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pinksirfidel 09-06-2008 08:13 PM

Where is Caylee Anthony?
 
I was surprised that there wasn't any discussion about this missing girl. Just curious to hear what everyone's thoughts were. I, personally, am praying that this little girl is still alive, however, her mother hasn't done much to help find her daughter. With all the lies and the new evidence that proves a decomposed body and chloroform was in her car, it's really hard to stay positive.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

http://wordpress.com/tag/caylee-anthony/

ZTAMich 09-06-2008 08:58 PM

Ugh I followed this most of the summer while I was visiting my parents outside of Orlando. I think the mom Casey know what happened and was probably involved. It would be great to think that Caylee will be found safe & sound but I highly doubt that.

AGDee 09-06-2008 10:10 PM

It's kind of sad that when I first heard about this one, I thought "Another mom who killed her kid.." What I truly don't understand is, with all the missing kids in this country, who picks which ones get massive press coverage?

UGAalum94 09-06-2008 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1713305)
It's kind of sad that when I first heard about this one, I thought "Another mom who killed her kid.." What I truly don't understand is, with all the missing kids in this country, who picks which ones get massive press coverage?

FOX and Nancy Grace apparently. (I think a show featuring Nancy Grace being attacked by bears would be the highest rated show on television ever. Is there anyone who doesn't hate her?)

Which was why for a long time, I ignored this case and its coverage.

But really there are some exceptional things about it in terms of the mother's refusal to cooperate and willingness to mislead and the nutty grandmother.

epchick 09-06-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1713311)
FOX and Nancy Grace apparently. (I think a show featuring Nancy Grace being attacked by bears would be the highest rated show on television ever. Is there anyone who doesn't hate her?)

I don't hate her.

I try to follow this case, but everytime I go to Nancy Grace it'll say "Breaking News" when in actuality its the same news from a couple days ago.

You can't tell me that Casey did NOT have anything to do with her daughter's disappearance. She can say all she wants that it was the babysitter, but give me a break. You don't leave your daughter with a babysitter, and then wait a month until you tell someone she's missing.

I also think that the grandparents know what happened to Caylee. They've flip-flopped their story soo many times. First, they had NOOOOOO idea who the babysitter was, then it was "oh yeah, we've known her, we've met her." They why couldn't you identify her, or even give a description? I understand that Casey is their daughter, but Caylee is their granddaughter, and at one point one of them has to supercede the other. Either they rather protect Casey, or they want to find justice for Caylee. If I was Casey's parents, i'd DEMAND answers. I don't know how long i'd support her.

And seriously, how many "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez" are there in FL that have something to do with that apartment complex? And she's been cleared, but supposedly its hte wrong "Zenaida."

UGAalum94 09-07-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713348)
I don't hate her.

I try to follow this case, but everytime I go to Nancy Grace it'll say "Breaking News" when in actuality its the same news from a couple days ago.

You can't tell me that Casey did NOT have anything to do with her daughter's disappearance. She can say all she wants that it was the babysitter, but give me a break. You don't leave your daughter with a babysitter, and then wait a month until you tell someone she's missing.

I also think that the grandparents know what happened to Caylee. They've flip-flopped their story soo many times. First, they had NOOOOOO idea who the babysitter was, then it was "oh yeah, we've known her, we've met her." They why couldn't you identify her, or even give a description? I understand that Casey is their daughter, but Caylee is their granddaughter, and at one point one of them has to supercede the other. Either they rather protect Casey, or they want to find justice for Caylee. If I was Casey's parents, i'd DEMAND answers. I don't know how long i'd support her.

And seriously, how many "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez" are there in FL that have something to do with that apartment complex? And she's been cleared, but supposedly its hte wrong "Zenaida."

We need to talk about Nancy. Even if you say that you don't hate her, are you sure you wouldn't want to see the TV special I proposed? How about with cobras? Or Piranhas? What about just a death match between Nancy and Dr. Laura?

I'm so with you on everything you said about the Caylee case. I will reveal just how much it bothers me: it almost makes me feel like we ought to be able to disregard the presumption of innocence and arrange some cruel and unusual punishment until the mother comes clean about what happened.

epchick 09-07-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1713376)
We need to talk about Nancy. Even if you say that you don't hate her, are you sure you wouldn't want to see the TV special I proposed? How about with cobras? Or Piranhas? What about just a death match between Nancy and Dr. Laura?

I'm so with you on everything you said about the Caylee case. I will reveal just how much it bothers me: it almost makes me feel like we ought to be able to disregard the presumption of innocence and arrange some cruel and unusual punishment until the mother comes clean about what happened.

Hahaha...as tempting as it sounds, I wouldn't like to see a show like that about Nancy Grace. Not quite yet. I might not hate her, but she's starting to get on my nerves. Maybe later...lol.

