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Tom Earp 08-13-2008 03:48 PM

Red Shirt
 
Red Shirt

If the Red shirt thing is new to you, read below how it went for a man...
Last week, while traveling to Chicago on business, I noticed a Marine sergeant traveling with a folded flag, but did not put two and two together.

After we boarded our flight, I turned to the sergeant, who'd been invited to sit in First Class (across from me), and inquired if he was heading home.

No, he responded.

Heading out I asked?

No. I'm escorting a soldier home.

Going to pick him up?

No. He is with me right now. He was killed in Iraq , I'm taking him home to his family.

The realization of what he had been asked to do hit me like a punch to the gut. It was an honor for him. He told me that, although he didn't know the soldier, he had delivered the news of his passing to the soldier's family and felt as if he knew them after many conversations in so few days.

I turned back to him, extended my hand, and said, Thank you. Thank you for doing what you do so my family and I can do what we do.

Upon landing in Chicago the pilot stopped short of the gate and made the following announcement over the intercom.

'Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to note that we have had the honor of having Sergeant Steeley of the United StatesMarine Corps join us on this flight. He is escorting a fallen comrade back home to his family. I ask that you please remain in your seats when we open the forward door to allow Sergeant Steeley to deplane and receive his fellow soldier. We will then turn off the seat belt sign.'

Without a sound, all went as requested. I noticed the sergeant saluting the casket as it was brought off the plane, and his action made me realize that I am proud to be an American.

So here's a public Thank You to our military Men and Women for what
you do so we can live the way we do.

Red Fridays.

Very soon, you will see a great many people wearing Red every Friday. The reason? Americans who support our troops used to be called the 'silent majority. We are no longer silent, and are voicing our love for
God, country and home in record breaking numbers. We are not organized, boisterous or overbearing.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends, simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops with dignity and respect starts this Friday -- and continues each and every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message that .. every red-blooded
American who supports our men and women afar, will wear something red.

By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United States on every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this count ry will share this with acquaintances, coworkers, friends, and family, it will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let our troops know the once 'silent' majority is on their side more than ever, certainly more than the
media lets on.

The first thing a soldier says when asked 'What can we do to make things better for you?' is. 'We need your support and your prayers.' Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by example, and wear something red every Friday.

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

Oh, yes, this came from an email!

If you do not like, it is your bad.

KSig RC 08-13-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1696531)
Oh, yes, this came from an email!

If you do not like, it is your bad.

http://www.ospreydesign.com/foreword...ves/my-bad.jpg



ALSO - TOM, MY MOTHER DIED DURING F-ING CHILD BIRTH, SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT MORE THAN "TWO PEOPLE" DIED SO I COULD LIVE. YOU DO NOT SIT BY ME WHEN I TYPE AND DO NOT KNOW MY CIRCUMSTANCES SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO STOP POSTING HURTFUL AND INSIPID STUFF. YOU CONSTANTLY POST VILE DRIVEL LIKE THIS FROM YOUR POISONOUS TONGUE. YOU SHOULD THINK OF OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE YOU SLANDER OR ASS-UME. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

nittanyalum 08-13-2008 04:38 PM

God, Tom, that's been around since like 2005. How out of the loop, exactly, are you?

Leslie Anne 08-13-2008 05:03 PM

Moronic propaganda.

socialite 08-13-2008 05:04 PM

cue broken record;
"And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free..."

Tom Earp 08-14-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1696612)
Moronic propaganda.


Really?

So showing respect is not the norm of today?:rolleyes:

So, KSig RC, what does this rant have to do with what I posted?:confused:

So, even though it may have been around a while, it is still a good reminder for what our troops have done and the final recignition that they desearve for the final payment for our freedom.

If you are offended by this I am sorry.

Tinia2 08-14-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1696586)
God, Tom, that's been around since like 2005. How out of the loop, exactly, are you?

has been around from about 2005. however this is an odd one as the following links show. all in all, in truth has nothing of value in terms of showing or offering repect for those in service. much more one can do for that.
however tom, for i hope the very last time, i am also including some sites that you (and everyone else)should keep real close by when reading your e-mails.
in re.: red friday:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/redfriday.asp
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/r/redfridays.htm

and now this is a list, part of which i found here in greek chat and just added onto:
About com/Urban Legends, Folklore & Myths:
http://www.snopes.com
http://urbanlegends.about.com
http://kumite.com/myths/
http://truthorfiction.com/
http://www.nonprofit.net/hoax/default.htm
http://www.sophos.com/security/hoaxes/
http://purportal.com/
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/hoax.html
http://www.factcheck.org/ political fact checking organization.

ree-Xi 08-14-2008 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1697397)
Really?

So showing respect is not the norm of today?:rolleyes:

So, KSig RC, what does this rant have to do with what I posted?:confused:

So, even though it may have been around a while, it is still a good reminder for what our troops have done and the final recignition that they desearve for the final payment for our freedom.

