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AKA2D '91 10-10-2001 07:10 PM

Juanita Bynum
 
The sista was on TBN yesterday. At first I didn't recognize her, but that voice had me caught up ALL in the TV.

Anyway, she told her beliefs regarding the incidents of Sept. 11 and took it to a whole 'nother level. I was truly feeling her. While she spoke, she continued to "touch" on certain things. I had heard that she had broken away from TD Jakes. And from what she "touched" on yesterday, it kind of enlightened me as to what the "issue(s)" was.

Does anyone know officially why she "split" from "him"?

Ideal08 10-11-2001 11:27 AM

What is TBN?

I'm interested in knowing what happened, myself... 2D, email me and let me know what you think based on what she "touched" on.

AKA2D '91 10-11-2001 04:08 PM

TBN is a religious cable channel. This one lady is always on there, she has this BIGGGGGGG hair :eek:. I call it the cotton candy lady,because her hair is sooooooo big and then it is PINK sometimes or Light Blue. :eek:

I don't know if all cable systems carry it, but I know here and at "home" they do.


Basically, she said the incidents from Sept. 11 were a wake up call. It is bigger than the terrorism, the retalliation, etc. She basically said that God does things in ORDER and this was in his DIVINE ORDER. Also she said that those that had those 6-figure salaries, SOME of them didn't really have a relationship with God and that God does things to get your attention. Now from that, she went on to say that even though these tragedies occurred, that there are some who still will NOT come to the Lord.

I "was feeling" what she said.'

She touched on some things that I thought may have been "punches" at a certain or certain "people of the cloth" ;)

tickledpink 10-13-2001 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91


Now from that, she went on to say that even though these tragedies occurred, that there are some who still will NOT come to the Lord.


She's so right. It saddens me to hear some of my unsaved associates with $$ still say Sunday after Sunday "Man, I couldn't make it to church because I don't have any church shoes"... or "I didn't have a dress to wear".

I can only hope that He'll use me to witness & minister to them so that they will come before it's too late.

MavenofDrec 10-14-2001 11:39 AM

Religion as a Rouse
 
I don't think Juanita Bynum's comments are too well thought out.
So often people use religion as a smoke screen. I don't think God would take the lives of innocent people, many of who were very reliogious to make a statement. Nor, do I think this was His way of getting peoples attention. People who WANT to be in Christ are, and those who DON'T continue on their ways. It is unfair to say that this tragedy happened because a few people are not religious. People have just as much right to be non-religious as those who chose to be religious. It is a personal choice.

Also, remember guys Ms. Bynum's comment are from a business persons prospective. Doesn't she have a ministry? ;)
Read between the lines!

Convinced 10-14-2001 12:09 PM

Is this the lady that does those "No More Sheets" tours? BTW, I attended The Potters House this summer (Jakes' church in TX) and I was NOT impressed.

FuturePhD 10-14-2001 05:49 PM

Convinced
 
Juanita Bynum does do the "No More Sheets" Tour (and has a book)...I've seen The Potter's House on T.V., why were you not impressed?

Convinced 10-15-2001 01:13 PM

not impressed
 
Well, T.D. wasn't there, which was a big disappointment. Then, when they took up the offering, the lady was like: Uh, Uh, I want to see some twentys up in here. Hold up your twenty in the air. I was like, lord jesus, what in the world!

AKAME92 10-16-2001 12:20 AM

Re: Religion as a Rouse
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MavenofDrec
I don't think Juanita Bynum's comments are too well thought out.
So often people use religion as a smoke screen. I don't think God would take the lives of innocent people, many of who were very reliogious to make a statement. Nor, do I think this was His way of getting peoples attention. People who WANT to be in Christ are, and those who DON'T continue on their ways. It is unfair to say that this tragedy happened because a few people are not religious. People have just as much right to be non-religious as those who chose to be religious. It is a personal choice.

Also, remember guys Ms. Bynum's comment are from a business persons prospective. Doesn't she have a ministry? ;)
Read between the lines!

I understand what you are saying. However, I didn't take it that way.
I personally don't believe that the events of 09/11 was an act of God. What happened on that day was born out of evil.

God is love in every personification of the word! I do believe that He has the power to take an absolutely horrible situation, and deliver the good. It is a shame that thousands had to lose their lives because of evil, but it is a blessing for the multitude of those who accepted Christ into their lives as a result of it.

Ideal08 10-16-2001 10:15 AM

Re: Re: Religion as a Rouse
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AKAME92


I understand what you are saying. However, I didn't take it that way.
I personally don't believe that the events of 09/11 was an act of God. What happened on that day was born out of evil.