I agree about cruel & unusual punishment. I also think that Casey has a poor excuse of a lawyer. Nancy Grace (lol)interviewed him and all the "experts" (who were all lawyers) said that he has NO idea what he was talking about. He was trying to justify why Casey wouldn't talk (this was early into the case, around the time she was first arrested) and they all pretty much said he was talking outta his ass.

I understand that Casey might not want to reveal that she killed her child, but come on, how long are you gonna keep believing that the babysitter took her. I seriously think that she needs to have a psych evaulation, because she might literally believe her own lies and that is why she doesn't say anything. She has to have AT LEAST one screw loose.

UGAalum94 09-07-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713379)
Hahaha...as tempting as it sounds, I wouldn't like to see a show like that about Nancy Grace. Not quite yet. I might not hate her, but she's starting to get on my nerves. Maybe later...lol.

I agree about cruel & unusual punishment. I also think that Casey has a poor excuse of a lawyer. Nancy Grace (lol)interviewed him and all the "experts" (who were all lawyers) said that he has NO idea what he was talking about. He was trying to justify why Casey wouldn't talk (this was early into the case, around the time she was first arrested) and they all pretty much said he was talking outta his ass.

I understand that Casey might not want to reveal that she killed her child, but come on, how long are you gonna keep believing that the babysitter took her. I seriously think that she needs to have a psych evaulation, because she might literally believe her own lies and that is why she doesn't say anything. She has to have AT LEAST one screw loose.

Oh, I agree completely that Casey is likely crazy but it doesn't mean that she's not also evil. And I think her mother knows it.

I'm not serious about wanting to see a real show about Nancy, but I find her completely unlikeable and I can't figure why they wouldn't get someone less obnoxious for the show.

pinksirfidel 09-07-2008 01:11 AM

UGAalum94:
Perhaps its the "prosecutor" in Nancy that believes any suspect is guilty. That's what I like least about her. She presumes everyone guilty before she knows any hard facts.
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Casey didn't just become "crazy" overnight. Have you guys had the chance to listen to Cindy's 911 call? Clearly, Cindy had enough of her daughter's ways.

A friend of mine has parents who live in the same neighborhood as the grandparents. There have been so many protesters and press everyday in front of their home that the homeowners assoc. has been meeting to see what they can do to reduce the traffic going in and out of the neighborhood.

Educatingblue 09-07-2008 11:43 AM

FINALLY!!!
 
Just for the record I LOVE Nancy Grace! Anyway, I thought Casey killed Caylee from the beginning and I think her parents knew she killed her. Now they are just trying to put on a unified "front" and support their daughter. The initial bondsman put it best on Nancy Grace last night, "They have already lost a grandaughter and do not want to lose their daughter as well."

I absolutely LOATHE parents who support their children when they KNOW they are wrong...stepping down from my teacher soapbox now ;)

texas*princess 09-07-2008 11:54 AM

I saw a newstory yesterday that authorities found a gun in her grandfather's trunk... and that Caylee's mom was going back to jail b/c of check fraud. I just checked CNN and can't find it, but it looks like she is out of jail (again?). They found traces of cholorform in her car, and internet searches on chloroform on the mom's computer.

epchick 09-07-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1713501)
I saw a newstory yesterday that authorities found a gun in her grandfather's trunk... and that Caylee's mom was going back to jail b/c of check fraud. I just checked CNN and can't find it, but it looks like she is out of jail (again?). They found traces of cholorform in her car, and internet searches on chloroform on the mom's computer.

Yeah she was initially out on a $500,000 bond b/c some bountyhunter thought he could get Casey to give more information. Well that backfired on him, and she didn't talk (to pretty much anyone). She went back to jail for check fraud and then an anonymous source bailed Casey out (again for $500,000).

What I don't understand is if they found chloroform, hair (that has already been a match to Caylee), a big stain in the car (that was a match to Caylee), why don't they charge Casey yet? Are they going to wait for a body? Poor girl was probably dumped in a lake, the ocean or something.

AlphaFrog 09-07-2008 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713348)
And seriously, how many "Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez" are there in FL that have something to do with that apartment complex? And she's been cleared, but supposedly its hte wrong "Zenaida."

Aren't you Hispanic?

I realize the connection to the apt complex probably makes that Zenaida unique, but Zenaida isn't an unusual Hispanic name, and Fernandez-Gonzalez may as well be Smith-Jones.

jitterbug13 09-07-2008 07:23 PM

I was in Orlando the end of July for Delta's National Convention. This was all they talked about in the news. So the parents and I winded up following this story. Sometimes we'll catch an occasional story on Nancy Grace to follow up what's going on (and doesn't she seem more sensitive since she had the twins?).

