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princesspeach 08-07-2008 07:15 PM
Rec question
 
I am a PNM rushing this fall. I ran across a blog written by a sorority active who writes about sorority-related advice. I read the section she had about recs, and she said that if a sorority has a rec for you, they are REQUIRED to invite you back to day 2, and therefore since so many invitations will be reserved for girls who have recs, girls without recs are at a huge disadvantage. She also said to tell your rho chi if you had a rec to a house but weren't invited back.

Is this true? From what I've read on Greekchat, I don't think it is. But reading it in context it did not sound like she meant that this was specific to one school or sorority. However, since I am going into recruitment with not a single rec, this has me pretty worried. I wanted to check with you guys before panicking!

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by princesspeach (Post 1692428)
I am a PNM rushing this fall. I ran across a blog written by a sorority active who writes about sorority-related advice. I read the section she had about recs, and she said that if a sorority has a rec for you, they are REQUIRED to invite you back to day 2, and therefore since so many invitations will be reserved for girls who have recs, girls without recs are at a huge disadvantage. She also said to tell your rho chi if you had a rec to a house but weren't invited back.

Is this true? From what I've read on Greekchat, I don't think it is. But reading it in context it did not sound like she meant that this was specific to one school or sorority. However, since I am going into recruitment with not a single rec, this has me pretty worried. I wanted to check with you guys before panicking!
Care to post a link to this blog? You're not talking about the CosmoGirl one, are you? :rolleyes:

FSUZeta 08-07-2008 07:35 PM
it is not true. neither is the information she posted about legacies.

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 07:35 PM
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If you have a close friend or relative that is in another sorority you should ask her to write you a letter of recommendation to her chapter. Recruitment advisor’s read each of these letters which allows the chapter to pay special attention to you during the rush process. All girls with letters of recommendation have to be invited back for day 2. If you had someone write you a letter of rec for a certain house and get dropped from that house on day 2, let your recruitment counselor know immediately because this is not allowed. Letter’s of recommendation are very helpful because there are so many girls that go through, it’s easy to fall through the cracks. Letters of rec allow a chapter to know more about you and how wonderful you are.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

Girls with recs get cut all the time. Recs do not guarantee the PNM an invite for day 2. Recs do help, but they by no means give you an automatic pass to day 2.

If a PNM is dropped by a house, it's suggested that she indicate as such in a thank you note to the woman who wrote her that rec. Recruitment counselors have nothing to do with that.

What school does this chick go to?

ComradesTrue 08-07-2008 07:37 PM
I would not put much credence in what you read in that blog. There are multiple errors, and possibly represent one person's experience with her one chapter.

Just as with anything else, you can't always trust what you read on the internet. (except greekchat of course...)

KSUViolet06 08-07-2008 07:50 PM
This is NOT TRUE.

If you think about it, at a big school in the SEC like Ole Miss or Bama, 99% of the girls have recs. The sororities could not possibly invite back EVERY SINGLE girl who has one. It's impossible, since they can only invite back so many women each round.

The part about recruitment counselors is particularly laughable.

Please do not think that your recruitment counselor has the power to do anything if you get cut from a sorority. There is nothing she can do about it.

If you walk up to your recruitment counselor and tell her "I got cut from XYZ, but I have a rec for them, can you tell them that they have to invite me back" she's going to look at you like you're crazy.

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 07:54 PM
These are my favorites so far:

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Panhellenic: This is another name for “Greek” so if you see signs for “Panhellenic Recruitment” this means.. Greek Recruitment.

Legacy: This is a girl who has had a mom, sister, or grandmother in a particular sorority. If my mother was a Delta Nu, I would be a legacy to Delta Nu and therefore would get special attention from the sisters of Delta Nu.

Letter of Recommendation: These are letters written by former sisters of a particular sorority recommending you to a chapter. It doesn’t matter how this woman is related to you or from what school she came from. Letters of Rec are accepted from anyone who was a member of that sorority anywhere in the nation.

