't really describe it. It's not as simple as Muslim vs. Christian, it's more about the ethnicities than that. It's the ethnic Nubian Arabs who are Muslim vs. Nilote (plural) who are Christian and animist. But you're still talking about a country with, according to wikipedia, 597 ethnicities who speak over 400 languages and dialects. The country is about 70% Muslim, 25% Animist, and 5% Christian.
Holy shit. I knew none of that.

I owe my Black History Month to you. Seriously.

Drolefille 02-07-2011 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2027808)
Holy shit. I knew none of that.

I owe my Black History Month to you. Seriously.
I'm... honored? :o This was just a result of a few hours reading up on stuff because I'd heard the story on NPR earlier this week. Rarely does my useless information turn out to be so appreciated.

NinjaPoodle 02-07-2011 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2027780)
Right. I was listening to NPR talk about how the Sudanese seem to blame the British for creating "Sudan" out of two* peoples who had nothing in common. Essentially immediately after gaining their independence they had a civil war. For seventeen YEARS. Followed by the second civil war, and a coup, That really only ended when they gave the south autonomy. It seems weird to Americans I think because of how our country was formed, but other former colonies have had serious consequences due to the imposition of borders by the colonizers. Think Afghanistan and its assorted ethnic groups who were told that they were all, magically, Afghani, and had to get along together.



*Two peoples doesn't really describe it. It's not as simple as Muslim vs. Christian, it's more about the ethnicities than that. It's the ethnic Nubian Arabs who are Muslim vs. Nilote (plural) who are Christian and animist. But you're still talking about a country with, according to wikipedia, 597 ethnicities who speak over 400 languages and dialects. The country is about 70% Muslim, 25% Animist, and 5% Christian.
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2027808)
Holy shit. I knew none of that.
:eek:Me either!

christiangirl 02-08-2011 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 2027808)
I knew none of that.
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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 2027811)
:eek:Me either!
Ditto. Wow.

http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~nrudzi1/ima...oreYouKnow.gif

NinjaPoodle 02-08-2011 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2027956)
Geee-iiiiiii-joooooe!;)

pshsx1 02-08-2011 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2027956)
This.

Ghostwriter 02-08-2011 03:02 PM
So what should the name of this new country be?

I vote Sussudio. That way they can have a similar name and a catchy National Anthem.


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