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DeltaBetaBaby 09-15-2010 12:11 PM

Does GC have a disproportionately large number of PNM's who don't get bids?
 
It seems as though a lot of GC PNM's don't get bids, like at least 10%. That is obviously a larger percent than the general population of PNM's going through FR. Why do you suppose this is?

The only theory I have is that PNM's coming to GC for advice perhaps don't have the local connections to help them through it.

DubaiSis 09-15-2010 12:23 PM

Many people are more comfortable in an on-line community and are great communicators through the written word, but lack some of the face to face social skills required for a successful real life recruitment. Maybe the women who come here are like that?

Maybe our advice should be make sure you're getting out and talking to strangers to prepare for recruitment. But how could you say that in a way that doesn't promote creepy behavior?

agzg 09-15-2010 12:28 PM

Are you counting the PNMs that lurk and never post?

AlphaFrog 09-15-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1983949)
Are you counting the PNMs that lurk and never post?

Yes, because she has a way to quantify those people into her estimate.

SRSLY?

AZTheta 09-15-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1983953)
Yes, because she has a way to quantify those people into her estimate.

SRSLY?

Agreed.

Bad science... as I trudge off to the research lab...trudge trudge trudge. Research grunt, but it pays.

DeltaBetaBaby 09-15-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1983947)
Many people are more comfortable in an on-line community and are great communicators through the written word, but lack some of the face to face social skills required for a successful real life recruitment. Maybe the women who come here are like that?

Maybe our advice should be make sure you're getting out and talking to strangers to prepare for recruitment. But how could you say that in a way that doesn't promote creepy behavior?

Hmmm...maybe it could be couched more like the way someone would prep for a job interview. Have a couple of questions that you can ask, or a few unique facts about yourself that you might bring up in conversation.

agzg 09-15-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1983953)
Yes, because she has a way to quantify those people into her estimate.

SRSLY?

My point was that there are many many more PNMs and interested persons (mothers, fathers, brothers, friends) who look at GC and read the threads than those that actually post their stories/ask stupid questions/ask smart questions/shave your uncle's hairy back.

(And many that post a question, either get snippy or run off and never end up telling us how their recruitment went OR Sign up for a username, post in the intro thread, then never tell us about what happened during their recruitment).

AlphaFrog 09-15-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1983964)
My point was that there are many many more PNMs and interested persons (mothers, fathers, brothers, friends) who look at GC and read the threads than those that actually post their stories/ask stupid questions/ask smart questions/shave your uncle's hairy back.

(And many that post a question, either get snippy or run off and never end up telling us how their recruitment went OR Sign up for a username, post in the intro thread, then never tell us about what happened during their recruitment).

Life lesson #1 you learn as a parent: Never ask a question when you mean something as a statement. ;)

agzg 09-15-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1983970)
Life lesson #1 you learn as a parent: Never ask a question when you mean something as a statement. ;)

It was meant to be sarcastic. Sarcasm fail.

Re-try:

This must not include the number of inquiries we recieve (and or pageviews on the various recruitment related threads) where we never know how that poster's/lurkers recruitment turned out.

Point being - I do not believe that GC has a disproportionately larger number of PNMs that do not have bids matched. The numbers we get here are not statistically significant and do not reflect all campuses (indeed, many of the campuses we talk about are those who have a high number - not percentage but number - of women who are cut).

MysticCat 09-15-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1983975)
It was meant to be sarcastic. Sarcasm fail.

I understood your use of sarcasm perfectly.

Bazinga!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1983970)
Life lesson #1 you learn as a parent: Never ask a question when you mean something as a statement. ;)

And if all the other parents were jumping off a cliff, would you do it too? :p

agzg 09-15-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1984011)
I understood your use of sarcasm perfectly.

Bazinga!

And if all the other parents were jumping off a cliff, would you do it too? :p

I was channeling Sheldon.

And nice use of irony.

KSUViolet06 09-15-2010 02:48 PM

I have made this observation before.

I find this to be particularly true with the more competitive schools.

My theory is that the PNMs who come here for advice on some of the big rush schools are at a disadvantage because they're not going to be as well prepared as some of the other girls who don't NEED the internet to help prep for recruitment (who maybe have friends/family/etc who have rushed at those schools).

Ex: if you're coming here asking "do I need recs? where do I get them from? what do I wear?" in like mid-June, you're not going to be as prepared as Suzy who has friends who have rushed at the same school, plenty of rec connections, etc. and doesn't have to ask those questions. And you probably are less likely to get a bid.

Does that make sense?

qbt1990 09-15-2010 03:04 PM

I went into recruitment being convinced I wouldn't get a bid because of all the horror stories I've heard on GC :( Luckily I did get a bid. But there are A LOT of unsuccessful recruitment stories on here, unfortunately

Drolefille 09-15-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1984033)
I have made this observation before.

I find this to be particularly true with the more competitive schools.

My theory is that the PNMs who come here for advice on some of the big rush schools are at a disadvantage because they're not going to be as well prepared as some of the other girls who don't NEED the internet to help prep for recruitment (who maybe have friends/family/etc who have rushed at those schools).

Ex: if you're coming here asking "do I need recs? where do I get them from? what do I wear?" in like mid-June, you're not going to be as prepared as Suzy who has friends who have rushed at the same school, plenty of rec connections, etc. and doesn't have to ask those questions. And you probably are less likely to get a bid.

Does that make sense?

This makes a LOT of sense. We get a lot of PNMs who are asking questions because they're the first in their family to go Greek, the first to rush NPC, the first to rush at an SEC school, whatever. We're far more likely to get the ones who are out of their element, because they're the ones googling about sororities. So we get

I suspect we get most of our actives and alumni because someone was searching for some answer to a question about GLOs as well.

AnchorAlumna 09-15-2010 03:46 PM

10% is quite a low percentage...but I'm from the SEC school of recruitment.
I think we just get a higher percentage of people asking "what happened" and searching for an answer. The ones who pledged don't have time to hang out here.
But statistically, the percentage of all PNMs posting here, pledigng or not, would be infantisimal...infintisimal...er, really really low.


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