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DSTCHAOS 08-12-2008 12:25 PM

U-G-L-Y! You Ain't Got No Alibi! YOU UGLY!
 
BEIJING - A 7-year-old Chinese girl was not good-looking enough for the Olympics opening ceremony, so another little girl with a pixie smile lip-synched "Ode to the Motherland," a ceremony official said — the latest example of the lengths Beijing took for a perfect start to the Summer Games.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080812/...p_synched_song


Awwww :( That's messed up. I saw a photo of the real singer on TV. She looks a little special and the substitute is prettier. But that's just wrong.

The audacity is kinda funny. :o

Senusret I 08-12-2008 12:38 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph...60_789580c.jpg

For the sake of comparision.

And now, just for the LGLO people:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/2...ong_xin101.jpg

The left arm is saying Lambda Pi Chi, but the right is saying Chi Upsilon Sigma.

DSTCHAOS 08-12-2008 12:45 PM

Oh and I don't really think the original singer is ugly. But apparently the Beijing officials do.

AKA_Monet 08-12-2008 12:57 PM

Bootlegging that chit... Lip syncing Milli Vanilli style... That's sad. How did folks find out the "attractive girl" couldn't sing?

nittanyalum 08-12-2008 12:58 PM

Aw, poor baby, she's 7! I think she's perfectly adorable for a 7-year-old. Talk about setting those girls on roads toward lowered and bloated self-esteem early...

preciousjeni 08-12-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1695427)

I don't see how red dress girl is cuter than singing girl?

Quote:

And now, just for the LGLO people:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/2...ong_xin101.jpg

The left arm is saying Lambda Pi Chi, but the right is saying Chi Upsilon Sigma.
LOL!

SOPi_Jawbreaker 08-12-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1695463)
I don't see how red dress girl is cuter than singing girl?


LOL!

I'm guessing they thought she was prettier because of the long hair and the straighter teeth.

preciousjeni 08-12-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker (Post 1695478)
I'm guessing they thought she was prettier because of the long hair and the straighter teeth.

Well dang...if that's the problem, throw some extensions and veneers on the child! I'd probably get it more if I understood the culture better.

AKA_Monet 08-12-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1695480)
Well dang...if that's the problem, throw some extensions and veneers on the child! I'd probably get it more if I understood the culture better.

It's that "intra-ethnic" issue. The standard of beauty differs for every group on the planet. Personally, I think it's wrong and stupid, but apparently, I am in the minority opinion here. If the 7year old can sing a patriotic song well and dance to it, she should have been on camera. The other girl is just as cute, but could not sing the song. I guess the Chinese know they have 2 billion odd folks they can maneuver and manipulate, so to them, they can get ANYONE to do ANYTHING...

epchick 08-12-2008 02:10 PM

I remember when I was still living in the dorms, my roommate was Chinese (from the Hunan province, if i remember correctly) and she looked A LOT like the girl on the right.

According to her, the way she looked wasn't considered beautiful by Chinese standards. I remember her saying that even her mom wouldn't say that she was beautiful. Being "beautiful" was looking more American----thinner face, rounder eyes, etc.

33girl 08-12-2008 02:17 PM

I'm sorry but red dress girl looks bratty to the extreme. I think the real singer is much cuter.

At least w/ Milli Vanilli, Rob and Fab really were hella hotter than the "real" singers.

AKA_Monet 08-12-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1695503)
I remember when I was still living in the dorms, my roommate was Chinese (from the Hunan province, if i remember correctly) and she looked A LOT like the girl on the right.

According to her, the way she looked wasn't considered beautiful by Chinese standards. I remember her saying that even her mom wouldn't say that she was beautiful. Being "beautiful" was looking more American----thinner face, rounder eyes, etc.

:(

Wow... That is truly the saddest thing I have ever heard. Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder... Wow... Isn't that a form of abuse?

aopirose 08-12-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1695516)
I'm sorry but red dress girl looks bratty to the extreme. I think the real singer is much cuter.

At least w/ Milli Vanilli, Rob and Fab really were hella hotter than the "real" singers.

Girl you know it's true. Ooo, ooo, oooooo

FWIW - I think that both girls are cute but the one who could sing should have been able to sing.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 08-12-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1695565)
:(

Wow... That is truly the saddest thing I have ever heard. Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder... Wow... Isn't that a form of abuse?

Well, the old Chinese school of thought is that parents shouldn't praise their kids too much or the kids will get a swelled head...so they will temper their praise with criticism..like Chinese moms will be like "Oh, you got an A. That's good, but you could've gotten an A+ if you studied harder."

