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VJDTropical 03-13-2010 02:25 PM

Is it true that most Greek men are gay ?
 
Rumours have it that they are ... is there any truth to this stereotype ?

ThetaPrincess24 03-13-2010 02:44 PM

Because you appear to be from Angola, I will cut you some slack and answer your question nicely.

No, most greek/fraternity men are not gay. Are their gay men in fraternities? Yes there are some.

If you are asking that most men from Greece are gay, then I would also say no, most men from Greece are not gay, but yes there are some.

RU OX Alum 03-13-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1907118)
Because you appear to be from Angola, I will cut you some slack and answer your question nicely.

No, most greek/fraternity men are not gay. Are their gay men in fraternities? Yes there are some.

If you are asking that most men from Greece are gay, then I would also say no, most men from Greece are not gay, but yes there are some.

He's probably asking about guys from Greece.

Be careful in the Mediterian.

Senusret I 03-13-2010 07:45 PM

I haven't heard that stereotype in a very long time, but I did used to hear all the time that men from Greece were usually gay. Weird.

ThetaPrincess24 03-13-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1907176)
I haven't heard that stereotype in a very long time, but I did used to hear all the time that men from Greece were usually gay. Weird.

I've never heard that stereotype, atleast not for modern times. I do recall reading about ancient Greek & Roman history that having relationships with both men and women were not uncommon and was accepted as part of the culture of the time.

My high school Latin class got a 45 minute lecture on the subject and how homosexuality didnt concern them (the Ancients) after a classmate asked the teacher what the Latin word was for "faggot." Also included in that lecture was how politically incorrect it was to use the word, "faggot."

VJDTropical 03-14-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1907192)
I've never heard that stereotype, atleast not for modern times. I do recall reading about ancient Greek & Roman history that having relationships with both men and women were not uncommon and was accepted as part of the culture of the time.

My high school Latin class got a 45 minute lecture on the subject and how homosexuality didnt concern them (the Ancients) after a classmate asked the teacher what the Latin word was for "faggot." Also included in that lecture was how politically incorrect it was to use the word, "faggot."

Incorrect ... homosexuality was seen as superior to heterosexuality and not as equal ... basically male homosexuality was the best , heterosexuality second best and female homosexuality the third one in place

VJDTropical 03-14-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1907176)
I haven't heard that stereotype in a very long time, but I did used to hear all the time that men from Greece were usually gay. Weird.

Where did you hear this ? I heard this from forums , websites , articles and so forth that Greek men are gay ( as in homosexuality was superior in Ancient Greece and to a lesser extent Ancient Rome )

That's why I am even asking this

VJDTropical 03-14-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1907133)
He's probably asking about guys from Greece.

Be careful in the Mediterian.

I'm a she ;)

The first time sexuality came into place in this discussion was when I thought Greek men were kinda hot ... I found out in an article later that Ancient Greece was ripped with homosexuality and so here I am

Thinking and deliberating how many of them are gay

33girl 03-14-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VJDTropical (Post 1907247)
I'm a she ;)

The first time sexuality came into place in this discussion was when I thought Greek men were kinda hot ... I found out in an article later that Ancient Greece was ripped with homosexuality and so here I am

Thinking and deliberating how many of them are gay

Well this site isn't about Greek people who lived in/are from Greece, so please run along and play now.

VJDTropical 03-14-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1907249)
Well this site isn't about Greek people who lived in/are from Greece, so please run along and play now.

Meany :(

AOII Angel 03-14-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VJDTropical (Post 1907321)
Meany :(

Not a meany, just telling you that this is a site about fraternities and sororities, aka Greeks, NOT Greece! We don't know many REAL Greeks, therefore, aren't experts in the sexuality of their men. As a physician, however, I can tell you that in the general population, homosexuality is under 10% so the likelihood that ALL Greek men are gay is poor. Also, considering that ancient Greeks were polythiests and modern Greeks are overwhelmingly Greek Orthodox, which don't approve of homosexuality, I doubt that there is a general societal "homosexuality is best" mentality. Now, like 33girl said, run along!

DrPhil 03-14-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1907322)
As a physician, however, I can tell you that in the general population, homosexuality is under 10%....

:) I'm not sure what being a physician has to do with it, but I don't trust any attempts (not yours, but in general) to throw a percentage on the homosexuality in the general popualation. "Under 10%" is most likely underreported and based on a poor conceptualization of "homosexuality" and data sources.

AOII Angel 03-14-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1907324)
:) I'm not sure what being a physician has to do with it, but I don't trust any attempts (not yours, but in general) to throw a percentage on the homosexuality in the general popualation. "Under 10%" is most likely underreported and based on a poor conceptualization of "homosexuality" and data sources.

I think that it is pretty good estimation, in fact. I think that homosexuality, when not just experimentation but true homosexuality, is a genetic/programmed/born with (however you want to phrase it since we haven't discovered the exact cause yet) trait and not a choice. I threw in as a physician, because I was pointing out my thoughts from a medical and not a religious or societal viewpoint. That percentage is fairly consistent across many studies. If you choose to disagree, that may be your choice, but I choose to disagree with you.

Elephant Walk 03-14-2010 12:50 PM

Depending on how you define homosexuality (perhaps as totally and only for the same sex), it would be non-sensical to say that most Greeks are homosexual...as they probably would have a completely depopulated country, perhaps.

Just throwing that out there.

MysticCat 03-14-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VJDTropical (Post 1907245)
Incorrect ... homosexuality was seen as superior to heterosexuality and not as equal ... basically male homosexuality was the best , heterosexuality second best and female homosexuality the third one in place

This is bit of an overbroad statement, too. At least in classical Greek culture, sexual relations between adult males was often considered inferior. It's true that some male-male relationships were considered superior to male-female merely because males were considered superior to females. But in general, it was the older male-younger male relationship that was approved of, and not always even then.

A major problem arises in using a modern social constructs like "homosexuality" or "heterosexuality" and applying them to cultures that recognized quite different constructs.


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