If you are offended by this I am sorry.

It's emails like this one that irk me.

Wearing a red shirt on a particular day (aside from the fact that the chances of anyone wearing red - a common color - on any given day is pretty high) does not a patriot make.

I'm sorry, but it's a passive attempt at presumed solidarity. There are plenty of active ways to show your appreciation to a service person.

- thank one in person - at the airport, the local reserve office, etc.
- write letters or cards, send them via the USO
- send a care package to a service person you know personally
- collect phone cards and personal hygiene items to send to soldiers
- volunteer with programs local families of service people stationed overseas
- get to know your local government, find out what their platforms are, how they vote, support candidates who are in favor of decreasing the length or recall frequency for military tours

Kevin 08-14-2008 02:57 PM

I thought if I wore red, then I'd be a communist.

Tinia2 08-14-2008 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1697451)
It's emails like this one that irk me.

Wearing a red shirt on a particular day (aside from the fact that the chances of anyone wearing red - a common color - on any given day is pretty high) does not a patriot make.

I'm sorry, but it's a passive attempt at presumed solidarity. There are plenty of active ways to show your appreciation to a service person.

- thank one in person - at the airport, the local reserve office, etc.
- write letters or cards, send them via the USO
- send a care package to a service person you know personally
- collect phone cards and personal hygiene items to send to soldiers
- volunteer with programs local families of service people stationed overseas
- get to know your local government, find out what their platforms are, how they vote, support candidates who are in favor of decreasing the length or recall frequency for military tours

and if one wishes to truely be pro-active tom, do some of the following. i have.
Sites which help Support our Troops:
http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/americasupportsyou/index.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6568316/
http://anysoldier.com/index.cfm
http://www.oidelivers.org/http://www.adoptaplatoon.org/
http://www.gi-bracelet.org/GIBracelet/index.html
http://www.uso.org/
http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home1024.html
AFES Gift Certificates
www.aafes.com/docs/homefront.htm

KSig RC 08-14-2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1697397)
So, KSig RC, what does this rant have to do with what I posted?:confused:

Well, I mean, your post overtly mentions that "only two people" will ever die for you - one of whom (Jesus Christ) is considered a minor prophet (at best) by well over half the people on the Earth. So . . . other people have accomplished the same at similar expense. Additionally, some who "sacrifice" their lives for others are not actually doing this for just cause.

In short, the email is pretty grossly simplistic and a pretty bad examination of patriotism, even if viewed as pure jingoism (which I basically refuse to do either way). Sure, I responded in the fashion of parody, but this should clear it up - this is really the main reason why it's not the best idea to post email forwards without any additional discussion, as well, Tom. The email forward has a very specific audience, and without any further discussion, it's hard to take it seriously or know where to take it.

ThetaPrincess24 08-14-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1697451)
It's emails like this one that irk me.

Wearing a red shirt on a particular day (aside from the fact that the chances of anyone wearing red - a common color - on any given day is pretty high) does not a patriot make.

I'm sorry, but it's a passive attempt at presumed solidarity. There are plenty of active ways to show your appreciation to a service person.

- thank one in person - at the airport, the local reserve office, etc.
- write letters or cards, send them via the USO
- send a care package to a service person you know personally
- collect phone cards and personal hygiene items to send to soldiers
- volunteer with programs local families of service people stationed overseas
- get to know your local government, find out what their platforms are, how they vote, support candidates who are in favor of decreasing the length or recall frequency for military tours


i like these ideas of support better in addition to flying an American Flag.

ThetaPrincess24 08-14-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1697454)
I thought if I wore red, then I'd be a communist.

LOL!!

Tom Earp 08-14-2008 05:23 PM

So, if it is so old and so tiresome then why do so many want to make fun of this original post?

I take it you do not care?:o

So, read in the news daily about the men and women who die for what they are given to do!

If they mean nothing to you, that is fine and you are a sorry person!

I do not want or like them to be in harms way, but, it is a trueism and they still die.

Give respect where respect is due instead of being a bunch of sh*ts and make snide remarks!:rolleyes:

You all do yourself well!:(

S & G
TPU

Kevin 08-14-2008 05:35 PM

I think paying your respects to the men and women in uniform is just fine. Wearing a red shirt is a tad absurd.

Occasionally, these sorts of symbols catch on, while I'm sure most of the time, they fail. Here in OKC, following the OKC bombing, we all drove around with our lights on for months as if to say "I remember" or to show solidarity or something like that. As with all fads, that died. I guess that means we forgot about the bombing??

Didn't the bloody shirts help put Ulysses S. Grant in office?

That worked out well :)

Leslie Anne 08-14-2008 05:59 PM

Tom, you're so unbelievably obtuse! No one in this thread suggested that they didn't care about our troops. It's the stupid red shirt idea that's the problem. (Well, that and the cheap sentimentality associated with it.)