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713348)
You can't tell me that Casey did NOT have anything to do with her daughter's disappearance. She can say all she wants that it was the babysitter, but give me a break. You don't leave your daughter with a babysitter, and then wait a month until you tell someone she's missing.

I also think that the grandparents know what happened to Caylee. They've flip-flopped their story soo many times. First, they had NOOOOOO idea who the babysitter was, then it was "oh yeah, we've known her, we've met her." They why couldn't you identify her, or even give a description? I understand that Casey is their daughter, but Caylee is their granddaughter, and at one point one of them has to supercede the other. Either they rather protect Casey, or they want to find justice for Caylee. If I was Casey's parents, i'd DEMAND answers. I don't know how long i'd support her.

Cosign. I think the whole family knows what happened to the girl.

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713379)
I agree about cruel & unusual punishment. I also think that Casey has a poor excuse of a lawyer. Nancy Grace (lol)interviewed him and all the "experts" (who were all lawyers) said that he has NO idea what he was talking about. He was trying to justify why Casey wouldn't talk (this was early into the case, around the time she was first arrested) and they all pretty much said he was talking outta his ass.

I understand that Casey might not want to reveal that she killed her child, but come on, how long are you gonna keep believing that the babysitter took her. I seriously think that she needs to have a psych evaulation, because she might literally believe her own lies and that is why she doesn't say anything. She has to have AT LEAST one screw loose.

Cosign on this too, especially the lawyer part.

epchick 09-07-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1713657)
Aren't you Hispanic?

I realize the connection to the apt complex probably makes that Zenaida unique, but Zenaida isn't an unusual Hispanic name, and Fernandez-Gonzalez may as well be Smith-Jones.

Yeah..i'm Mexican(-American). I'm not sure how common Zenaida is, i've never met one. I do know that if I was to make up a Hispanic name, for a fake person, it wouldn't be Zenaida. It would be Rosa or Maria, something that is harder to trace back to a specific person.

But my whole point was that there was ONE Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez that has a connection to Casey Anthony's apt. complex. Yet Casey said it isn't the same Zenaida. If you claim you left your daughter w/ Zenaida the babysitter at such-and-such apts, yet you claim the ONLY Zenaida that was ever at those apts is the wrong one. Yeah, there is something wrong there.

texas*princess 09-07-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713660)
Yeah..i'm Mexican(-American). I'm not sure how common Zenaida is, i've never met one. I do know that if I was to make up a Hispanic name, for a fake person, it wouldn't be Zenaida. It would be Rosa or Maria, something that is harder to trace back to a specific person.

But my whole point was that there was ONE Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez that has a connection to Casey Anthony's apt. complex. Yet Casey said it isn't the same Zenaida. If you claim you left your daughter w/ Zenaida the babysitter at such-and-such apts, yet you claim the ONLY Zenaida that was ever at those apts is the wrong one. Yeah, there is something wrong there.

I totally agree. I'm hispanic too, and grew up in S. Texas. I've never in my entire existance ever heard the name "Zenaida" :confused:

Like you, if I were trying to make up a hispanic sounding name I would have used Rosa or Maria or something like that.

AlphaFrog 09-07-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1713713)
I totally agree. I'm hispanic too, and grew up in S. Texas. I've never in my entire existance ever heard the name "Zenaida" :confused:

My Sister-in-Law (one of them) is a Zenaida. My mother in law is NOT one for unique names.

ComradesTrue 09-07-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1713720)
My Sister-in-Law (one of them) is a Zenaida.

Is she of central American heritage?

I am with T*P and epchick... living most of my life in Dallas, and working in a hospital where close to half of the patients were Hispanic (of Mexican heritage) I can't recall a single Zenaida ever.

epchick 09-07-2008 09:35 PM

I'm thinking that the name Zenaida might be more common among Cubans and Puerto Ricans, since I recall the FL police saying they had found a lot of "Zenaida"s in FL. If that's the case maybe that is why Casey said the name Zenaida, thinking it was a more popular name.


Although i'd still go with Maria. Its ridiculous how many Marias.

pinksirfidel 09-07-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713628)
What I don't understand is if they found chloroform, hair (that has already been a match to Caylee), a big stain in the car (that was a match to Caylee), why don't they charge Casey yet? Are they going to wait for a body? Poor girl was probably dumped in a lake, the ocean or something.

I think they are just taking their time on this one. Imagine if she is set free because of a possible double jeopardy?

ZTAMich 09-07-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1713795)
I think they are just taking their time on this one. Imagine if she is set free because of a possible double jeopardy?

