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SIGTAU338 04-22-2009 11:27 PM
Non Student Members
 
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KSUViolet06 04-22-2009 11:32 PM
Any woman wishing to join any of the 26 NPC member sororities must be a current full-time student at the school where the chapter is. We are not permitted to extend bids to those women who don't fit that criteria.

33girl 04-23-2009 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SIGTAU338 (Post 1802222)
Hello GCers. I did a search recently on this topic, and didn't really find anything that was quite right (if you know where something is, please redirect me). What is your chapter's policy on bidding non student?

Here is the situation: Some years back (before I was a brother) our chapter gave a bid to a kid who, at the time was not a student at PSB. He had been hanging around with all the brothers for a while and everyone liked him a lot. In the spring semester, he was given a bid, and accepted. He got in, took a little, had a job and everything a regular brother would do. It wasn't untile the semester after he was initiated that he became a student at PSB. He has since dropped out and is now an alumni.

Some of our current members want to retroactively black ball this member, only because he was bid as a non student. He's a great guy that we all like, but some people feel that he shouldn't be a brother. Has anyone else experienced this in their chapter? What did you do?

Thanks all!
If anyone should be blackballed, it's the brain trusts who gave him a bid without checking on his student status. They didn't discharge their duties to the fraternity properly - they admitted a candidate who technically was unfit for membership.

But it's over and done and he's a good brother now. I assume he paid his dues that semester, so let it go and move forward.

rhoyaltempest 04-23-2009 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SIGTAU338 (Post 1802222)
Hello GCers. I did a search recently on this topic, and didn't really find anything that was quite right (if you know where something is, please redirect me). What is your chapter's policy on bidding non student?

Here is the situation: Some years back (before I was a brother) our chapter gave a bid to a kid who, at the time was not a student at PSB. He had been hanging around with all the brothers for a while and everyone liked him a lot. In the spring semester, he was given a bid, and accepted. He got in, took a little, had a job and everything a regular brother would do. It wasn't untile the semester after he was initiated that he became a student at PSB. He has since dropped out and is now an alumni.

Some of our current members want to retroactively black ball this member, only because he was bid as a non student. He's a great guy that we all like, but some people feel that he shouldn't be a brother. Has anyone else experienced this in their chapter? What did you do?

Thanks all!
Is he really even a brother? Because most organizations won't even allow non-students or part time students to join. Did you all not go through your nationals on this? If you didn't, then this guy is not on record with your org and therefore is not a member.

AOII Angel 04-23-2009 02:37 PM
How do you blackball an initiated brother?

Gusteau 04-23-2009 02:53 PM
As stated earlier, if he is not registered with your (inter)national organization he is not really a member. Regardless I don't see what the purpose of retroactively blackballing him would be. What would that consist of - not inviting him to alumni events or something?

PeppyGPhiB 04-23-2009 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1802427)
Remember that episode of 90210 where Steve's fraternity brothers blackballed John Sears once they found out he raped somebody?
Oh, those KEG boys...

AOII Angel 04-23-2009 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1802427)
Remember that episode of 90210 where Steve's fraternity brothers blackballed John Sears once they found out he raped somebody?
Unfortunately, No! We didn't have Fox when 90210 started so I never got into it!

Elephant Walk 04-24-2009 05:14 AM
It's not worth "blackballing" him, to be quite honest. He's an alumni.

And it's happened often

moe.ron 04-24-2009 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1802614)
It's not worth "blackballing" him, to be quite honest. He's an alumni.

And it's happened often
Exactly, it's not worth it. Just let it be, he was a good active brother and probably a good alumni brother. He is registered as a brother with national. Just let it be, might cause a whole lot more harm, especially since it will divide the fraternity into factions.

Gusteau 04-24-2009 09:11 AM
I have to agree, there's probably no point in alienating someone who could possibly contribute time and money to helping your chapter as an alumnus.

Zillini 04-24-2009 10:21 AM
I've been following this thread and the question that keeps coming to my mind is why? Ya'll liked this guy, so much so that you disregarded the rules by issuing him a bid and initiated him when he wasn't yet a student. What's changed? He's an alum now, do ya'll even see him much? Why is it such a big deal now to want to try to go back in time to "fix" it when it wasn't a big deal when he was active?

MysticCat 04-24-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SIGTAU338 (Post 1802222)
He has since dropped out and is now an alumni.
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1802614)
He's an alumni.
Sorry, but I can't let it pass. Unless he has multiple personalities, all of whom were initiated, he's an alumnus.

And yeah, the horse is already out the barn. Let it go.

AOII Angel 04-24-2009 03:57 PM
Contact your fraternity's headquarters. I find it highly improbable that a collegiate chapter can vote to remove an alumnus from the fraternity's roles. Alumni generally are not under the purview of collegiate chapters. Maybe your fraternity is different, but it just seems a little odd.

33girl 04-25-2009 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1802798)
Contact your fraternity's headquarters. I find it highly improbable that a collegiate chapter can vote to remove an alumnus from the fraternity's roles. Alumni generally are not under the purview of collegiate chapters. Maybe your fraternity is different, but it just seems a little odd.
When he says "blackball" I think more than any status nationally, it's a "don't let him come to the house and don't invite him to events" sort of local thing.

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Originally Posted by SIGTAU338 (Post 1802771)
Those who want to black ball him are a small faction (2-3 brothers) who have decided that They were put on this earth to fix all the wrongs in the world. They've suddenly decided that, after 3 semesters of not giving a crap about the fraternity, they want to change things they don't like.
That's kind of what I figured. Tell them to chill the @#$% out - are they all going through breakups or hating women or something? That's usually where this kind of stuff starts...they have nothing better to do with their time.


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