done.
 

im done.

A. Spend more time in English class. I'm too hungry to get my red pen out.
B. Stop hazing.
C. Keep your dirty laundry off the internet.
D. Talk to your active and alumnae sisters and brainstorm.
E. Search the threads here. If you think your problem is unique, you're probably wrong. Learn from the mistakes of others.

PS (Are you Omega Delta Pi?)

^^^ No, she's not.

Probably Omega Delta Phi.

http://omegadeltaphi.org/

So you don't want alternatives to hazing, you want harder-to-detect hazing?

What are you gonna do? Stop hazing.

You don't see nothing wrong with treating your pledges like second class citizens? You can have a tough and challenging pledge period without treating them as less then your self. Forcing menial chores on them, and setting them aside from members is not needed.

How about one night a week, hosting a movie and snack night at the house, and before or afterwards, having an educational meeting? sit them down, teach them your history, your philosophies, and treat them as sisters, instead of treating them less than that. If you treat them as equals, you won't be hazing them. Other GLOs do it all the time. You can too.

Thanks!

Gosh, where have I heard this before?

If what you're asking them to do doesn't either help them learn the history and operations of the sorority and Greek community or help them get to know its current and alumni members, I would call it hazing, and I'm more lax than 95% of the people on here.

There are plenty of things that you can do within the above limits I've mentioned, and not feel as though your pledges have skated their way to sisterhood. Have weekly quizzes on the history, etc and require a certain % of correct answers to pass. If someone continually is falling below that, ask if they're having any sort of issues or if they're just blowing it off. If it's the latter, terminate their pledgeship. I don't see the point of the phone answering or the door thing. Colors day is fine once a week (when all the fraternities and sororities are wearing letters, I assume your school has an official or traditional day like this) but constantly throughout pledging is a little ridiculous.

Everyone else: this is not an NPC sorority. They're not considered sisters from the moment they accept their bids. Please do not apply NPC standards to non-NPC groups, it just doesn't work and is borderline bigoted and narrow-minded. If you want these girls to have the same standards an NPC does, call up your HQ and ask them to colonize them.

This isn't what distinguishes hazing from nonhazing for every GLO and nonGLO. A lot of methods have been used to help (read: make) pledges learn and encourage/instill sisterhood and brotherhood. When pledges learn and are close with each other and the actives, people say "look, our methods work!!! There's no other way to do this. Anything else is skating."

I agree. :)

However, even a colors day once a week (which I hope no one considers someone working their way into an organization LOL) is considered hazing and can get chapters in trouble in some organizations. It is a way of identifying and unifying pledges that has no clear purpose beyond that and the aspirants are usually not participating by choice. Sure, they got dressed by choice and look willing but saying "no" wouldn't go over well and they know that.

With that said, anything that chapters do must be done in line with their organization's and school's regulations. They need to know when they are breaking the rules versus thinking that everything that sounds wonderful and harmless is acceptable. We can complain about the definition of hazing and how strict it is all we want, but it doesn't erase the fact that such regulations exist.

I take exception to the use of the word "bigoted" here.

But there's a difference between treating pledges as sisters and treating them like your personal slaves. I'm not going to sign on to the latter just because they're a local.

Even what you suggested, reacting to poor scores with a caring concern, seems to be out of the immediate experience of this poster.

If you're trying NOT to lose recognition, don't sound like you're trying to think of "secret hazing" techniques, especially if it is all over campus that you (apparently) haze already.

I figured as much. She needs to stay off of GC. Seriously.

Why would you even want to do such childish, immature things? Are you not young women preparing for the workforce? Perhaps you could attempt to be adults and your hazing troubles will be alleviated.

There's a middle ground though.

Well, it depends how far "colors" day goes. If your colors are pink and blue and you wear a pink shirt and blue jeans, and it stops there, that's fine. But if your colors are purple and green and you must dress in them from head to toe (including undies) that's over the top. And as I said, at many schools there's an unofficial day where the whole Greek community wears letters. If it's part of that I don't see a problem with it (as locals usually don't let their letters be worn until initiation).

Definitely the impression given by your post.

Serious question: Who says having pledges enter through the back door, having them dress in house colors or having them answer the phone is hazing? I'd be amazed if your state law does. Does the school classify these things as hazing?

If yes, then you need to be having a conversation appropriate people at your school about how to construct a pledge process that does not include what your school would classify as hazing. What are other sororities on your campus doing?

If no, then it really doesn't matter whether another org would consider these things hazing. But you really need to ask yourselves what constructive purpose is served by things like making the pledges answer the phone or use the back door.