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Kedzman 06-28-2008 01:43 PM

Worst Composite Ever
 
This co-ed fraternity at Brown University used to be part of Zeta Phi (Zete) but went local some years ago. Now they are Zeta Delta Xi...

http://www.zete.org/images/composite.jpg

http://www.zete.org/images/composite.jpg

AlwaysSAI 06-28-2008 01:56 PM

I actually think it's cute. No, it's not the normal composite you see, but it shows character and careful planning. You can't pull something like that together out of your ass.

I give them props for continuing their tradition of challenging norms.

Elephant Walk 06-28-2008 02:15 PM

It's only terrible because I would refuse to be associated with the grand amount of unattractive people on the composite.

banditone 06-28-2008 02:24 PM

ohh come on EW. there are a couple doable's in there.

nate2512 06-28-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by banditone (Post 1673933)
ohh come on EW. there are a couple doable's in there.

maybe if im hammered, and wasn't aware they associated themselves with such a reject club.

Elephant Walk 06-28-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditone (Post 1673933)
ohh come on EW. there are a couple doable's in there.

That Siahem Abed girl is kind of cute in the Rebecca Logan way.

nate2512 06-28-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI (Post 1673929)
I actually think it's cute. No, it's not the normal composite you see, but it shows character and careful planning. You can't pull something like that together out of your ass.

I give them props for continuing their tradition of challenging norms.

Are you kidding, planning? maybe, hey lets take dumbass pictures and make our composite look like shit.

I'm a little OCD though, I like everyone in the composite to facing the same direction, and wearing the same thing.

nittanyalum 06-28-2008 03:27 PM

First of all, it's Brown.

Second of all... it's Brown.

Extra points to Kurt Cobain, though. Bet he was a heckuva pledge master.

tld221 06-28-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1673941)
Are you kidding, planning? maybe, hey lets take dumbass pictures and make our composite look like shit.

I'm a little OCD though, I like everyone in the composite to facing the same direction, and wearing the same thing.

is this where we drone about the south and tradition? damn the north and their thinking out the box.

its their money and their chapter. let them do what they want. and ive never known any chapter to win awards for "Best Composite Ever." and at least their photographer called them back and didnt haul ass with their $$. cant say the same for some of yall, huh?

KSUViolet06 06-28-2008 05:06 PM

I'm a bit OCD so the lack of uniformity drives me nuts (and I would go nuts if my chapter had even thought to do this), but LOL @ their nicknames:

Resident Grandpa
Bar Chair Emeritus
Resident Mermaid

nate2512 06-28-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1673961)
is this where we drone about the south and tradition? damn the north and their thinking out the box.

its their money and their chapter. let them do what they want. and ive never known any chapter to win awards for "Best Composite Ever." and at least their photographer called them back and didnt haul ass with their $$. cant say the same for some of yall, huh?

did i say anything about the south in the post?

don't 99% of northern chapters take professional looking composites as well?

EE-BO 06-28-2008 06:57 PM

Worst composite ever? Sounds like someone lost a frattack yesterday in the fraternity rush forum and now wants to take aim at another bunch of GLOs.

Not something I or my chapter would ever do, but I think this composite is great. I am willing to bet that everyone in that composite will look at it 10 years from now and smile just as I do when I look at my old composites with everyone in coat and tie looking off in the same direction.

One thing about one of the captions in there- anyone know what a Fooz Breasticle is?

CrackerBarrel 06-28-2008 07:20 PM

I think Stephanie Paris is wearing nothing but a scarf.

It's a damn funny composite, just some trolls on it. Certainly not the worst, that composite would be worse if it was that same group of fuglys all in blazers and bowties. Clearly not a great group in the traditional sense of the word, but funny composite at least.

Kevlar281 06-28-2008 07:44 PM

The Gamma chapter of Pi Kappa Phi at UC Berkeley has a tradition of requiring actives to wear a tuxedo for their first composite photo after that they can do/wear whatever they want. Lets just say it has made for some interesting composites; this is pretty tame compared to what I saw when I visited Gamma.

