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DaemonSeid 03-04-2009 06:28 PM

Russian scholar says US will collapse - next year
 
By MIKE ECKEL
MOSCOW - If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.

"There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy - a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.

The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the U.S. that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin.

Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy.

Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources.

He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now.

But he said the recent economic turmoil in the U.S. and other "social and cultural phenomena" led him to nail down a specific timeframe for "The End" - when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control.

Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men.

Turning to economic woes, he cited the slide in major stock indexes, the decline in U.S. gross domestic product and Washington's bailout of banking giant Citigroup as evidence that American dominance of global markets has collapsed.



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The sky is falling

The sky is falling

Run out into the streets and repeat.

UofISigKap 03-04-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1786727)
...when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control.

So, how will these regions be divided anyway? Are they going to use the large NCAA regions? If so I need to make sure that I live in a region I really like then... :p Hmm, do I make the move back to the Big Ten region or stay in the SEC? (Can you tell March Madness is on the mind?)

Kevin 03-04-2009 07:10 PM

This is about 3-4 months old I think.

PeppyGPhiB 03-04-2009 07:16 PM

This guy's been saying this stuff for years, but I believe this article is about remarks he made at a very recent lecture. He's a propogandist. But we shouldn't laugh too much, because this is the guy Russia wants its citizens to listen to. I'm disturbed at the direction Russia is moving in.

PhiGam 03-04-2009 08:03 PM

Its propaganda. Even if we "fell apart", our military would flatten Russia and China in a matter of months.

DaemonSeid 03-04-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1786775)
Its propaganda. Even if we "fell apart", our military would flatten Russia and China in a matter of months.

You think so?


RUSSIA AND CHINA vs the US??


Russia AND China vs the US is a fight we can't afford to be in right now...I think there would be too many other smaller countries eager to join in...against us.

SWTXBelle 03-04-2009 08:07 PM

I'm ready for Texas to secede. We've been independent before - what the heck. :rolleyes:

Kevin 03-04-2009 08:41 PM

As long as you're taking Amarillo, you might as well take Oklahoma with you.

moe.ron 03-04-2009 10:11 PM

Anarchy, Anarchy, Anarchy

Who got my heady Anarchy t-shirt?

kstar 03-04-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1786797)
As long as you're taking Amarillo, you might as well take Oklahoma with you.

No, they are NOT allowed to do so.

wolffootball37 03-04-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1786779)
I'm ready for Texas to secede. We've been independent before - what the heck. :rolleyes:

Im right there with you! I actually think thats one of the six they predicted.

AKA_Monet 03-04-2009 11:27 PM

I wish they would...

US ain't falling without a "few" who have something to say about it... Chiefly:

Miss San Andreas... She has plenty reason to put California into the water...

Mr. Supervolcano at Old Faithful... Google it...

The natural gas pockets through out the midwest... Goes along with the Texas Twister, etc.

Severe Noreasters in the Northeast...

Besides, it would NOT be the best's interests of the WORLD to take down the US at this time. Why? Economies would be sent back into the Stone Age. Why do it? The US has assets, like satellites that could be sold before going under, which are aged at this time, now. While, China is working on getting a robot to the moon now, some ~40 years after we put a few men on the moon? Yeah... Whatever... Russia ain't made it to the moon, so I don't give a crippa crap what they have to say.

Also, these countries make money of the backs of slaves. So they really need to shut the EFF up... Russia sold most of their nukes for drugs to the Iranians... And China has 2-3 ICBM's they are giving to N. Korea where the Dongger likes Vivid Entertainment's bootlegged porn... And, China needs to work on their melamine problems and Earthquake safety programs, right now... So, uh, no...

What I find ironic is this theory that the "world is going to HELL" ever since a Black man became POTUS... They would think that now and use terror tactics to incite misinformation.

DaemonSeid 03-05-2009 12:06 AM

If any secession was to happen, we know that Alaska would be the first to go....heh!

AKA_Monet 03-05-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1786915)
If any secession was to happen, we know that Alaska would be the first to go....heh!

I can see Russia from my house!!! :D

DaemonSeid 03-05-2009 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1786918)
I can see Russia from my house!!! :D

I am sure you can...heh!!!


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