I was JUST saying this to my mom back in Orlando tonight. I think the Police are really fed up with Casey by now but they are being careful about charging her for a crime if they don't have 100% solid proof. At the same time my heart really aches since there is a child missing.

epchick 09-07-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1713795)
I think they are just taking their time on this one. Imagine if she is set free because of a possible double jeopardy?

wouldn't it only be double jeopardy if she is on trial? As far as I know (about double jeopardy) she can be arrested as many times as necessary. But once she's put on trial, that's her one and only chance.

pinksirfidel 09-07-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1713836)
wouldn't it only be double jeopardy if she is on trial? As far as I know (about double jeopardy) she can be arrested as many times as necessary. But once she's put on trial, that's her one and only chance.

Yes, that's what I meant. If they charge her with murder now, they only have so many days to capture all the necessary evidence they need before the trial. I believe they are hoping to find more substantial evidence before charging her.

ZTAMich 09-09-2008 09:35 PM

I really can't stand the pic on the Orlando Sentinel website of a child holding a poster reading "How could you kill a baby like me?" WTF is the point of that??

pinksirfidel 09-13-2008 01:36 PM

The OCPD just released the interrogation tapes... She sounds a bit guilty to me!
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

honeychile 12-11-2008 01:15 PM

Sadly, it looks as if her body may have been found, less than a quarter of a mile from her grandparents' house: Child's remains found near home of Caylee's grandparents.

What could this poor child have done, to deserve such a fate?

SWTXBelle 12-11-2008 03:03 PM

Nothing. :(

ComradesTrue 12-11-2008 03:10 PM

This just makes me so sad.

I am just praying that she didn't suffer.

nittanyalum 12-11-2008 03:17 PM

I hope the mother rots.

agzg 12-11-2008 03:21 PM

I'll never understand how a mother could kill her own child. That is, of course, if she's found guilty.

epchick 12-11-2008 04:08 PM

Why do I get the feeling that if Casey Anthony hasn't already done it, she's gonna be pleading "mental insanity?"

Poor lil Caylee deserves justice, and I don't think she's gonna get it. I'm hoping that i'm wrong.

ZTABullwinkle 12-11-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1753690)
Why do I get the feeling that if Casey Anthony hasn't already done it, she's gonna be pleading "mental insanity?"

Poor lil Caylee deserves justice, and I don't think she's gonna get it. I'm hoping that i'm wrong.

I hate to agree with you, but you are probably right.

Kevin 12-11-2008 06:01 PM

This isn't a nationally newsworthy story.

I can't for the life of me understand why some folks want to follow the minutia of nothing faux-stories like this one (which in reality play out thousands of times every year across the nation).

PeppyGPhiB 12-11-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1753748)
This isn't a nationally newsworthy story.

I can't for the life of me understand why some folks want to follow the minutia of nothing faux-stories like this one (which in reality play out thousands of times every year across the nation).

It's because the mom is a cute, white young thang and her daughter is even cuter. Same goes for Natalee H., Laci Peterson, and Stacy Peterson. All young, cute and white, and really nothing incredibly noteworthy of their stories.

It shouldn't make any difference when a female is killed or disappears whether she's attractive or not, but it does. It triggers an emotional response in people, making them think, "She's so cute and looks so sweet! Who would ever want to hurt her? We've got to find her and find the guy that hurt her!" It's ALL that Nancy Grace covers!

agzg 12-11-2008 06:53 PM

Does Nancy Grace annoy the crap out of anyone besides me?

ComradesTrue 12-11-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1753770)
Does Nancy Grace annoy the crap out of anyone besides me?

I thought she annoyed the crap out of everyone.

I don't know which is worse... her obnoxious personality or her screetching vocal quality.

Kevin 12-11-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1753770)
Does Nancy Grace annoy the crap out of anyone besides me?

I think she would if I watched those shows. Shows like Nancy Grace are part of why Americans are so painfully ignorant when it comes to real news.

agzg 12-11-2008 07:45 PM

In my opinion, she is to CNN what Paula Dean is to Food Network.

Annoying, and everything she presents is super fatty with no nutritional value.

Kevin 12-11-2008 07:48 PM

Yet you apparently watch her anyhow? :)

Don't you think it's a little sick for you to be using the potential murder of a child by its mother for entertainment purposes?

agzg 12-11-2008 07:51 PM

To be honest, I've watched maybe 2 shows? Commercials about Nancy Grace annoy me. Commercials with Paula Dean annoy me. When she's on programs on CNN that I actually like, she annoys me. When Paula Dean's on Iron Chef America, she annoys me.

I don't have to watch the show to know that half of what she puts forth is sensationalism, and the other half is not substantial news anyway. I feel like I get more newsworthy analysis from Law & Order.

ETA: I know I haven't watched anything on her show about the Caylee Anthony stuff - but I did notice an ad for her show on the linked website about the child's body.


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