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AGDee 08-23-2008 01:51 AM

Obama's running mate
 
It's official... Joe Biden. Thoughts?

moe.ron 08-23-2008 03:30 AM

good solid choice. he'll be a good attack dog for the election

Unregistered- 08-23-2008 04:05 AM

VERY HAPPY about it. :)

Kevin 08-23-2008 09:56 AM

It's about damned time.

Benzgirl 08-23-2008 10:02 AM

Lots of solid experience. Very happy

nittanyalum 08-23-2008 10:29 AM

Still feeling meh about it. Need to see them on the trail to get a better feel. I think he would have done better choosing a governor. Still having trouble getting excited about either ticket.

preciousjeni 08-23-2008 10:38 AM

Yay!

DSTRen13 08-23-2008 10:39 AM

I really wanted Bill Richardson. But I will be okay :)

piphiangel314 08-23-2008 11:56 AM

Very happy about it! I like Joe Biden.

pinksirfidel 08-23-2008 12:04 PM

Obama is just too "nice". Joe will bring a "tough" edge to the campaign...finally! I'm kinda bummed! I signed up for the Obama text last nite at 9:45pm and didn't get the announcement! Maybe I signed up too late. Anyone else experience the same thing?

On a side note: While everyone is talking about Biden's experience, Fox News was talking about how many bedrooms/bathrooms he has in his home! Lol. Which is funny, because it is a mere comparison to McCain's 7 or 8 homes. Fair and balanced, eh?

DSTRen13 08-23-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1703505)
On a side note: While everyone is talking about Biden's experience, Fox News was talking about how many bedrooms/bathrooms he has in his home! Lol. Which is funny, because it is a mere comparison to McCain's 7 or 8 homes. Fair and balanced, eh?

My mom sent me an article that analyzed the interior decorating styles in Obama and McCain's offices. It was interesting, but also just weird that they are writing this stuff ...

LightBulb 08-23-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1703452)
Still feeling meh about it.

Ditto, but at least it undermines McCain's main argument, that an Obama ticket wouldn't have enough experience for the job.

Elephant Walk 08-23-2008 03:15 PM

Meh, not from the south...

He's going to have some problems.

nittanyalum 08-23-2008 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1703584)
Meh, not from the south...

He's going to have some problems.

And that's one of my concerns...

Elephant Walk 08-23-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1703675)
And that's one of my concerns...

It's been shown that it's very important to carry the south.

I think he should have picked Wesley Clark had Clark had any interest in the veep spot.

nittanyalum 08-23-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1703682)
It's been shown that it's very important to carry the south.

I think he should have picked Wesley Clark had Clark had any interest in the veep spot.

Eh, Clark would have brought a myriad of soft spots too. I was hoping he'd pick a governor. Richardson was my top pick as well, but there were a couple of govs that would have brought a lot to the table. I was counting on his veep pick to get me fired up for the election finally. Now, I'm still just.... meh.

pinksirfidel 08-23-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1703686)
Eh, Clark would have brought a myriad of soft spots too. I was hoping he'd pick a governor. Richardson was my top pick as well, but there were a couple of govs that would have brought a lot to the table. I was counting on his veep pick to get me fired up for the election finally. Now, I'm still just.... meh.

Maybe I'm just slow, but what does "Meh" mean? Lol.

KDAngel 08-23-2008 08:08 PM

As a hardcore McCain supporter and DC politico, it's proof that there is a God for all of those who had any doubts.

KSigkid 08-23-2008 08:19 PM

Not really a surprise. Biden's kind of an interesting guy. If you've ever read "What It Takes," which tracked the 1988 Presidential Campaign, it does a good job of summarizing Biden's background. He's a pretty smart guy with a bit of a temper, and as someone who's anti-Obama, I just wonder how many votes he'll be able to pull.

nittanyalum 08-23-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1703762)
Maybe I'm just slow, but what does "Meh" mean? Lol.

