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Ottie 08-26-2008 12:19 AM

Community College Fraternity?
 
I just wanted to know if there has ever been a fraternity in a comminity college, if not is it possible?

Senusret I 08-26-2008 12:22 AM

Delta Sigma Epsilon at Wildwood Community College
Omega Kappa Chi at Riverside Community College

That was from wikipedia. The rest you will have to research on your own. Good luck.

kdonline 08-26-2008 04:05 AM

I think there was (is?) a chapter of Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity at Miami-Dade Community College.... though now it's just Miami-Dade College (they recently changed into a 4 year institution).

PANTHERTEKE 08-26-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 1705517)
I think there was (is?) a chapter of Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity at Miami-Dade Community College.... though now it's just Miami-Dade College (they recently changed into a 4 year institution).

There was, along with a TKE chapter, back in the 70s but Greek life didn't survive there.

PhiGam 08-26-2008 04:09 PM

Its worth a shot... the lack of on-campus living at most community colleges would make it tough but some nationals obviously allow it.

ForeverRoses 08-26-2008 04:23 PM

Vincennes University has Sigma Pi and one other NIC fraternity. They have recently started offering a limited number of 4-yr degrees, but the fraternities were there when it was exclusively a 2-year school.

Oh, and they have dorms so many of the students do live on campus.

Tom Earp 08-26-2008 05:12 PM

To be truthful, it has happened and it really doesnt work.

The simple fact is that if there were this happening, it would and could be hard to transfer to a 4 Year college and be accepted. One would not have to be.

LXA voted it down in 2004 at Gen. Ass.

Thetagirl218 08-26-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kdonline (Post 1705517)
I think there was (is?) a chapter of Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity at Miami-Dade Community College.... though now it's just Miami-Dade College (they recently changed into a 4 year institution).

This would be something interesting to keep tabs on.... In Florida, most of the community colleges are transitioning into 4 year schools and are attracting more and more 4 year students.

ree-Xi 08-26-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1705855)
This would be something interesting to keep tabs on.... In Florida, most of the community colleges are transitioning into 4 year schools and are attracting more and more 4 year students.


I wonder if that has anything to do with state funding?

BabyPiNK_FL 08-26-2008 07:52 PM

Yes, traditional schools are turning people away in droves because they don't have the money to fund larger freshman classes. I'm so glad I graduated when I did because my little sisters and friends are getting cheated as majors are being dropped and departments get condensed to save money.

But in a way it's not too horrible because so many FL kids end up in community college anyways, they don't think further than local CCs. I didn't even really consider university either until my parents made me apply and then made me go. (I'm glad they pushed though!)

Thetagirl218 08-26-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1705906)
I wonder if that has anything to do with state funding?

It does indeed! It also has a lot to do with what Baby Pink mentioned, the fact that traditional universities can no longer fund large freshman classes and are more selective. Also a lot of people go to community college because it is local and cheaper than your average university. They also want 4 year degrees at the cheaper price and close location. This has led the state of Florida to grant Community colleges the right to become 4 year colleges (starting with St. Petersburg College in 2002). It started with only granting degrees for fields with a large need, such as education and nursing, but it has grown rapidly to include many other fields.

Now the only difference with these schools is that they are solely commuter based, and don't have the on-campus housing and feel that universities do.

MysticCat 08-27-2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1705765)
Vincennes University has Sigma Pi and one other NIC fraternity. They have recently started offering a limited number of 4-yr degrees, but the fraternities were there when it was exclusively a 2-year school.

Oh, and they have dorms so many of the students do live on campus.

To be clear, though, Vincennes is a two-year university, not a community college. And it has granted baccalaureate degrees in select disciplines since prior to the founding of Sigma Pi there.

I may be remembering this wrong, but I seem to recall that the NIC made the decision not to restrict membership to those organizations that chartered only in four-year colleges because Sigma Pi, a founding member of the NIC, had its Alpha Chapter at Vincennes.

BTW, Pi Lambda Phi is the other national fraternity currently at Vincennes. All other Greek groups there are local, I think. And SFAIK, TKE and SigEp are the only two NIC fraternities that have chartered at community colleges, and I don't think either does so any more.

ferrus_manus 08-27-2008 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ottie (Post 1705443)
I just wanted to know if there has ever been a fraternity in a comminity college, if not is it possible?

Gamma Beta Chi National Service Fraternity Incorporated caters to students at;

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emb021 08-27-2008 03:25 PM

Alpha Phi Omega used to have several chapters at community colleges.

All have gone under.

Due to the problem of getting chapters going and keeping them going at community college, I don't think APO is opening to chartering at community colleges.