DSTCHAOS 08-12-2008 03:47 PM

LOL...I still think the substitute is cuter and prettier.

But I see that as a different topic. The real topic is that it is jacked up that they did that and their explanation for it is jacked up.

KSig RC 08-12-2008 04:33 PM

Yeah, the substitute is just a much cuter kid, it's not particularly close. It's weird and awkward they did this, but if the goal was improving kid cuteness, that mission was accomplished.

Munchkin03 08-12-2008 04:48 PM

I'm sorry, but this is FREAKING HILARIOUS and totally sad at the same time.

I bet the substitute 7-year old is a total brat.

Educatingblue 08-12-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1695495)
It's that "intra-ethnic" issue. The standard of beauty differs for every group on the planet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1695503)
Being "beautiful" was looking more American----thinner face, rounder eyes, etc.

I was thinking the same thing. The girl in the red dress does look more "Western." It's really sad that minority cultures worldwide are still dealing with this issue...that's a whole new discussion:(

ETA: I think the actual singer is really cute BTW. I am glad she is proud of her accomplishment even though she was not the featured "star"

preciousjeni 08-12-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Educatingblue (Post 1695705)
ETA: I think the actual singer is really cute BTW. I am glad she is proud of her accomplishment even though she was not the featured "star"

Most definitely! I'd like to send her fan mail.

texas*princess 08-12-2008 07:08 PM

wow that's really sad. poor kid :(

ThetaPrincess24 08-12-2008 07:10 PM

i think the actual singer is cuter.

UGAalum94 08-12-2008 07:15 PM

Is this substitution any more messed up that what the opening ceremonies have become generally?

pinksirfidel 08-12-2008 07:39 PM

I also heard on MSNBC that the Chinese have admitted that the opening ceremonies were "digitally enhanced". China obviously saw a great need for "perfection" during this years olympics.

texas*princess 08-12-2008 07:51 PM

The Chinese used fake fireworks too:

Quote:

According to The Beijing Times what people inside the stadium and watching on television saw were computer graphics of the footprints inserted into coverage.

Gao Xiaolong, the head of the opening ceremony visual effects team, said it had taken almost a year to create the 55-second sequence.

Actual fireworks could be seen outside the stadium but it was logistically impossible to film them by helicopter, so the decision was made to recreate the effect digitally.
Footage of the fake fireworks

facebookjunkie 08-12-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1695495)
It's that "intra-ethnic" issue. The standard of beauty differs for every group on the planet. Personally, I think it's wrong and stupid, but apparently, I am in the minority opinion here. If the 7year old can sing a patriotic song well and dance to it, she should have been on camera. The other girl is just as cute, but could not sing the song. I guess the Chinese know they have 2 billion odd folks they can maneuver and manipulate, so to them, they can get ANYONE to do ANYTHING...

If you really think about it, MOST countries and ethnic groups always try to e[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']mulate white European or American standards of beauty. When I was in college, we saw a video of Asian women who were getting plastic surgery on their eyes to look less Asian and more white/european. Us black women have been doing it for years, we straighten our hair, and think that lighter is better, so even though its TOTALLY WRONG (esp since it's kids) I can understand why they might have done it, the WHOLE world was watching, so they wanted to put up some one who they probably would appeal to the majority "standard of beauty"[/FONT]

socialite 08-12-2008 10:26 PM

1) I think that's messed up, that little girl is amazingly impressive. If they wanted eyes to be off of her, they should have 'digitally enhanced' more of what was going on around her so everyone would be so mezmerized they didn't even care to look at the little girl... who IS cute btw

2) While I was at work, we were watching the opening and one of the hosts came back, looked at us and said with the most straight face "The whole opening would be so much more awesome if they weren't dirty communist bastards." Gave a big smile and walked away. We immeidiately started laughing hysterically.

FlaGirl07 08-12-2008 10:57 PM

poor girl is going to have some serious self-esteem issues.

SWTXBelle 08-13-2008 12:32 AM

We are talking about the Chinese, who refused to submit the birth certificates for their women's gymnastics team - they would only submit the government issued passports. Word is that they range in age from 10 - 14, and the youngest age able to compete is supposed to be 16.
Can we get cute singing girl to come here?

PANTHERTEKE 08-13-2008 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1696106)
We are talking about the Chinese, who refused to submit the birth certificates for their women's gymnastics team - they would only submit the government issued passports. Word is that they range in age from 10 - 14, and the youngest age able to compete is supposed to be 16.
Can we get cute singing girl to come here?

