Mississippi State Bid Day
 

Today is bid day at MS State. Does anyone have any info?

Quota was around 74. Most houses took in the 80s with DG taking the largest at 89.

I wonder what percentage of whole chapters aren't even that big?

Hail State!

(That may seem a little Nazi-ish out of context, but it's a fight song, just in case any non-MSU fans read the thread.)

My daughter pleged Chi O...I think I heard they pledged 86 or 88 girls. I know Chi O, KD, Deta Gam all pleged quota.

I'm just glad it's over. They held the PNM's basically hostage all week. Tough on anyone to have to sit in a tent from early morning until late at night. Kind of tough on the Moms too :)

OK someone explain this quota thing to me. How is it determined how much OVER quota houses can go?

Congrats to all the new MSU pledges and their parents!

OK quota additions...

Once the RMF specialists figures out the optimum quota, based on the number of women attending pref and making final choices, she will take another look to see if they can match more women by allowing quota additions. The specialist will make an effort to match women so that that they can get their first or second choice - this varies by campus - and to allow more women to be matched. An effort is made so that made so one chapter does not get 10 quota additions and other chapters get 2 quota additions.

The specialists look at the possible quotas ranges and quota additions several ways to maximize the PNM's getting matched and the chapters pledging quota. It is really a wonderful system. On some campuses a PNM must maximize her options and attend all events she is invited to to be eligible for quota additions.

Hope this helps!

Not an expert by any means, but here's my basic understanding. Quota additions are based on the total size of the chapter, where a girl fell on the specific bid lists, and how she ranked her choices. It's an effort to place all PNMs who maximized their choices throughout recruitment. i.e.: at most schools, a PNM who elects to "suicide" would not be eligible for quota addition, but one who lists all choices would probably be placed somewhere. It's similar in some ways to snap bids, but those can be extended (by a group that failed to reach quota) to any PNM who was cut from rush earlier in the process or who unsuccessfully "suicided."

I may be wrong but I think on some campuses even if a chapter gets quota but still falls below total they can snap to total. Can someone tell me if I'm right or off base?

Phi Mu also exceeded quota - I think they pledged around 85 girls.

I believe these are record breaking pledge class sizes for all at Mississippi State!!

From my understanding, a chapter can't snap to total (if doing so means they would exceed quota), but they can COB/COR to total. Meaning that if a chapter is under total and does not hit quota, they can snap to quota and then any additional bids they extend beyond that it's referred to as COB/COR.

However I'm not familiar with some of the larger (ie SEC) recruitments, so maybe they doing things differently, though I haven't heard of what you described.

Well, I think the thing is that few people really talk about what the correct terms are and the experience of a girl who was offered a snap bid on bid day or a COB bid on bid day isn't different at all.

I think that can vary from campus to campus. On the campus I advise, snap bids would be distributed in time for the PNM to participate in Bid Day. COB/COR bids have to wait to be extended until after bids from Formal Recruitment have already been distributed (meaning the PNM doesn't participate in whatever revealing Panhellenic has planned).

ETA: but yes, I think you're right in that the terms do get mixed up and in some cases (from what you're describing) they are basically the same thing.

OOOh. Sorry for being so dumb. We're really talking about the difference between getting your bid on bid day as a snap and getting it anytime later as a COB?

My guess, and of course I don't really know, is that on campuses that tend to do 95% or more of their recruiting in formal, I bet there's a disposition to let chapters try to pick up as many available people as they can on bid day. It wouldn't surprise me if chapters snapping to quota had a higher priority making calls, but I doubt they'd make girls and groups wait and miss bid day. But again, I don't know.

No, you're not being dumb (unless I'm being dumb and missing any sarcasm). And on some campuses you may be right about not making chapters and/or PNMs wait to miss bid day. I was just saying on the campus I'm familiar with we can't snap beyond quota and if we were to try and offer any bids beyond quota before Formal Recruitment bids were distributed, we would get fined.

I was attempting to answer Just_Interested's question of snapping to total, which from my understanding you can only "snap" to quota, after which it's technically called COB/COR. Gotta love those technicalities...