Continuous Open Bidding: Some schools with smaller greek systems will offer this throughout the quarter. This is when a chapter can give a PNM a bid after the formal recruitment process is over. For example, if your roommate really wanted to join your sorority, the sisters of delta nu could give her a bid even after sorority rush is over. This is called a COB. This is not very common and does not usually happen at large Greek schools.

VP Recruitment: This is the girl who is the head of recruitment and has lots of say on who gets in and who does not.

KSUViolet06 08-07-2008 07:58 PM
Oh wow. Yeah I would caution PNMs against taking any of that seriously.

HunterJumper 08-07-2008 08:03 PM
Reading those is slightly aggrevating.. I agree with KSUViolet.. PNMs really need to be careful with what they're finding through oh so VERY reliable media..

I went through recruitment as a legacy and every house knew it.

VandalSquirrel 08-07-2008 08:24 PM
Read her recruitment story, she claims to be a legacy to Alpha Phi because her sister in law is a member. Just because a rec is written doesn't mean that a) it is a favorable one b) they received it or care what the alumna thinks or c) that even if there's a good one, it can be canceled out by a NO REC.

The grammar and spelling, not so impressive, neither are the pictures of them in bras at a serenade.

KSUViolet06 08-07-2008 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1692482)
Read her recruitment story, she claims to be a legacy to Alpha Phi because her sister in law is a member.
That's pretty funny.

I can't think of a sorority that counts sisters-in-law as legacies.

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 08:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1692482)
Read her recruitment story, she claims to be a legacy to Alpha Phi because her sister in law is a member. Just because a rec is written doesn't mean that a) it is a favorable one b) they received it or care what the alumna thinks or c) that even if there's a good one, it can be canceled out by a NO REC.

The grammar and spelling, not so impressive, neither are the pictures of them in bras at a serenade.
I don't think this person is even legit. I think this blog's author swiped a bunch of pictures of pretty people off the internet and attempted to write something she thought she knew about.

VandalSquirrel 08-07-2008 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1692490)
I don't think this person is even legit. I think this blog's author swiped a bunch of pictures of pretty people off the internet and attempted to write something she thought she knew about.
I think that should be a warning to people who take pictures and post them online. You can't control it once you put it out there, and even if it was meant to be private or a joke, it will likely not work out that way.

It is blogs like these that can actually hurt some unsuspecting but completely worthy girl in recruitment. The information is mostly incorrect, the terminology is incorrect, and I hope she isn't a creative writing or journalism major.

Who gives it 24 hours for the blog owner, or an anonymous person here saying we're mean and defending it to show up?

dgdramadawg 08-07-2008 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1692486)
That's pretty funny.

I can't think of a sorority that counts sisters-in-law as legacies.
Semi-Off Topic: Do any sororities count in-laws as an influence of any kind, like on the level of a cousin or something? Obviously they're not legacies.

Back to the girl's website: She seems to know very little about what she's talking about, like, to the point that I have to wonder if she is actually in a sorority at all. I mean, in her rush story she has a photo of a group of people and comments disdainfully that she would have had people like them as friends were she not in a sorority.

I hate that people are getting rush advice from blogs like that.

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1692506)
I think that should be a warning to people who take pictures and post them online. You can't control it once you put it out there, and even if it was meant to be private or a joke, it will likely not work out that way.

It is blogs like these that can actually hurt some unsuspecting but completely worthy girl in recruitment. The information is mostly incorrect, the terminology is incorrect, and I hope she isn't a creative writing or journalism major.

Who gives it 24 hours for the blog owner, or an anonymous person here saying we're mean and defending it to show up?
I tried posting a comment or two correcting her, but the comment's "in moderation" -- I get the feeling she won't allow anything on, especially the ones that criticize her blog.

violetpretty 08-07-2008 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1692446)
What school does this chick go to?
UCSB

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1692598)
UCSB
That's what I thought. I knew I saw that staircase somewhere!

nittanyalum 08-07-2008 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by princesspeach (Post 1692434)
Wow, that blogger is a brat.