God is love in every personification of the word! I do believe that He has the power to take an absolutely horrible situation, and deliver the good. It is a shame that thousands had to lose their lives because of evil, but it is a blessing for the multitude of those who accepted Christ into their lives as a result of it.

Why does everything that happens that's bad have to be born of evil? God does have wrath. I don't know, I'm not saying this was an act of God, but I'm not going to say it wasn't, either. If he can wipe out LIFE with a flood, a few thousand isn't bad. He did destroy entire cities. I don't know, I'm just not too quick to say this isn't God's work. This could have been done out of love, and we just don't know it yet. We don't know what the end is going to be, so we can't really judge the beginning, at least I don't think so. We have to wait until the book ends, heck, we're only on chapter 2.

If nothing else, this whole thing makes us think, really. Osama is a religious man, whether we think he leads a cult or not. So he feels he's doing what God commands him. To him, these acts were acts of God, not evil. Who's right?

Thank God for FAITH, right?

AKA2D '91 10-16-2001 07:37 PM

Re: Re: Re: Religion as a Rouse
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08


God does have wrath.

AMEN!

What does HE say about VENGENCE? (where's my dictionary? ;)) :p

MavenofDrec 10-16-2001 09:42 PM

The Wrath of God
 
AKAME292

You touched upon something that I had not even thought about. The Wrath of God! Certainly. Okay, now I have to go back and ponder that one for a moment. I'll be back:) ....

korkscru 10-16-2001 10:39 PM

I feel that God is not in any CONFUSION. No, MD, God did not CAUSE those tragedies to occur. However, it is my firm belief that he ALLOWS things to happen. You see, if you remember the story of Job, the devil had to go to God and ASK to bring those things on Job. The devil was saying that if God would give him the opportunity to test Job, then surely Job would curse the name of God and lose his faith. It was all a test of Job's faith. And because God KNEW that Job was a loyal and faithful servant, he told the devil to go ahead and take your best shot.

These are the signs of the times, Saints. And yes, I do believe that God does ALLOWS some things to happen in order to get our attention and test our faith and trust in Him.

It was a great tragedy that thousands of people had to die on September the 11th. But you better believe that it's an even GREATER tragedy that people don't know nor do they want to know the Lord.

The incidents that occurred on that day were truly evil and the people who did this (and the ones who conspired with them) have a GREAT and TERRIBLE God that they must answer to. Just remember that the devil can only do what God ALLOWS him to do. This IS the time to get to know the Lord if you don't know Him.

God Bless Everyone

AKAME92 10-18-2001 08:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: Religion as a Rouse
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08


Why does everything that happens that's bad have to be born of evil? God does have wrath. I don't know, I'm not saying this was an act of God, but I'm not going to say it wasn't, either. If he can wipe out LIFE with a flood, a few thousand isn't bad. He did destroy entire cities...

Soror Ideal08,

I've been thinking about your response for a couple of days now. You are absolutely right, God does have wrath. However, he is also precise. I don't believe God would have haphazardly destroyed thousands of innocent people. When he "wiped out LIFE with a flood", he also saved the only family that wasn't corrupt. When He sent his angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorah (sp?), He also spared the lives of Lot and his family for the same reason.

I don't know. I'm not a Bible scholar. We all have, and are entitled to, our own beliefs. This is just my own opion.:)

AKAtude 10-18-2001 08:41 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Religion as a Rouse
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AKAME92


Soror Ideal08,

I've been thinking about your response for a couple of days now. You are absolutely right, God does have wrath. However, he is also precise. I don't believe God would have haphazardly destroyed thousands of innocent people. When he "wiped out LIFE with a flood", he also saved the only family that wasn't corrupt. When He sent his angels to destroy Sodom and Gomorah (sp?), He also spared the lives of Lot and his family for the same reason.

I don't know. I'm not a Bible scholar. We all have, and are entitled to, our own beliefs. This is just my own opion.:)

Soror, point well taken.

I remeber growing up whenever something tragic happened to "good" or "innocent" people, I would hear grown-ups "justify" it by saying God only takes his own, or that God is trying to get someone else's attention. However, I can't say that all those people had a personal relationship with Him.:( So, I honestly don't know what to think.

I do agree with what Ideal said earlier. Sometimes we need a wake up call. How many times have y'all experienced an overflowing church during Christmas time and on Easter Sunday? Some folks act like church is only twice a year!:eek: You don't see them at any other time of the year, but they show up on holidays. Ok... I'm getting off the subject. The point I'm trying to make is as a nation we need to remember to put God first in our lives. Now, how long will it last?


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