AlwaysSAI 06-28-2008 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kedzman (Post 1673927)
This co-ed fraternity at Brown University used to be part of Zeta Phi (Zete) but went local some years ago. Now they are Zeta Delta Xi...

Correction, they used to be apart of Zeta Psi, not Zeta Phi.

honeychile 06-28-2008 10:44 PM

Speechless.

ClassicUNC 06-28-2008 11:47 PM

This is not just a weird Brown phenomenon. Chi Psi at UNC all dress up as 'characters' on their composites. So even in the South at a big chapter (not the greatest, but certainly not the worst) this type of behavior can be seen.

I know some of you said that you were OCD about having everyone at the same angle and with the same tie/accessories. We did that one year in my chapter... ended up being the least interesting composite ever. To me there is an optimal level somewhere between this Zete composite and the OCD ones.

breathesgelatin 06-29-2008 12:35 AM

To the OP:

Why hate on other people for having fun?

Gee, I wonder what this chapter's GPA and leadership skills are?

Hm, better yet, I wonder what their those stats look like compared to NIU's. :rolleyes:

tld221 06-29-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1673979)
did i say anything about the south in the post?

don't 99% of northern chapters take professional looking composites as well?

its called sarcasm. take a chill pill.

indygphib 06-29-2008 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1674061)
To the OP:

Why hate on other people for having fun?

Exactly. I think this composite is pretty funny myself.

rhochi2002 06-29-2008 01:08 PM

I think it is cute. very art school.

Benzgirl 06-29-2008 02:18 PM

I agree with NittanyAlum....It's Brown! And, I love the composite.

I remember digging up (or should I say "dusting off") some sorority composites from the 70s and they were along the same line. Kudos for originality!

Kedzman 06-29-2008 03:10 PM

It is certainly creative. And it is certainly original. Not taking away from creativity or originality. I also think it is entertaining. All that being said, this is not the kind of organization I would have wanted to be a part of when I was an undergraduate (to each his own) and I would be very disappointed in my chapter if they decided to go this route.

I'll also go on to say that I am eghast that this chapter decided to go co-ed. Makes me think they were perhaps struggling as an organization to have made a move like this. I can't imagine one of the top groups at any school deciding to go co-ed. What's the point? That's why you mix with sororites and pair with them for various events. Going co-ed completely changes the atmosphere and culture of a fraternal organization.

ClassicUNC 06-29-2008 04:38 PM

Kedzman:

I think you'd be surprised how many chapters at schools went coed in the 60s and 70s. Successful chapters at "fratty" schools. It happened. Many HQs came in making threats, suspending charters changing the dynamic back to what it is today.

These chapters weren't initiating women because they were unsuccessful or it affected their ability to mix. It was just the times. Just as not every chapter of a fraternity at every school is the same, not all chapters are static throughout time.

Kedzman 06-29-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ClassicUNC (Post 1674296)
Kedzman:

I think you'd be surprised how many chapters at schools went coed in the 60s and 70s. Successful chapters at "fratty" schools. It happened. Many HQs came in making threats, suspending charters changing the dynamic back to what it is today.

These chapters weren't initiating women because they were unsuccessful or it affected their ability to mix. It was just the times. Just as not every chapter of a fraternity at every school is the same, not all chapters are static throughout time.

That is interesting to me. Do you have some other examples? I don't have anything to compare it to. This never happened to a SN chapter as far as I know.

There is an interesting history of co-ed groups on the Alpha Delta Phi (Brown University) website here... http://www.brown.edu/Students/Alpha_...story/coed.php

aephi alum 06-29-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kedzman (Post 1674317)
That is interesting to me. Do you have some other examples? I don't have anything to compare it to. This never happened to a SN chapter as far as I know.

There is an interesting history of co-ed groups on the Alpha Delta Phi (Brown University) website here... http://www.brown.edu/Students/Alpha_...story/coed.php

The Sigma Nu chapter at MIT decided to go coed in 1970. They disaffiliated with the national fraternity and adopted their chapter designation, Epsilon Theta, as their name. Sigma Nu has since recolonized; the chapter was rechartered in 1995.

The same thing happened with the MIT chapter of Pi Kappa Alpha in 1975. They went coed, disaffiliated from the national fraternity, and now go by pika.

