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lsucajun8 12-22-2008 09:31 PM

Dogs!
 
I know there was a dog lovers thread not long ago but I ws wondering if anyone out there had a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. I have a 6 month old male named Gabe and i love him to death. I was just wondering if any of you also have one....

Educatingblue 12-22-2008 10:08 PM

I have one! He is really sweet, but he has some issues with aggression. We recently got him from one of the young ladies in my chapter, so I am not sure if he is missing his mom or just aggressive. He chases our guests around the house when they first arrive and he is very protective of his food and toys (we also have a very spoiled beagle)...He will growl if he thinks you are getting any where near. Aside from all of that, he is a lap dog who loves attention, loves to put on a show for my husband and I, and really likes a good rub down. The best/worst part, at the end of the day, he curls up with my husband and I like nothing happened all day.;)

honeychile 12-23-2008 12:50 AM

I don't have one, but a friend has a "Cavachon" - half King Charles Cavalier Spaniel, half Bichon Frise. It's an absolutely beautiful dog, and extremely well trained. He seems to have gotten the best of both breeds - it's one of the very few "designer dogs" I really like.

christiangirl 12-23-2008 02:17 AM

My friend has one. She's absolutely beautiful and very well-trained. I've never heard anything bad about the breed. Someone said they don't pee on themselves nearly as much as Cockers, which I'd find appealing. ;)

cheerfulgreek 12-23-2008 03:30 PM

I don't have one, but I see them quite often. Very cute dogs.:)

KSigkid 12-23-2008 05:05 PM

I have one; she's an awesome dog. She's almost 2 years old, a little under-sized, but (like EducatingBlue's dog) is a lap dog that loves attention.

lsucajun8 12-23-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Educatingblue (Post 1757505)
I have one! He is really sweet, but he has some issues with aggression. We recently got him from one of the young ladies in my chapter, so I am not sure if he is missing his mom or just aggressive. He chases our guests around the house when they first arrive and he is very protective of his food and toys (we also have a very spoiled beagle)...He will growl if he thinks you are getting any where near. Aside from all of that, he is a lap dog who loves attention, loves to put on a show for my husband and I, and really likes a good rub down. The best/worst part, at the end of the day, he curls up with my husband and I like nothing happened all day.;)

I am so suprised that any of the dogs this breed would be aggressive. I have a male blenheim and my best friend has 2 females and neither of them would ever even think of even growling at anyone. I guess it is every dog for himself though. I personaly LOVE the breed and even though they are a little pricy I will always have at least one!! I would love to have another but I think that I would be kicked out.:rolleyes:

lsucajun8 12-24-2008 08:58 PM

also, have any of you that have a cavalier ever bred them and if so, how easy is it for yu to sell the pups?

honeychile 12-25-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lsucajun8 (Post 1758202)
also, have any of you that have a cavalier ever bred them and if so, how easy is it for yu to sell the pups?

Leave breeding to responsible, knowledgable breeders! It's not just a matter of throwing two dogs together & hoping they hit it off. I'm posting an article, which the author wants to have spread around:

To Breed or Not To Breed?
By: Karen Peak

I am not even going to start hounding you on the millions of animals euthanized each year in shelters or that die on the streets. No one ever thinks this could happen to a litter they breed. I am going to tell you what makes a responsible breeder and the major effort that goes into ensuring the best, healthiest critters possible. Breeding is not just putting two cute dogs together and sixty-three days later you have cuddly pups. Responsible breeding requires work. It is not to be jumped into headfirst.

What a responsible breeder does:

Knows the breed standard. Each dog has a standard accepted by a kennel club that states what the ideal specimen of that breed should look like. It covers fur to teeth, color to structure. A dog not fitting the standard will not be considered for breeding. Also, they get out and show the dogs. Just because you think the dog may fit the standard, does not mean it is a good breed representative. Only by having the dog evaluated many times can you truly get a feeling your dog is breeding material – this goes for males and females (what a dog show does as well as other competitions such a Schutzhund – I highly regard a dog who has achieved a SchIII – field trials, lure coursing, etc.). Even if a dog is top notch physically, meets the standard well, but has temperament issues (shy, aggressive), it will not be bred. Many breeders also want to prove their dogs have brains to match the beauty. There are various sports that test a dog’s working ability. A dog should have both form and function.

Know the pedigrees.


Just because two dogs are great specimens does not mean they are compatible. Not all hereditary problems are a simple Dominant/Recessive gene thing. Some require a combination of multiple gene sequences before being expressed. So, two dogs could have parts of these sequences and if bred, the problem could be expressed though there is no sign in either dog’s background of the problem. Two great dogs also may not produce great puppies. A responsible breeder will research pedigrees and talk to other breeders to find the best possible matches. This can be a big undertaking. And just because a dog is winning all over the country does not mean he is the best. It may just mean he (or she) is being shown loads; chances are by a well-known handler, and everyone wants to breed to him (or get a pup from her). This dog may not be the best – just the most popular at the time. Do not be blinded by wins.

