Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2269356)

Yes, I was privy to it. We had a ton of legacies come through, and most of them had legacy forms, but not too many others had recs. But, that was a long time ago and I think recs in general were not as widely used. I am quite certain that recs are much more common at my chapter now. The chapter very actively solicits them.

I don't know if you were directing part of your comment at me or not, but I have never said that my chapter didn't get recs. I know we did, but I also strongly suspect most PNMs did not have them - I know they didn't for my GLO. I know many of the women we pledged did not have them. I am sure that certain chapters on campus used them more than we did, and some chapters used them less.

The whole rec business is a lot easier now with electronic media, and I think that has aided the increase in rec usage at schools that didn't consider them heavily before.

Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2269356)

Yes, I was privy to it...I don't know if you were directing part of your comment at me or not, but I have never said that my chapter didn't get recs. The whole rec business is a lot easier now with electronic media, and I think that has aided the increase in rec usage at schools that didn't consider them heavily before.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2269366)

You and I were also both collegians in the pre-RFM days, too, right? With chapters needing to make heavier cuts much earlier in the process, I could see why both sides (chapters and PNM's) would make a lot more effort to find recs.

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2269509)

Hey, if every girl who went into rush at Bama or Ole Miss, etc. actually listened to advice, came in prepared and accepted the invitations they were given, think of how huge the pledge classes would be! So much worse than they are now. Consider them doing the chapters a favor.

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2265526)

I was at a high school recently and overheard a student saying that she would be rushing at Auburn. I said, "Do you have your recommendations in line?" and she replied dismissively, "Oh, no. I'm a legacy to 7 sororities."

OK, chica. You're out-of-state, I bet you're not a true legacy to 7, and there are probably at least 800 drop-dead-gorgeous girls rushing and you are at the other end of that spectrum, I fear. I hope a sorority is looking for a PNM with a high GPA.

Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2318947)

I do have an update on this one. I got the school bid list when it came out and her name was not on it.

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon (Post 2265428)

One of my colleagues was telling me his daughter will be going to an SEC school with a notoriously tough recruitment. I asked if she was going to rush (as I would have offered to write a rec) and he said, "Yeah, she's going to be an XYZ". :eek:

I warned him that it wasn't that simple, and he explained that his mother was an XYZ, that he has a cousin in the XYZ National HQ, and that his daughter's BFF from HS has a sister who is an XYZ at this school. He said, "She has it locked down."

Well, OK then. I'll just mosey along...

Overconfident parents breed overconfident PNMs.

Originally Posted by 1964Alum (Post 2319048)

I think there is a difference in having a healthy self confidence and feeling entitled.

No one is entitled to invitations to parties or receiving a bid. Membership is a privilege, not a right. And I think that is very important to keep in mind in going through recruitment. A certain humility is a very attractive quality.

Originally Posted by Jen (Post 2319080)

I think they've gone so overboard PC in trying to make it look like everyone gets a trophy that they set up totally unrealistic expectations for the PNMs. I still think we should go back to calling it rush, to saying "the sororities are choosing you" and being honest about how it all works.