"blah" :)

nittanyalum 08-23-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1703767)
As a hardcore McCain supporter and DC politico, it's proof that there is a God for all of those who had any doubts.

Well, let me clarify that I don't think it in any way clears the path for McCain, I still think he's got a tough road ahead and is most likely not going to win. I think he's a poor, poor candidate and not a bright selection on the GOP's behalf. And I personally staunchly oppose following up the last two GOP terms with another one, thus allowing all the entrenched politicos to likely stay where they are and keep performing at their sub-standard levels. I just wish I could get more excited about the ticket I will undoubtedly be voting for if for nothing else than the beat-out-the-DC-rug-to-dislodge-the-dustmites-that-are-buried-too-deep-in-the-nap factor.

SHEETCAKE 08-24-2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1703767)
As a hardcore McCain supporter and DC politico, it's proof that there is a God for all of those who had any doubts.

http://blogs.menupages.com/boston/Obama%20Cake.jpg

Get your own thread.

I'm voting for Obama because McCain would just jack up fuel prices more, making me cost more, making people eat less of me. Somebody tried to send a me with a gay stripper inside to McCain but they didn't know what house to send it to, so I just went to Larry Craig instead. :eek:

UGAalum94 08-24-2008 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SHEETCAKE (Post 1704081)
http://blogs.menupages.com/boston/Obama%20Cake.jpg

Get your own thread.

I'm voting for Obama because McCain would just jack up fuel prices more, making me cost more, making people eat less of me. Somebody tried to send a me with a gay stripper inside to McCain but they didn't know what house to send it to, so I just went to Larry Craig instead. :eek:

You know, I was about to ask why you though McCain would jack up fuel prices more, but then I said, what the hell is wrong with me that I would try to have a political discussion with a cake?

AGDee 08-24-2008 12:48 AM

Normally, who the VP candidate is has no bearing on how I vote. Unless a President dies in office, (or shoots a staff member) we don't hear about them much and they don't have much of a role in anything until they run for President at the end of the President's two terms (or unless they are Cheney). However, this year, given McCain's age and Obama's security issues (needing secret service coverage earlier than any other candidate... almost as soon as he started running) I'd say there's a good chance the VP this time could end up President.

I'd be curious to see numbers on how influenced voters really are by the VP candidate.

moe.ron 08-24-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1704084)
You know, I was about to ask why you though McCain would jack up fuel prices more, but then I said, what the hell is wrong with me that I would try to have a political discussion with a cake?

You were going to have a debate with sheetcake.

http://www.islandersarmy.com/blog/wp...lson_haha2.jpg

bluefish81 08-24-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1704104)
Normally, who the VP candidate is has no bearing on how I vote. Unless a President dies in office, (or shoots a staff member) we don't hear about them much and they don't have much of a role in anything until they run for President at the end of the President's two terms (or unless they are Cheney). However, this year, given McCain's age and Obama's security issues (needing secret service coverage earlier than any other candidate... almost as soon as he started running) I'd say there's a good chance the VP this time could end up President.

I'd be curious to see numbers on how influenced voters really are by the VP candidate.

Honestly, talking to my friends and family that are still on the undecided/independent side of things - they say that after the last eight years, the VEEP candidate matters a lot. Or at least a lot more than it has in the past.

Regarding Biden, I think he's a good choice for Obama.

PhiGam 08-24-2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHEETCAKE (Post 1704081)
http://blogs.menupages.com/boston/Obama%20Cake.jpg

Get your own thread.

I'm voting for Obama because McCain would just jack up fuel prices more, making me cost more, making people eat less of me. Somebody tried to send a me with a gay stripper inside to McCain but they didn't know what house to send it to, so I just went to Larry Craig instead. :eek:

You're an idiot.

Unregistered- 08-24-2008 11:36 PM

I got a text from my sister in law earlier today. She was at the Diamondbacks' game with her sister and McCain was there. When he was on the JumboTron, the whole stadium booed.

