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starang21 04-09-2009 10:36 PM

North Texas Republican asks Asian-Americans to change their names
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIBVDZGwtg

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...exas-lawmaker/

Asian-Americans say they are outraged that a Texas lawmaker suggested in a hearing that Asian-American voters should adopt names that are "easier for Americans to deal with" at the polls.

Texas Rep. Betty Brown, a Republican, made the comments on Tuesday as Ramey Ko, an associate member of the Organization of Chinese Americans, testified before the Texas House Elections Committee on voter identification legislation.

Ko testified that people of Asian descent frequently have difficulties voting due to differences in their legal transliterated names and the English name shown on their driver's licenses.

Brown asked Ko: "Rather than everyone here having to learn Chinese -- I understand it's a rather difficult language -- do you think that it would behoove you and your citizens to adopt a name that we could deal with more readily here?"

Brown later said, "Can't you see that this is something that would make it a lot easier for you and the people who are poll workers if you could adopt a name just for identification purposes that's easier for Americans to deal with?"

The Texas Democratic Party called on Brown to apologize on Wednesday.

The exchange, which has appeared on YouTube, has angered many Asian-Americans.

"It really goes to show you that no matter how much progress is made when it comes to race, ignorance still exists in America," said Brad Baldia, executive vice president of the National Association of Asian American Professionals. "It's a slap in the face and it goes to show that there needs to be more education of our government in terms of diversity in America."

Baldia said the comments were particularly "insensitive" as Asian-Americans are becoming increasingly involved in the political process.

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PhiGam 04-09-2009 11:36 PM

Their names are like 3 letters long... maybe we should find some poll workers who are literate? The person referenced in this article's last name was "ko" for crying out loud.

DaemonSeid 04-10-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1798417)
Their names are like 3 letters long... maybe we should find some poll workers who are literate? The person referenced in this article's last name was "ko" for crying out loud.

And your point is what exactly?

Why should you or anyone be worried about what someone's name is and who are we that we have the right to tell someone to Americanize their name?

That article would be a good example of taxpayer money going to waste.

That idea is just as bad as Sheila Jackson Lee's idea to ethnicize the names of hurricanes.

epchick 04-10-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1798433)
And your point is what exactly?

Why should you or anyone be worried about what someone's name is and who are we that we have the right to tell someone to Americanize their name?

I don't think PhiGam meant that they should change their names. I think he meant that because their names are so short (i.e. Ko) what is the point in trying to make it more "Americanized" when someone should be able to say/read that name.

33girl 04-10-2009 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1798441)
I don't think PhiGam meant that they should change their names. I think he meant that because their names are so short (i.e. Ko) what is the point in trying to make it more "Americanized" when someone should be able to say/read that name.

Man, she needs to come to the Burgh and try to deal with some of the Polish etc names around here. Aren't a lot of the Asian name translations pretty standard at this point?

moe.ron 04-10-2009 01:59 AM

Betty Brown Name Generator:
http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/12054/

My new name: Roy "Chicken and Dumplings" Brown

PM_Mama00 04-10-2009 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1798442)
Man, she needs to come to the Burgh and try to deal with some of the Polish etc names around here. Aren't a lot of the Asian name translations pretty standard at this point?

Yes I definitely have more trouble with European names than Asian. That's ridiculous! The only Asian names I've ever had trouble with are the ones that start "Ng"... how do you pronounce that?

WhiteRose1912 04-10-2009 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1798447)
Betty Brown Name Generator:
http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/12054/

My new name: Roy "Chicken and Dumplings" Brown

LaVerna "WalMart" Brown for me. :p Are they always Brown?

PhiGam 04-10-2009 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1798441)
I don't think PhiGam meant that they should change their names. I think he meant that because their names are so short (i.e. Ko) what is the point in trying to make it more "Americanized" when someone should be able to say/read that name.

Thank you, I'm glad you were able to comprehend what I was saying.

PhiGam 04-10-2009 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1798433)
And your point is what exactly?

Why should you or anyone be worried about what someone's name is and who are we that we have the right to tell someone to Americanize their name?

That article would be a good example of taxpayer money going to waste.

f you actually READ (gasp) my post you would see that I said that the problem is that the poll workers are dumb, not the names. I don't know what was so hard for you to understand about that but its the second time you've unjustifiably freaked out over one of my posts today. At no point in my post did I agree with this idiot. I also fail to see how her saying this is costing the country any money... we don't pay her by the word or anything.

PhiGam 04-10-2009 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1798481)
Yes I definitely have more trouble with European names than Asian. That's ridiculous! The only Asian names I've ever had trouble with are the ones that start "Ng"... how do you pronounce that?

I'm pretty sure it's "Ing" and Nguyen is "Wynn." Other than that asian names are pretty easy, I think Japanese names sound really cool. Mitsubishi, Nagasaki, Matsuzaka, etc.

LucyKKG 04-10-2009 05:22 AM

Yeah, I didn't realize that "Nguyen" was "Wynn" for years. I went to school with a lot of Asians (and my step-mom is Vietnamese), so I thought this was f-ing ridiculous. (Not implying that others not in my area would think that lady was sane.) Who asks an entire culture to change their names? That's like when 19th C immigrants felt they had to change their names to assimilate...except in this case, an official asked them to do it. So backwards!!!

ETA: Kudos to the guy speaking for being so eloquent and stating his case clearly without going "WTF are you serious?!" Cause yeah, that's what I would have done.

DaemonSeid 04-10-2009 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1798489)
f you actually READ (gasp) my post you would see that I said that the problem is that the poll workers are dumb, not the names. I don't know what was so hard for you to understand about that but its the second time you've unjustifiably freaked out over one of my posts today. At no point in my post did I agree with this idiot. I also fail to see how her saying this is costing the country any money... we don't pay her by the word or anything.

THUS...MY QUESTION....


AND....YOUR...POINT....IS...WHAT...EXACTLY.


I wasn't addressing 'you' personally!!!!

2nd time today huh?

Keeping count? I think you will survive the experience. It's gonna be ok...need a hug?

KSig RC 04-10-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1798494)
THUS...MY QUESTION....


AND....YOUR...POINT....IS...WHAT...EXACTLY.


I wasn't addressing 'you' personally!!!!

2nd time today huh?

Keeping count? I think you will survive the experience. It's gonna be ok...need a hug?

Seriously, DS - his point is simple: this woman is an idiot, and the poll workers (if they even exist, which I openly question) are likely idiots too.

You clearly misread it - that's OK to admit, dude.

DaemonSeid 04-10-2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1798532)
Seriously, DS - his point is simple: this woman is an idiot, and the poll workers (if they even exist, which I openly question) are likely idiots too.

You clearly misread it - that's OK to admit, dude.

That is why I asked him for clarification

That's what I get for responding to shyte after midnite....




Bottom line the idea for such a bill is a total waste.

Poll workers are not paid enough to know how to pronounce someone's name.

Hell, most people can't even pronounce NOR spell my last name correctly, as long as they can match my ID up to my voting records should be sufficient.

I would be insulted as all hell if someone asked me to change my last name so THEY could understand it.


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