I did work to help a chapter get re-chartered at a community college that became a four-year school, but it wasn't successful.

g41965 08-28-2008 09:55 AM

Delta Upsilon had a chapter at Tyler Jr. College in Tyler,Texas from 1971-1988. Chapter was withdrawn due to risk management issues don't think DU will try at a Jr. College again.

PGD-GRAD 08-28-2008 06:09 PM

Community College Greeks
 
If you've seen any ads. from the community college system, some of them actually mention Greek life, homecoming, etc. and make the point that they chose this college lifestyle because those "other" things are not important to them. The Ivy Tech Community College system in Indiana has an ad that says something like: (TWO GIRLS TALKING:first girl says, "But Ivy Tech doesn't have sororities!" the other girl says, "Yes, but the cost is great and I can take just the classes I want and get personal attention.") Then the table of attractive girls looks over and makes eye contact with a table full of good-looking guys.

This may not be exactly word-for-word, but most community college students are there because they have neither the time nor money to do the four-year thing. And many community college students are "non-traditional" students who are older or back to pursue a second degree because of a job loss or lay-off. There are, however, many community college students who do their gen. ed. there and then transfer to four-year colleges and---some I've known--do then go Greek as sophomores.

mittens 08-28-2008 06:46 PM

Phi Theta Kappa - honors society.

PANTHERTEKE 08-29-2008 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mittens (Post 1707392)
Phi Theta Kappa - honors society.

Honor societies are not the same thing as social fraternities and sororities.

knight_shadow 08-29-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE (Post 1707668)
Honor societies are not the same thing as social fraternities and sororities.

Aside from community/city-wide chapters of organizations, that might be the only other option for the OP.

Xidelt 03-04-2012 04:45 AM

So, are you in an honor society for run-on sentences?^^

Pingyang 03-04-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by emb021 (Post 1706460)
Alpha Phi Omega used to have several chapters at community colleges.

All have gone under.

Due to the problem of getting chapters going and keeping them going at community college, I don't think APO is opening to chartering at community colleges.

I did work to help a chapter get re-chartered at a community college that became a four-year school, but it wasn't successful.

What about Parkland College (Alpha Zeta Omega chapter, I think)? They are a community college and were just chartered last year...?

naraht 03-04-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pingyang (Post 2129877)
What about Parkland College (Alpha Zeta Omega chapter, I think)? They are a community college and were just chartered last year...?

I'm gonna put in a "yeah, but" here...

Parkland College (AZOmega) is on the outskirts of Champaign, Illinois as in University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. The APO chapter at UIUC (Alpha Alpha) brought back 296 brothers this past spring and initiated 109 this past fall (and run both fall and spring pledge classes). The normal issue with a chapter at a Community College is that if *one* pledge class fails or you hit a bump in leadership, there very few people on campus to recruit the following year and the chapter is in trouble. With the chapter at Parkland 10-15 minutes off of UIUC's campus, if they do hit a bad year like that, Alpha Alpha can send over 20-30 brothers to help with recruitment without a problem, which can help them get over the hump in recruiting.

Alpha Gamma Theta at Columbus State Community College survived for 15 years (1990-2005) and was about the same distance from Ohio State University's chapter (Alpha Iota).

Having said that, there are some Regional Directors (The people on the National Board for specific areas of the Fraternity) who aren't interested in extending the Community Colleges at all.

So having a chapter at a CC may work, if the CC is in the same town as a large state school with a stable chapter.

MysticCat 03-05-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 2129854)
So, are you in an honor society for run-on sentences?^^

And for the bumping of old threads.

KAPital PHINUst 05-01-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2129903)

Alpha Gamma Theta at Columbus State Community College survived for 15 years (1990-2005) and was about the same distance from Ohio State University's chapter (Alpha Iota).

So having a chapter at a CC may work, if the CC is in the same town as a large state school with a stable chapter.

Naraht, what you don't know about Columbus State is the fact that during that 15 year period, there were large periods of dormancy where the chapter was virtually inactive, some lasting 2-3 years apiece. When I was a student there (1992-94), we only had one pledge class the entire time I was there (Fall 1992) and that consisted of only three people, whom I never saw after that. After I graduated, I remember attending a pledge ritual for two individuals in the Fall of 1995, of which only one got initiated. Then I remember a handful of people getting initiated in 1998 and another handful being initiated around 2000-2001, and the chapter died out shortly thereafter.

APO chapters at community colleges do not work because the community college environment simply isn't conducive to its survival (put another way, community college enrollment can be very sporadic - a student may attend one quarter and take the next two quarters off and re-enroll the following quarter, etc. Plus the school spirit at a community college isn't the same as that of a 4-year school).


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