Congrats to your daughter -- it's a wonderful chapter.

Here's a website for new members:

http://nm.chiomega.com/default.aspx

My chapter often both snapped and COBed on Bid Day.

The major distinction was that snap bids would be completed by the time bid lists were prepared and released, so snap bids would be on the official bid list the university released. Depending on the individual PNM's situation, it's possible that the chapter at large might not even realize they were a snap bid.

Whereas we would often offer COB invitations and those women would come to Bid Day, but that occurred in the hours between the preparation of bid lists and the start of Bid Night activities, or possibly even right at the beginning of Bid Night - they might come a bit late. Those women would not appear on the formal bid lists.

It was reported on our forum Tri Delta took 87 new members.

Oh, no. I was being sincere. I sometimes think I understand it finally, and then I realize I don't. It happens over and over.

I appreciate your sharing the info.

Thank you! I will tell you they have a darling pledge class! All the pledges and actives I met are so sweet. Chi O was her favorite from the first day, and I am so happy that it all worked out for her. She had her first meal at the house last night and said it was "very intimidating" :) I told her that in a few weeks, she will laugh that she ever felt that way.

And this will make you happy....Every one of her friends (at least the ones she's made so far) went to Chi O pref day. All but one of them pledged Chi O, and that one was a legacy to another sorority, and felt really pressured to pledge there.

On another note....has anyone seen a list of who pledged where? If so can you send a link?

It's as if it didn't happen, maybe they're studying.
 

Rush ended 8/19, neither the university website, nor the student press, mentions the new pledges, by number or name. This is SOP at many schools, considered to be good publicity for the young ladies AND the sororities AND the University. I checked MSU's Panhellenic hpage and it's as if Recruitment has not begun yet!! Seriously, inquiring alumnae minds want to know. Who pledged what at Mississippi State? :cool:
How bout a little PR:)

Maybe the university/Panhellenic had some privacy concerns that made them reluctant to publish the list and give "publicity" to the new pledges. If you have a question about a specific rushee or a specific chapter, contact the Greek life office.

I was thinking the same thing.

I know it's common practice at some schools (especialy in the South), but maybe Greek Life and Panhellenic are realizing that maybe it's best to protect their newest members.

If inquiring alumnae minds want to know, I say use other methods.

How do the other chapters at State feel about Pi Beta Phi joining them next semester?

Hi. Welcome to GC. It's always glad to see new Pi Phis. I'm the mod of the Pi Phi forum. :)

That said... you've asked kind of an awkward question. I'm sure that Mississippi State is generally pleased to have Pi Phi coming to campus, or else they wouldn't have voted to expand and extend the invitation to Pi Phi to colonize.

Maybe you're asking what Panhel has done in the fall to prepare for Pi Phi...?

something else about quota additions: all chapters taking quota additions will not necessarily get the same number of quota additions. say ABC has 120 members, DEF has 123 and HIJ has 130. panhellenic will try to match a quota addition with the chapter that has the lowest total membership. in other words, if patty pnm did not match, but had attended pref parties at ABC, DEF and HIJ, the way i understand it is that first option to add her as a quota addition would first go the ABC.

I may be wrong but the way I understand it, Patty PNM would go to the chapter she ranked as #1 which could be high total HIJ instead of low total ABC. Can somebody please confirm or deny?

I think all things being equal, this is the way they do quota additions at our campus. Regardless of the chapter total (if all are at total) then they try to match the PNm with her first choice.

To answer 2 of the questions posed about MSU. 1. My personal opinion is that the greek community is generally excited that Pi Phi is coming on campus. Naturally we are not quite sure what to expect since we have not undergone expansion in a while, but with the increase in the number of PNMs coming through, it is getting harder for us with 85+ member pledge classes. We need and have have plenty of room for another group on our campus. 2. The names of PNMs are normally run in our campus newspaper. I don't ever remember them being posted on the panhellenic website, but I am sure if you had a question about a PNM, you could call greek life,