Originally Posted by MegUWF (Post 1839346)

Hi! I just transferred from FSU to UWF and I'm very interested in possibly starting a new Panhellenic chapter! I never rushed at FSU even though they have a wonderful greek program with 15 NPC chapters, but I still couldn't help noticing the difference at UWF with only 4 NPC chapters. Even though I am a junior and wouldn't have the pleasure of enjoying all four years of sorority life, I think it would be a very rewarding experience to start a new sorority chapter - enhancing and expanding UWF's greek life! I would love to hear anyone's suggestions of how to accomplish this. Any and all advice is welcome and will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1839512)

Before you ask whether or not UWF is open to NPC expansion, there are some things that you need to remember, or to ask yourself:

First of all, UWF is primarily a commuter school, although things have changed in the past 10 years or so.

Secondly, the newst chapter at UWF is very new--I believe AXO received their charter in 2006.

Third, the size of the student body at UWF (10,000) is considerably smaller than that at FSU (41,000).

Fourth, and not to beat a dead horse, but have you looked into the 4 sororities at UWF?

For what it's worth, I grew up just outside of Pensacola and a lot of my HS friends went to UWF. I got books for HS papers at the Pace library. I remember quite clearly when the AXO chapter was being considered because my permanent address at the time was in the area and they were keeping alumnae posted about the progress. So, I'm not just some random person telling you to do your research.

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854980)

Coming from a student who has graduated from UWF, I must say your points are not valid.

1. UWF is not a commuter university anymore. I did live off campus, but that's because greek life isn't supported on my campus. 2 Fraternities had dorms, but they lost them because the brothers of each organization didn't want to get enough people to live in the dorms.

UWF has tons of housing. I personally didn't care for it too much, but in my last year trust me you didn't wanna keep communting for once. Parking is way over filled and there is almost never enough parking at once for students who commute.

2. Yes AXO came to UWF in 2006, but it's not really that big of a deal. 4 Soroties for 6, pretty soon 7 fraternities?

3. Student population doesn't matter. University of Miami has 10 IFC frats and 10 Sororities and it's the same size as UWF (10,000 undergradates). I am sure there are many other universities that follow this same trend.

4. I know sisters of all 4 sororities at UWF. They are good but none of them stand out. I can't really say anything negative about any of them, but there isn't one out of the 4 that really strike out to me like the IFC fraternities.

While they are good, the main issue IMO in general is that greek life at UWF has became unstable and almost non-existant. The element of secetcy doesn't exist anymore at UWF. People can't keep their mouths shut about anything.

An example would be that pretty much, everyone knows a little bit of what each fraternity and sorority does. Such as pieces of each others rituals and things that people would consider bad are spread around campus way too fast.

You should all be for bringing new greek life to UWF. UWF's greek life is way too weak to began with. The University makes way too many rules to stop things that would be condemed as "wrong" or "not tolerable", but many greeks can agree that it wouldn't be greek life without certain elements involved (such as what is practiced in certain rituals).

Not a lot of greek organizations have survived at UWF either. There has been 9 IFC fraternity attemps, and now there is only 6, maybe soon enough 4-5 due to the progress that organizations continue to make. Kappa Sig had a colony, never made it. PIKE is trying to return but currently is not around at the moment and DTD was kicked off campus a lil while back. And 4 out of 5 sororities still exist (Phi Mu was kicked off a while back).

Only the leaders of tomorrow can save UWF greek life. If you think you got what it takes, if you don't hold back, and you can recruit some bad asses, it might be possible.

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1839437)

By the time the sorority received a charter, you would be long out of school. That's IF the campus is even open for expansion.

More does NOT equal better. Go through rush and check out the existing chapters. Or did you do that already?

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1854981)

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854980)

Coming from a student who has graduated from UWF, I must say your points are not valid.

1. UWF is not a commuter university anymore. I did live off campus, but that's because greek life isn't supported on my campus. 2 Fraternities had dorms, but they lost them because the brothers of each organization didn't want to get enough people to live in the dorms.

UWF has tons of housing. I personally didn't care for it too much, but in my last year trust me you didn't wanna keep communting for once. Parking is way over filled and there is almost never enough parking at once for students who commute.

2. Yes AXO came to UWF in 2006, but it's not really that big of a deal. 4 Soroties for 6, pretty soon 7 fraternities?

3. Student population doesn't matter. University of Miami has 10 IFC frats and 10 Sororities and it's the same size as UWF (10,000 undergradates). I am sure there are many other universities that follow this same trend.

4. I know sisters of all 4 sororities at UWF. They are good but none of them stand out. I can't really say anything negative about any of them, but there isn't one out of the 4 that really strike out to me like the IFC fraternities.

While they are good, the main issue IMO in general is that greek life at UWF has became unstable and almost non-existant. The element of secetcy doesn't exist anymore at UWF. People can't keep their mouths shut about anything.

An example would be that pretty much, everyone knows a little bit of what each fraternity and sorority does. Such as pieces of each others rituals and things that people would consider bad are spread around campus way too fast.

You should all be for bringing new greek life to UWF. UWF's greek life is way too weak to began with. The University makes way too many rules to stop things that would be condemed as "wrong" or "not tolerable", but many greeks can agree that it wouldn't be greek life without certain elements involved (such as what is practiced in certain rituals).

Not a lot of greek organizations have survived at UWF either. There has been 9 IFC fraternity attemps, and now there is only 6, maybe soon enough 4-5 due to the progress that organizations continue to make. Kappa Sig had a colony, never made it. PIKE is trying to return but currently is not around at the moment and DTD was kicked off campus a lil while back. And 4 out of 5 sororities still exist (Phi Mu was kicked off a while back).

Only the leaders of tomorrow can save UWF greek life. If you think you got what it takes, if you don't hold back, and you can recruit some bad asses, it might be possible.

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854982)

BTW more does equal better. I like the thought of a diversity of organizations.

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854984)

UWF is always open for expansion since I know all the GA's and people in Greek Affairs. The people who work for greek affairs don't mind more organizations since it helps expand UWF and make it more legit. They even said it themselves that to let the strong organizations survive and let the weakest die out.

And bad asses are strong, which means they deserve to be in greek life which is what UWF is looking for.

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854984)

UWF is always open for expansion since I know all the GA's and people in Greek Affairs. The people who work for greek affairs don't mind more organizations since it helps expand UWF and make it more legit. They even said it themselves that to let the strong organizations survive and let the weakest die out.

And bad asses are strong, which means they deserve to be in greek life which is what UWF is looking for.

Originally Posted by Kappamd (Post 1854985)

You provide a solid argument for why UWF DOESN'T need to expand.

Originally Posted by uwfgreek (Post 1854980)

You should all be for bringing new greek life to UWF. UWF's greek life is way too weak to began with.