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DaemonSeid 05-26-2010 01:19 PM

Sex Ed in kindergarten
 
Since DS does post a lil' bit of news every now and again, he thought that maybe you will want to watch this video of kids in Indonesia learning about Sex Ex.

Viewer discetion is advised.

IrishLake 05-26-2010 01:52 PM

huh. age 5 is a little young. but, it really seems more like a biology lesson. considering I am not familiar with the Indonesian culture... not sure what to think. I think I'm fine with it. Kinda surprising since they're muslim though.

DaemonSeid 05-26-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 1935125)
huh. age 5 is a little young. but, it really seems more like a biology lesson. considering I am not familiar with the Indonesian culture... not sure what to think. I think I'm fine with it. Kinda surprising since they're muslim though.

And maybe that was the only surprising point.

My question would be...would anyone here in the US want that to be taught to kindergarteners?

Especially since it looks more like something that might help kids against molestation?

Psi U MC Vito 05-26-2010 02:49 PM

I think starting something like this in the US would be a mess honestly. I do think it's a good idea, but the ultra conservative bunch would be screaming in outrage.

1stSoon2BePhD 05-26-2010 02:58 PM

I don't think that schools in America would ever start a program like this because, as Psi U MC Vito said, while some people would be down with it, there would be too many others who would not want this taught to their children. For this reason, more parents should teach these principles to their children... without the dolls, though.

Prettyface08 05-26-2010 02:59 PM

I didn't watch but, I definitely think that sex ed should begin in Kindergarten. By the time sex ed had gotten around to us some of my 4th or 5th grade (I can't remember) classmates were having sex. They need to teach it early and teach it often!

DrPhil 05-26-2010 03:07 PM

Prettyface08, 4th and 5th grade is early to me. Your fastass classmates were having sex? Yuck. Their parents are probably failing at life.

We didn't have sex ed until either 8th, 9th, or 10th grade. I can't remember.

There are so many things that kids should be taught in kindergarten and sex ed isn't one of them. That's because we are using the title "sex ed." I hate the idea of kids not knowing how to solve a math problem but knowing how to put on a condom. If this was about human bodies, that would be okay at kindergarten. Then every year they can learn something new about the human body (so elementary school kids won't try to learn by flashing their body parts at each other) and eventually (by middle school) learn about the actual act of SEX.

I'm probably expressing the above sentiment different than I'm thinking it. Oh well.

knight_shadow 05-26-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1935192)
Prettyface08, 4th and 5th grade is early to me. Your fastass classmates were having sex? Yuck. Their parents are probably failing at life.

We didn't have sex ed until either 8th, 9th, or 10th grade. I can't remember.

There are so many things that kids should be taught in kindergarten and sex ed isn't one of them. That's because we are using the title "sex ed." I hate the idea of kids not knowing how to solve a math problem but knowing how to put on a condom. If this was about human bodies, that would be okay at kindergarten. Then every year they can learn something new about the human body (so elementary school kids won't try to learn by flashing their body parts at each other) and eventually (by middle school) learn about the actual act of SEX.

I'm probably expressing the above sentiment different than I'm thinking it. Oh well.

When I lived in Indiana, we had sex-ed in 5th grade (though I don't remember any of my classmates having sex).

I don't remember those classes even being an option, though, past 5th grade (I lived in MD and TX and hadn't heard a thing about sex-ed classes).

And I thought you said "fatass" kids again :o

IrishLake 05-26-2010 03:11 PM

We had sex ed every year beginning in 3rd grade, and I went to a Catholic school. We had to have our parents approval though. There were a few kids whose parents didn't agree, and so they would go to the library for the hour of sex ed we got. Boys and girls were separated into 2 different rooms and taught everything from biological stuff to abstinance and morals.

DrPhil, I know what your'e trying to say. Learning biology isn't always going to be sex ed in the sense that we think of it being.

Psi U MC Vito 05-26-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1935192)
Prettyface08, 4th and 5th grade is early to me. Your fastass classmates were having sex? Yuck. Their parents are probably failing at life.

We didn't have sex ed until either 8th, 9th, or 10th grade. I can't remember.

There are so many things that kids should be taught in kindergarten and sex ed isn't one of them. That's because we are using the title "sex ed." I hate the idea of kids not knowing how to solve a math problem but knowing how to put on a condom. If this was about human bodies, that would be okay at kindergarten. Then every year they can learn something new about the human body (so elementary school kids won't try to learn by flashing their body parts at each other) and eventually (by middle school) learn about the actual act of SEX.

I'm probably expressing the above sentiment different than I'm thinking it. Oh well.

Well this is more about the biological aspect, as long as a bit on what is appropriate and not.

Prettyface08 05-26-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1935192)
Prettyface08, 4th and 5th grade is early to me. Your fastass classmates were having sex? Yuck. Their parents are probably failing at life.

We didn't have sex ed until either 8th, 9th, or 10th grade. I can't remember.

There are so many things that kids should be taught in kindergarten and sex ed isn't one of them. That's because we are using the title "sex ed." I hate the idea of kids not knowing how to solve a math problem but knowing how to put on a condom. If this was about human bodies, that would be okay at kindergarten. Then every year they can learn something new about the human body (so elementary school kids won't try to learn by flashing their body parts at each other) and eventually (by middle school) learn about the actual act of SEX.

I'm probably expressing the above sentiment different than I'm thinking it. Oh well.

Fastarses and Mannish arses, INDEED! I agree and feel/felt the same way. Those are the kids I didn't play with. Maybe the reason I think that this is important is because of that. Most of them didn't even understand what the heck they were doing or what feelings they were supposed to have.

With kids getting pregnant at 12 and 13 (I personally knew people who were) middle school was too late. The deed was done. I think that parents need to educate their kids as well. Maybe if they talked to their children they wouldn't think, "All you have to do is lay down and let him do it", which is what one of my classmates told me about having sex.

honeychile 05-26-2010 03:25 PM

As one of the more conservative people on GC, I'm all for it. Sex education, until a certain age, should be taught like biology, with "stranger danger" thrown in. By the time the kids get to 4-5th grade, the emotional aspect cam be added, then yes/no, birth control, abortion, etc. There was always the pros and the cons discussed, from religious objections to "can you deal with this 10 years from now?"

As I've said before, I graduated with over 700 people in my class, and there were only two pregnancies. When it comes to something like this, knowledge is definitely power.

BabyPiNK_FL 05-26-2010 05:00 PM

Children are already asking where babies come from at that age and can usually understand simple and logic information so I don't see a reason not to begin introducing the biological information in addition to "stranger danger" good touches v. bad touches etc.
I think by 4th grade the sexual parts need to be introduced because when I was in 5th grade (in a good Baptist school) I knew at least one set of kids (who were very well developed) in 6th grade were having sex. I also remember discussing sex very frequently with my friends from at least 3rd grade. We were very good kids and never thought about doing those things, but we knew what they were and how it was done, mostly from movies and tv and R&B and rap song lyrics were very graphic as well. (Gotta love Miami Booty Bass!)

KSUViolet06 05-26-2010 05:32 PM

My school started sex-ed in 4th grade (private in CA), but it was basic bio info and focused more on puberty, development and the changes you start going through (since there are kids who would start experiencing that within the next year or so). It talked about what sex was, but didn't say anything about it being bad or good.

Drolefille 05-26-2010 05:37 PM

Teaching kids the real names for body parts at that age would perhaps be the BIGGEST help I could think of. As well as the basic anti-molestation stuff.

Ideally parents teach their kids the real names and not cute nicknames anyway, but you do what you can.


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