Gotta love Arizona.

epchick 08-24-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1704693)
I got a text from my sister in law earlier today. She was at the Diamondbacks' game with her sister and McCain was there. When he was on the JumboTron, the whole stadium booed.

OMG that's awful. As much as I don't agree with McCain and his ideas, I wouldn't boo him. I hate when people do that, it's so disrespectful.

Unregistered- 08-24-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1704710)
OMG that's awful. As much as I don't agree with McCain and his ideas, I wouldn't boo him. I hate when people do that, it's so disrespectful.

He must have done something really bad to piss off his home state. :p

epchick 08-25-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1704711)
He must have done something really bad to piss off his home state. :p

I totally forgot that was his home state. Well he must have....sheesh! lol

scbelle 08-25-2008 05:06 AM

Maybe they didn't get invites to any of his 7 or 8 houses. :p

I love Biden. I think he's a good choice for the ticket. I'm hoping they win and Richardson can be SOS. He'd be outstanding.

SHEETCAKE 08-25-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1704692)
You're an idiot.

Says the man who argues with a cake.

honeychile 08-25-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1704104)
Normally, who the VP candidate is has no bearing on how I vote. Unless a President dies in office, (or shoots a staff member) we don't hear about them much and they don't have much of a role in anything until they run for President at the end of the President's two terms (or unless they are Cheney). However, this year, given McCain's age and Obama's security issues (needing secret service coverage earlier than any other candidate... almost as soon as he started running) I'd say there's a good chance the VP this time could end up President.

I'd be curious to see numbers on how influenced voters really are by the VP candidate.

I keep hearing more and more along these lines, especially as I go on my client visits. Let's not forget that Biden has already survived two brain anerysms. Scary, scary thoughts!

PeppyGPhiB 08-25-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1704104)
Normally, who the VP candidate is has no bearing on how I vote. Unless a President dies in office, (or shoots a staff member) we don't hear about them much and they don't have much of a role in anything until they run for President at the end of the President's two terms (or unless they are Cheney). However, this year, given McCain's age and Obama's security issues (needing secret service coverage earlier than any other candidate... almost as soon as he started running) I'd say there's a good chance the VP this time could end up President.

I'd be curious to see numbers on how influenced voters really are by the VP candidate.

My bf (a republican) and I were talking about this last night. I wouldn't say that I think there's a "good chance" that the next Prez will die in office, but it's certainly a stronger possibility than in a typical election, I think. McCain is looking and sounding older and older, and there are plenty of whackos out there that might make an attempt on Obama just because he's black. We all know that's wrong, but a real possibility.

AGDee 08-25-2008 07:58 PM

You're right, "good chance" is too strong but I was lacking a better way to say it. A stronger possibility than in more recent elections is a better way to put it. I know the concerns about Obama were expressed way back around the time of the Michigan primaries. One popular DJ said that the best way to ensure it didn't happen would be for Obama to pick Al Sharpton as his Veep... lol. All jokes aside, the underlying concern is there.

Thetagirl218 08-25-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1703811)
Well, let me clarify that I don't think it in any way clears the path for McCain, I still think he's got a tough road ahead and is most likely not going to win. I think he's a poor, poor candidate and not a bright selection on the GOP's behalf. And I personally staunchly oppose following up the last two GOP terms with another one, thus allowing all the entrenched politicos to likely stay where they are and keep performing at their sub-standard levels. I just wish I could get more excited about the ticket I will undoubtedly be voting for if for nothing else than the beat-out-the-DC-rug-to-dislodge-the-dustmites-that-are-buried-too-deep-in-the-nap factor.

I totally agree!!!!!! I am a registered Republican.....and I HATE McCain!

I think 8 years of a President so out of touch with the world, has really led to yet another shake up in politics! Its about time!