Unregistered- 08-07-2008 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1692622)
Wow, that blogger is a brat.
...and a notorious picture swiper.

breathesgelatin 08-08-2008 02:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dgdramadawg (Post 1692538)
Semi-Off Topic: Do any sororities count in-laws as an influence of any kind, like on the level of a cousin or something? Obviously they're not legacies.
I can think of some instances where the sister-in-law thing might count for something or get you noticed. For example if the sister-in-law were advisor to the chapter or a national officer, or an alum who'd given a lot of money to the chapter.

I've seen a lot of cases from my own experience where there is a senior in a sorority seriously dating or engaged to a guy, and then his little sister comes to the university and joins the girlfriend/fiancee's chapter.

Those are the only instances I could think of where it would matter. I guess you could always bring it up in recruitment conversations "oh my sister in law was an XYZ and she talks about her great experiences and it got me interested in Greek life and XYZ."

But yeah, not a legacy.

WCsweet<3 08-08-2008 02:24 AM
Just by being on GC for as long as I have been, I can tell that this information is wrong. I am so glad I found GC instead of that blog!!!

VandalSquirrel 08-08-2008 03:35 AM
If the blog giving out free bad advice isn't enough, You could always go here for more information.

http://sororitysnitch.com

For the low, low price of $9.95 you can download everything you need to know for rush. Considering we all call it recruitment now (whether we like it or not), that right there should be a huge sign the information is bad.

Attention all PNMS (that's Potential New Members, ie; women interested in going through the recruitment process to join sororities):

If you come to GreekChat with a good attitude and are open to our advice and suggestions, you will not only have good information, it won't cost you a dime!

Unregistered- 08-08-2008 03:59 AM
^^^

For a second there I thought I had come across a post I left for a n00b that I didn't remember, and then I saw your name instead!

One can only hope that no PNM/parent actually forks over $$$ for this. I would assume that a Google search would bring GC up instead of that stupid website.

Please don't let this one be one of 'us'. HelpMeRush was bad enough! :eek:

princesspeach 08-08-2008 11:55 AM
I thought that blog looked pretty sketchy. Thanks for clearing everything up though! I can't tell you how glad I am that that isn't true!

Unregistered- 08-12-2008 11:53 PM
http://sororitysecrets.wordpress.com/

Check out the most recent posts talking about the bad press.

I'm positive that the blog's author isn't even a sorority member. I think she's just an author trying to be cute by stealing other people's photos off the internet and making it seem like she knows what she's talking about.

epchick 08-13-2008 12:44 AM
She does have a disclaimer though:

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Disclaimer: These definitions are written off the top of my head just from what I know at my particular school. I am writing them here just to give you an idea of what I’m talking about (in case you get confused.) If you want to get all hardcore sorority business on me, check out: www.greekchat.com.

Zillini 08-13-2008 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1692453)
This is NOT TRUE.

If you think about it, at a big school in the SEC like Ole Miss or Bama, 99% of the girls have recs. The sororities could not possibly invite back EVERY SINGLE girl who has one. It's impossible, since they can only invite back so many women each round.
I will attest to that. At Bama we had more PNMs with Recs than Panhellenic allowed us to invite back to 2nd round.

fantASTic 08-13-2008 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sororityblogger (Post 1696434)
Hello everyone! It's me... the "brat" from www.sororitysecrets.wordpress.com. I have read the thread regarding my blog and just wanted to respond to all of the criticisms and concerns.

1. I am a real person in a real sorority. All of those pictures you see of girls? Yes they are mine taken from my camera. The other pictures on the site are taken from google images and are linked to accordingly. So please relax on the picture swiping talk... it sort of hurts my feelings.

2. I deleted the page about the recommendations and legacies and all that business. I am certain that what I wrote on that page is the protocol at my particular university but I never realized so many people would freak out over getting information that was different from their own. My apologies. I write this blog only to help. Also, why would I waste my time writing about a sorority if I weren't in one?

3. I appreciate all of your concerns so please feel free to email me directly or post comments on my blog. If I am misinformed about something... enlighten me! I am more than happy to hear your feedback directly on my blog... not on some forum. Your information is important to me.