Personally, I prefer actively doing something rather than being concerned with my wardrobe. :rolleyes:

_________

Thanks to Tinia2 for the links.

Benzgirl 08-14-2008 06:03 PM

Earp,

Ditto what Leslie Anne said.

Also, Wearing a red shirt in the US can get you killed. It is often associated with Gang Colors and if you show up on gang-turf, consider yourself an open target.

On second thought Tom, wear red.

Leslie Anne 08-14-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1697642)

On second thought Tom, wear red.

literally LMAO! :D

AlphaFrog 08-14-2008 06:34 PM

Earp:

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/phot...43301_9689.jpg

Tom Earp 08-14-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1697665)


How do you say P((( off!????

If none of you want to, then dont and quite bitching about it?

I or the post never said you have to! It was just a suggestion only!

I have never seen so many pisses and moans out of the same mouths that you try to talk out of.

You as AlphaFrog and others would rather complain about any and everything!:o


Oh AF, I have a plumbing problem do you have a wrench and travel?

S & G

TPU!


OH, BTW, have a swell day!

Did I spell everything right?

Just trying to make sure everything is OK!

AlphaFrog 08-14-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1697674)
Oh AF, I have a plumbing problem do you have a wrench and travel?

Sorry I don't do service work. However, if you want a multimillion dollar commercial plumbing project bid and contracts signed, I'm your girl.:cool:

BuckeyeTriDelta 08-14-2008 06:50 PM

Quit is spelled "quit." You need to drop the "e."

It is an alright post, but I agree just wearing red is not enough. Me wearing a red shirt in Po Dunk USA is nice for me to know personally why I'm wearing red. However, unless I wear a sandwich board saying "red is for the troops" everyone will think I am just wearing a red shirt. It is like wearing pink for breast cancer. It is nice to show support, but just wearing a colored shirt is not doing anything. If we all want to show support, go out and do something; don't just wear a certain color.

Benzgirl 08-14-2008 06:52 PM

^^^^BTD, where have you been?

BuckeyeTriDelta 08-14-2008 06:54 PM

Hey! Planning a wedding, moving schools not once but 3 times..setting up my classroom. Gearing up for football season of course. ;)

AlphaFrog 08-14-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeTriDelta (Post 1697683)
It is like wearing pink for breast cancer.

My best friend has a pink shirt he likes to wear that says "Save the Boobies!". Now that's attention for breast cancer.;)

BuckeyeTriDelta 08-14-2008 06:58 PM

OMG I have to find that for my fiancé. He is a boob guy (TMI I know, but I figured I would throw that in there for relevance).

christiangirl 08-14-2008 07:05 PM

Lol, I want a "Save the Tatas" shirt! :D I have no problem supporting troops. Wearing red every Friday won't bring them home safely or give their lost ones life again, but if it was like a national day of solidarity, then I'm down. That's not the overkill part for me--comparing soldiers to Jesus?

Now, where's that overkill? Oh...over there. :cool: Nice try, Earpie. I look forward to the next one.

ZTABullwinkle 08-14-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1697694)
I'm sure there's a dozen spammy emails in your inbox for Cialis that might help.

You owe me a new keyboard! :p

SOPi_Jawbreaker 08-14-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeTriDelta (Post 1697692)
He is a boob guy

Aren't all straight guys boob guys? :p

LightBulb 08-14-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1697481)
i like these ideas of support better in addition to flying an American Flag.

The Gadsden flag is pretty badass too.

SHEETCAKE 08-14-2008 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1697454)
I thought if I wore red, then I'd be a communist.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/2...g?v=1162620863

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1697665)

http://www.abirthdayplace.com/images/CK-211.jpg

MysticCat 08-15-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1697665)

Classic!

33girl 08-15-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1697821)
Aren't all straight guys boob guys? :p

Only until they get to college. Then they start getting some sense in their heads.

Oh, and our high school had this ridiculous tradition that if you wore red on Friday, it meant you were gay.

ForeverRoses 08-15-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1698075)
Only until they get to college. Then they start getting some sense in their heads.

Oh, and our high school had this ridiculous tradition that if you wore red on Friday, it meant you were gay.

Oh NOES I put two of my three boys in red shirts this morning. What will people think when they see them? That they are supporting the troops? That they are gay? That they are supporting gay troops? Or that they are two boys whose Mom grabbed the first two shirts she saw and put them in it without thinking?

Tom Earp 08-15-2008 06:14 PM

As long as they are in your hearts, minds, and thoughts!;)

socialite 08-15-2008 08:53 PM

^^^ the gay troops?

SOPi_Jawbreaker 08-16-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1698109)
Oh NOES I put two of my three boys in red shirts this morning. What will people think when they see them? That they are supporting the troops? That they are gay? That they are supporting gay troops? Or that they are two boys whose Mom grabbed the first two shirts she saw and put them in it without thinking?


I would think your third boy is unpatriotic. Tom Earp told me so.


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