KSigkid 08-26-2008 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1705223)
I totally agree!!!!!! I am a registered Republican.....and I HATE McCain!

I think 8 years of a President so out of touch with the world, has really led to yet another shake up in politics! Its about time!

I think it all depends on what you mean by "shake up." We have a Democrat-controlled Congress - does that mean we should also vote to turn Congressional control to the Republicans, to shake things up? Or, do we only want a shake-up as far as it replaces a Republican president, a selective shake up, so to speak?

I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but I just find it interesting that a lot of the people who are talking about change, and about a shake-up, would want 1) to keep control the same in Congress and 2) would be so fired up over two Washington insiders in Obama and Biden. And, yes, Obama is a Washington insider, it's impossible not to be as a member of Congress.

I think the Obama camp made an error in not bringing Hilary on the ticket; there would have been some PR work to do in bringing on a former rival, but Obama's camp is pretty solid in PR (plus the press LOVES Obama), and picking up most of those former Hilary votes could have widened the gap considerably.

Then again, I was listening to one of the political radio shows, and they were talking about the McCain-Bush battle in 2000, how something like 30-40% of McCain backers had said at the convention that they wouldn't back Bush, and how that number decreased to about 6% at election-time. So, I could definitely be wrong.

But, hey, I'm just a Republican who isn't all that thrilled with his own party's candidate, and is voting for him in a "lesser of two evils" context.

nittanyalum 08-26-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1705551)
I think it all depends on what you mean by "shake up." We have a Democrat-controlled Congress - does that mean we should also vote to turn Congressional control to the Republicans, to shake things up? Or, do we only want a shake-up as far as it replaces a Republican president, a selective shake up, so to speak?

I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but I just find it interesting that a lot of the people who are talking about change, and about a shake-up, would want 1) to keep control the same in Congress and 2) would be so fired up over two Washington insiders in Obama and Biden. And, yes, Obama is a Washington insider, it's impossible not to be as a member of Congress.

I think the Obama camp made an error in not bringing Hilary on the ticket; there would have been some PR work to do in bringing on a former rival, but Obama's camp is pretty solid in PR (plus the press LOVES Obama), and picking up most of those former Hilary votes could have widened the gap considerably.

Then again, I was listening to one of the political radio shows, and they were talking about the McCain-Bush battle in 2000, how something like 30-40% of McCain backers had said at the convention that they wouldn't back Bush, and how that number decreased to about 6% at election-time. So, I could definitely be wrong.

But, hey, I'm just a Republican who isn't all that thrilled with his own party's candidate, and is voting for him in a "lesser of two evils" context.

Congress, the Supreme Court, etc., are whole other balls of waxes. For my part, when I spoke of dislodging the entrenched politicos, I'm talking about the countless political appointees who have gotten way too comfy deep in the bowels of the agencies, affecting policy without most of the country having any idea or understanding of how it works. Same with the lobbying groups that have well-trod paths into and out of the executive offices. This is not to say the current lobbyists won't just be replaced by a new set of interest groups, but at least the paths might change slightly so the grass can have a chance to grow back on the paths that have been so worn down the past 8 years.

KSigkid 08-26-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1705574)
Congress, the Supreme Court, etc., are whole other balls of waxes. For my part, when I spoke of dislodging the entrenched politicos, I'm talking about the countless political appointees who have gotten way too comfy deep in the bowels of the agencies, affecting policy without most of the country having any idea or understanding of how it works. Same with the lobbying groups that have well-trod paths into and out of the executive offices. This is not to say the current lobbyists won't just be replaced by a new set of interest groups, but at least the paths might change slightly so the grass can have a chance to grow back on the paths that have been so worn down the past 8 years.

Fair enough - I think, though, that the same interest groups are going to be there. Also, those political appointees will probably be on thin ice, no matter who gets elected - McCain and Bush aren't the best of pals, so I think there'd still be a housecleaning.


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