4. I wrote this on my blog a number of times but I shall reiterate it once again. I am writing this blog as a member of a sorority- not an adviser or rush coach or anything like that. I love giving advice to my friends at home on college and rush and life in general so I figured... why not blog about it? I write this blog as if i were giving this advice to my little sister.. so please please keep this in mind when reading. Thanks so much. I hope everyone is still as excited for rush as I am!! YAY!
Just wanted to quote this, seeing as you're editing right now.

VandalSquirrel 08-13-2008 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1696456)
Just wanted to quote this, seeing as you're editing right now.
If you didn't QFP I'd never have known she had been here as it has been BALEETED!

jwright25 08-13-2008 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1696456)
Just wanted to quote this, seeing as you're editing right now.
You are gooooooood!

Unregistered- 08-13-2008 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1696523)
If you didn't QFP I'd never have known she had been here as it has been BALEETED!
Banned as well.

Quote:
So, in between pretending to work, getting my virtual butt kicked, and breakfast, I have had little time to ponder what I am going to write about today. I’m glad that some of you enjoyed the post from yesterday. Rushing is super duper important and all, but at the end of the day aren’t we going to college to learn? Today I am feeling a little… crestfallen (if you will) about some of the smack talking going on but I will persevere and continue to post.
Aww. Poor baby.

nittanyalum 08-13-2008 04:48 PM
See this thread: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=98716

And L.O.freakin'L., check her site now, the flickr pictures are gone, now just the 3 pictures (of all different GLOs) are there with credit to "googleimages" AND SHE ENCOURAGES EVERYONE TO GO VISIT HPRL FOR GREEK ADVICE. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah, she or he is for sure a perp.

Unregistered- 08-13-2008 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1696596)
See this thread: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=98716

And L.O.freakin'L., check her site now, the flickr pictures are gone, now just the 3 pictures (of all different GLOs) are there with credit to "googleimages" AND SHE ENCOURAGES EVERYONE TO GO VISIT HPRL FOR GREEK ADVICE. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah, she or he is for sure a perp.
They'll go to HPRL for advice, then they'll get a PM from their resident perv (according to HPRL spies), get creeped out (according to HPRL spies), and stop posting (according to HPRL spies). FOR REAL.

nittanyalum 08-13-2008 05:13 PM
This is the blogger:
Quote:
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/1286d...=identicon&r=G You're Going to College!!!!
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antoniakelly wrote 23 hours ago: Hello there my beautiful potential new members. I was rather distraught by the somewhat bad press I … more →
That name is also what's attached to the responses when people leave comments -- google that name, if it's the same person, she's a serial blogger. (read: PERP)

Unregistered- 08-13-2008 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1696626)
This is the blogger:
[b]

That name is also what's attached to the responses when people leave comments -- google that name, if it's the same person, she's a serial blogger. (read: PERP)
YEP, that's what I got, too. That led me to believe that the entire blog's a work of fiction.

KSUViolet06 08-13-2008 05:19 PM
The woman attached to that name has at least 10 blogs. I don't know, I don't buy for one second that she's a member of any NPC group.

nittanyalum 08-13-2008 05:23 PM
From one of the many places she's registered:
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Antoniakelly
antoniakelly is a 23 year old woman from Leicester, England, UK.

Unregistered- 08-13-2008 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1696633)
From one of the many places she's registered:
'Antonia Kelly' posted a comment, lol.

(I'd post the link here, but that trick don't need anymore advertising)

nittanyalum 08-13-2008 06:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1696675)
'Antonia Kelly' posted a comment, lol.

(I'd post the link here, but that trick don't need anymore advertising)
BAHhahahahahahahahahaha.

Such a sad little wannabe.


ETA: DGTess piped in with her support of the perp and bashed GCers. Ha.

epchick 08-13-2008 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1696695)
ETA: DGTess piped in with her support of the perp and bashed GCers. Ha.
So she's trying to backtrack. She said she lied when she said "each and every regular member" and said "i mean many." I wonder which 'regular' members PMed her so that they wouldn't get lumped into TEH AWESOMENESS of us "snarkier" members.

I guess "antoniakelly" has been looking on GC cause she made this comment:

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antoniakelly on August 13, 2008 said:
HAHAHAH!!!! These people think I am a 23 year old woman from England tee hee.


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