You also must know color inheritances. Some colors, like merles (blue or sable/red) should not be bred together. The merle gene, if doubled, can cause problems. Merle to merle breeding can be very bad…

Knows the dog.

A responsible breeder will test dogs for things like hips, thyroid, eye problems (eye should be tested yearly on breeding stock) and whatever problems are common to your specific breed. If something is suspected, the dog is not bred. They also require testing for the dog they intend to breed to. There are also diseases such as brucellosis that can cause fetal abortion (miscarriage) in pregnant females – it is sexually transmitted – your dog must be clear of. Brucellosis does not always have outward symptoms, your dog could carry it and you never know. Your dog also must be current on all inoculations.

Accepts the risks.

Breeding is not all happy. If you own a female, you must be willing to wait until she is physically mature to breed (about two years old). To breed too soon is like a teenage human having a child. They are not physically ready or emotionally. To breed too old is like a woman having her first child later in life. Males also must be at least two. You cannot get hips certified until they are two years old at least. Dogs of both genders must be fully mature and in top shape before breeding.

You must be willing to be in close contact with your vet from the moment of mating. There is so much that can happen and that you should know. There are nutrition concerns – pregnancy and nursing is taxing on the female body. There are risk factors – some breeds are prone to birth complications and almost always require medical intervention. I remember hearing an English Bulldog breeder state 99.9% of all English Bulldogs litters are born by C-section due to the physiology of the breed. Even in a breed not prone to birth complications, they can arise and be costly! Many breeders will have their vet x-ray (radiograph) a pregnant female to get an idea of how many pups, their placement, etc. A big pup could get stuck in the birth canal. A retained pup (not born for some reason) can die and cause massive infection as it decays. A female may die during delivery. Are you willing to hand rear a litter of pups? This is NOT easy and very tiring. What if your female has poor mothering instincts? Will you take over? Are you willing to accept that you could lose your dog and her puppies? What if one is born deformed or has a problem show up weeks down the road – then what? Are you willing to have you children see the miracle of death? I have only scratched the tip of the iceberg…

If you own a stud dog, you will have someone’s dog in your care for seven to ten days. You must ensure her safety, ensure another dog does not breed her, and that any of her needs are attended to. What if she will not breed naturally? Can you Artificially Inseminate?

Accepts responsibility for puppies.

Puppies need to be with Mom for 8 weeks – in some areas it is illegal to sell or give away an animal younger. This means eight weeks of poop, piddle, and then the fun of a litter of pups playing with food as they grow. They will require vet exams and at least one set of shots before going to homes. Vet costs, feeding, time to socialize and clean up after, postnatal care of them and Mom all can be expensive. What if down the road your dog develops a problem, say starts having seizures. Are you willing to call everyone who bought a puppy from you and inform them? What if someone calls you down the road and cannot keep the puppy – now dog – what will you do? What health guarantee will you offer? What if someone’s puppy proves deaf, dysplastic, epileptic, what will you do? You brought the pups into the world; therefore, you are responsible.

I have only touched on responsible breeding. There volumes devoted to responsible breeding. Whether you own a male or female, you must act responsibly. Do not breed haphazardly. Do not breed to get a dog "just like Scruffy" – it won’t happen. Do not breed if you cannot devote the time and money to do it responsibly. If you cannot ensure good, loving homes for pups (they do not go to pet stores or get dumped at shelters or given to just anyone), do not breed.

So you want to breed

So you want to breed, and your dog passes conformation, temperament, health, genetic testing. First you have to find a compatible / non related Stud, with all the same background testing as your female, i.e. conformation, temperament, health, genetic testing and good non related pedigree.

Breeding IS not as EASY as it looks. Lack of experience can risk the life of your Dam. Having puppies, so your Children can witness the miracle of birth, sometimes takes a twist....... Be Prepared, and ask yourself about how you will handle things, when things go wrong? Is it worth it? Most Whelpings do not follow the text instructions, most whelpings require experience. Also, There is no money in breeding, it is a Hobby and usually costs money to do it right.

barbino 12-26-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lsucajun8 (Post 1758202)
also, have any of you that have a cavalier ever bred them and if so, how easy is it for yu to sell the pups?

I liked this breed and checked into breeding them a few years ago (I used to breed CFA and TICA registered cats). Many cat breeders also breed dogs and vice-versa. What I learned about "Cavies" is this: You can't breed a female until they are older than usual because they mature slowly. So instead of the first breeding being at 1 or 2 years, you would have to wait and breed at 3 or 4 years old. Also, I think that someone mentioned that there are alot of complications and problems and a higher percentage of c-sections. This is definitely not a breed for an unseasoned breeder.

My suggestion is that if you want to breed your dog, contact the breeder that you got your dog from. This person will know the breed and their own lines and will be able to give you the best information. If you want more specifics, pm me. :)

lsucajun8 12-27-2008 03:11 AM

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Thanks for the info. It is actually my friend who has the female to breed. She has been doing it for awhile. I have the male, but I was just wondering!!


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