Yeah man those girls look like they're 10.. Only one of them looked older than 16.

Those damned Communists...

DaemonSeid 08-13-2008 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1695503)
I remember when I was still living in the dorms, my roommate was Chinese (from the Hunan province, if i remember correctly) and she looked A LOT like the girl on the right.

According to her, the way she looked wasn't considered beautiful by Chinese standards. I remember her saying that even her mom wouldn't say that she was beautiful. Being "beautiful" was looking more American----thinner face, rounder eyes, etc.

1. I am waiting for someone to "Well, they all look alike."

2. Well if that isn't enough, what about them CGI'ing the fireworks?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4652802a12.html

I think someone pasted the link aready...eh...it's worth mentioning again....

Also someone said that China had a B ball team...All I saw Sunday was Yao Ming and 4 other dudes that was getting in good shape.


If they were so concerned they should have gotten this guy to sing:

http://www.thebestlinks.com/images/0/07/WilliamHung.JPG

WarEagle07 08-13-2008 08:18 AM

The difference between th Chinese gymnasts and the American gymnasts maturity was quite disturbing. The Chinese made our own 5 ft. gymnasts look like giants! One of the Chinese gymnasts is missing a tooth and weighs a measly 69 lbs!! That gold medal should be revoked. But kudos to the American team for being so gracious in the face of deception.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/sp...tml?ref=sports

moe.ron 08-13-2008 10:49 AM

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsite...ents/img_8.jpg

DaemonSeid 08-13-2008 11:14 AM

And if that wasnt enough...the Spansh Basketball team is in trouble too

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...urn=oly,100152

BabyPiNK_FL 08-13-2008 11:30 AM

If those girls ever legally claim a younger age in the future, can the medals be taken away? I mean they do it to people who admit drug use at the time so I'm assuming that rules are rules are rules...(unless you are China).

DaemonSeid 08-13-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1696361)
If those girls ever legally claim a younger age in the future, can the medals be taken away? I mean they do it to people who admit drug use at the time so I'm assuming that rules are rules are rules...(unless you are China).

the IOC will have to make that determination then and even still they would come under scrutiny because they didn't bother to properly check the first time around. (if the allegations do turn out to be true)

pinksirfidel 08-13-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagle07 (Post 1696245)
The difference between th Chinese gymnasts and the American gymnasts maturity was quite disturbing. The Chinese made our own 5 ft. gymnasts look like giants! One of the Chinese gymnasts is missing a tooth and weighs a measly 69 lbs!! That gold medal should be revoked. But kudos to the American team for being so gracious in the face of deception.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/sp...tml?ref=sports

Those girls are clearly babies! My goodness, just compare them to our women's team. Its soo obvious, I'm surprised there isn't more outrage about this. To play devil's advocate: if the girls are "babies" they are definitely very talented...beating out women with 4 to 6 years more training.

Is it true that the Chinese simply choose there gymnast in pre-school at the age of 3? I heard from that age, they are given elite training until they qualify for the olympics!

epchick 08-13-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1696475)
Is it true that the Chinese simply choose there gymnast in pre-school at the age of 3? I heard from that age, they are given elite training until they qualify for the olympics!

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...65#post1696465

DSTCHAOS 08-13-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1696475)
Those girls are clearly babies! My goodness, just compare them to our women's team. Its soo obvious, I'm surprised there isn't more outrage about this. To play devil's advocate: if the girls are "babies" they are definitely very talented...beating out women with 4 to 6 years more training.

Is it true that the Chinese simply choose there gymnast in pre-school at the age of 3? I heard from that age, they are given elite training until they qualify for the olympics!


Your last paragraph touched on why being younger doesn't mean that you have fewer years (or a less rigorous) training.

Plus, isn't gymnastics also easier when people are younger because their bones are more flexible and they weight less. Or something? :confused:

KSig RC 08-13-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel (Post 1696475)
Is it true that the Chinese simply choose there gymnast in pre-school at the age of 3? I heard from that age, they are given elite training until they qualify for the olympics!

You "heard this" because it is verbatim taken from what the color commentary stated toward the end of the team competition. Like, exactly, word-for-word.

I'd guess it's more true than not - NBC has mostly had on the kid gloves in their presentation, save for Bela Karolyi flipping his lid.

Unregistered- 08-13-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1696561)
NBC has mostly had on the kid gloves in their presentation, save for Bela Karolyi flipping his lid.

No Olympics are complete without Bela Karolyi flipping his lid at least twice.


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