Questions about GBX
 

I think the question was did your founders used to be Delta Beaux, not does your organization have an affiliation with Delta Beaux.

How am I just seeing this thread? That is a VERY good question, MysticCat. Let's look at the facts:

Historical Connection

Gamma Beta Chi (founded 2002): "On a cold winter evening in Broward County, Florida, the entity of Gamma Beta Chi Service Fraternity, Inc. was founded from a tradition of brotherhood which dates back as early as 1959 in Bloomington, Indiana." (Credit: http://www.gammabetachi.org/historypurpose.php)

Delta Beaux: "The Fraternal Order of Beaux, Incorporated has come a long way since 1959. Founded on the principle of Academics Awareness, Ethical Standards, Unity, Fellowship and Leadership, Beaux Inc. has broken new grounds by becoming the first traditional Non-Greek organization to completely sever ties with its parent group and become and incorporated entity under a unified region.

Formally known as Delta Beaux, the order was founded in the Spring of 1959, at Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana." (Credit: http://members.tripod.com/~BEAUXINCUSF/beauxhist.html)

EAMSB Connection
*EAMSB is some sort of secret phrase/pass-phrase

From Youtube - GBX: aceclub1 (1 year ago) "EAMSB" (Credit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fzCdmO3II)

From a guestbook - Beaux: Much repect, although I'm a Delta Gent/Beaux. From Edward Waters College. But I give props were they are do. EAMSB (Credit: http://maxpages.com/forms.cgi?formna...ist+Data&rad=x)

I'd like to thank a very special GCer for the real investigative work. He knows who he is. And, FYI, I've PDFed the evidence, so no take-backs. K?

Wow Soror!!! Good Job ;-)

Well hello there!! :D Thanks, soror. I can't take credit for the genious of the investigation. My partner in crime will have to reveal himself. No snitchin.

Interesting.

I mean, if Deltas can be okay with their history (and there is NOTHING to be shamed of, btw) then I don't understand why GBX isn't.

No shame in evolving from sidekickery to a "real" fraternity.

I am very impressed that you three seem to have taken such an interest in my organization. Keep up the good work.

So, if the question was "did your founders used to be Delta Beaux", what would your answer be?

Your more than welcome to refer to my initial response. Or you can attempt to contact the founders and ask them yourself.

Which is good for you?

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If it's not public information, then say so. If you don't want to be bothered to answer, then don't respond. I'm a huge fan of service organizations, and it's a shame to see the sole representative of your organization on GC play this ridiculous cat and mouse game.

My service sorority's founders were all TKE Little Sisters, for example. It's an important part of our history, and I would feel ridiculous if I gave the impression I was ashamed of it by refusing to talk about it. If anyone were to ask me about my founders' previous affiliation I would be completely up front and more than happy to discuss it. Which I guess is why I'm having so much trouble understanding why you are playing this so coy.

The answer is yes. The lack of a direct response answers the question for us.

"You're"

It's important for aspirants to know the true origins of the organizations they are pursuing...and to be ok with it. Gamma Beta Chi is not the first organization to be outed on Greek Chat. There's was this sorority...what was its name (:rolleyes:)...at UC-Berkeley that lied to its aspirants about its true origins.

You're in good company!

Keep em coming.

BTW how does it feel to be a member of

Another
Local
Prince
Hall
Affiliation???????

It hasn't dawned on him that aspirants of his organization will find this thread when they google his fraternity.

Better than Gents & BeauX

LOL

You nor your buddies are in any way, shape, form or fashion interested in membership. So spare me.

Your correct about the aspirant comment, though. And when any aspirant, respectfully, asks questions about GBX, I and any brother will be more than happy to answer their questions.

Very creative. I like that.

:D

I guess I also didn't get the same memo that he did, that service orgs who have a 'sidekick' past are supposed to be ashamed of it (or have all their actions give the appearance that they are ashamed). ;)

Well dang. Maybe I did want to join, but I sure don't want to now.

No, we're interested in whether you can be honest with the general public about the auxiliary organization, then fraternal order you spun off from. The initial question was asked respectfully but when you gave evasive answers is when the problems started.

You're doing too much. Nobody is honestly checking for GBX like you'd like to think they are.

Hush now, you have long since risen up from your shameful past. No one must ever know!

:p

No shame in it. As Senusret said, organizations spin off of older ones for one reason or another. If you're doing good work now and you are up front with the truth of your past, more power to ya.

If it's not public information, then say so.

My responses have said as such. But maybe I should spell it out.


Which I guess is why I'm having so much trouble understanding why you are playing this so coy.

Why do you care? At the end of the day, what possible difference does it make to you?

I'll bet.

Yet the constant posts and a new thread to boot. Yup......your right....no one cares.

Caring about GBX and enjoying the challenge of investigating fraud are two very different things.

All these years on GC and I still haven't learned that discretion is key. :p

We're actually pretty proud of it, since instead of folding as an organization we grew and adapted. I think it's pretty fantastic, never occurred to me to be ashamed of it until today, trying to figure out why one would be.

Yes, you should spell it out, because your responses have not said anything other than you think you are above participating in a conversation. You aren't doing yourself or your organization any favors by trying to be sly. At the end of the day, I'm just a girl proud to be in a service sorority, and this is just a website where people can make themselves look sillier than they need to.

Well then have at it Sherlock.

I have and you lose.

Yes I am above answering foolish questions.

What's sly exactly?

I agree with the last sentence 100%. Some of your buddies should take notice thereof and govern themselves accordingly.

If that helps you sleep at night....okay.

Better for you.


Not for me.

:confused::confused::confused:

Sigh..........

It's called a choice.

APA and APO was best for you

Just as my affiliations are best for me.

Seriously?

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/sly.html

sly [ slī ] (comparative sli·er, superlative sli·est)
adjective

Definition:
1. crafty: cleverly skillful and cunning
2. evasive: lacking honesty or straightforwardness
3. mischievous: full of playful mischief

[13th century. < Old Norse slœgr "clever, crafty"]

Any, general, information that you are seeking about GBX can be found on the National Website. If you are interested in learning more, then you are welcome to IM me.

Here is a brief bio of the Founders.


Founder Johnekins attended Hallandale Senior High School, located in Hallandale Beach, Florida. After graduating, Founder Johnekins received his college education from Broward Community College-South, located in Pembroke Pines, Florida where he studied Psychology and was a chartering member. Founder Johnekins was also instrumental in the great movement of the Gamma Debonair Mentorship Program, which is nationally recognized by the fraternity as an official service program.
A native of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Founder Robinson attended Stranahan Senior High School located in the city of Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Once Founder Robinson completed his high school education, he then went on to study Business Management at Florida Metropolitan University, also located in Fort Lauderdale. Founder Robinson is a Past President of the Broward County Chapter in Broward County, Florida and has contributed greatly to the business sector of Gamma Beta Chi.
Founder Williams attended high school at Dillard School of the Arts in Fort Lauderdale. Following high school, Founder Williams studied English Education at Bethune-Cookman College in Daytona Beach, Florida and then went on to study Graphic Design and Illustration at the Art – Institutes and Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, Florida. While attending Bethune Cookman, Founder Williams chartered the Gamma Beta Chapter in 2004. He is responsible for many of the fraternity’s study materials and the design of both the fraternity’s “sacred crest” and fraternity insignia.

That may be so. But I, seriously, doubt if certain comments are truly geared towards learning about GBX.

Going through the threads, no one became hostile until you began giving a cryptic history. If it's information you don't want shared, say that. If it's public information, say that. Don't rub people the wrong way and expect everyone to back off.