And the same thing happened with the MIT chapter of Sigma Alpha Mu. They went coed, disaffiliated from the national fraternity in 1973, and now call themselves Fenway House.

TDX89 06-29-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1673957)
First of all, it's Brown.

Second of all... it's Brown.

Extra points to Kurt Cobain, though. Bet he was a heckuva pledge master.

dont judge some weird co-ed frat by its school. the TDX charge in Brown is the Brown football team and is a group of guys that you wouldnt want to mess with lol.

Elephant Walk 06-29-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClassicUNC (Post 1674051)
This is not just a weird Brown phenomenon. Chi Psi at UNC all dress up as 'characters' on their composites. So even in the South at a big chapter (not the greatest, but certainly not the worst) this type of behavior can be seen.

I know some of you said that you were OCD about having everyone at the same angle and with the same tie/accessories. We did that one year in my chapter... ended up being the least interesting composite ever. To me there is an optimal level somewhere between this Zete composite and the OCD ones.

Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?

Niedermeyer 06-29-2008 10:11 PM

""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

crashtheparty 06-29-2008 10:12 PM

I love this! We also do composites in a different way, we take them ourselves and have a theme (which I'm not going to share over the internet) that is consistent over the years. After, we each sign the bottom of our own picture, and I have to say that I value these pictures that show character alot more than formal pictures. To each their own though, and I can definitely see the value in having a very nice formal composite, and I wouldn't mind having one formal composite in addition to our traditional one.

Kedzman 06-29-2008 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niedermeyer (Post 1674388)
""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.


How is the "big 4" defined? Do the chapters within the big 4 ever change, or is it constant? What's the history behind that?

Elephant Walk 06-29-2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niedermeyer (Post 1674388)
""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

I knew Beta and Phi Gam were up there, but weren't sure of any of the others.

Niedermeyer 06-29-2008 10:51 PM

Unfortunately, I don't know any history or facts relating to the big 4 fraternities at UNC. However, I do know several alumni from Carolina. They all say Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam make up the big 4. Sorry I can't eloborate.

ClassicUNC 06-29-2008 11:42 PM

The Big Four is DKE, PhiGam, PhiDelt and Beta.. however it really isn't the "Big Four" anymore; most consider Beta to have slipped a little bit. There is no movement into the Big Four. I won't mention which chapter I am an alumnus of so I won't appear to have a bias.

Having said that, from my understanding the Greek scene at UNC is thriving now more than at any point in the past twenty years. There are other fraternities outside of the Big Four, that I would have rushed today but did not consider ten years ago. I can point to a big turning point in UNC Greek life. After the PhiGam disaster of '96 the University forced all houses to have sprinkler systems installed by 2001. Installing the systems in 100 year old houses wasn't easy and so virtually every house was renovated. Many houses were shut down (not the fraternity but the house) for one to two years; many at the same time. From 2000 til about 2004 many houses were struggling, but not so today. Walking through the houses this year (I'm a few years removed but toured several houses) and meeting a lot of brothers I feel safe to say there are currently about 10 (~1/2 of the total) solid houses to consider. Again when I pledged/rushed I only considered two.

But, back on topic... I can think of several UNC fraternities that at one point initiated women. St. Anthony's hall of course is still pretty similar to the picture of the Brown fraternity; they are an outlier on the Greek scene. Also Lambda Chi at one point, I believe had female brothers; I don't know how good that chapter is now but their house is a beautiful carolina blue. Pi Lamb definitely had women (I saw a composite or two in their bathroom containing ladies); from what I've seen and heard they are a good chapter. I believe several of the "golf course" fraternities went this way too: ZBT, Delta Sig and PKP. I think these have all folded/maybe went local.

ClassicUNC 06-29-2008 11:46 PM

For those asking about Chi Psi at UNC.. no it's not "Big Four", but it's a very respectable chapter. Beautiful house on the largest piece of property. From what I understand, Chi Psi is the largest private land owner in Chapel Hill (i.e. not the University). But, they do dress like the Wizard of Oz in the composites. It's just their tradition.

breathesgelatin 06-30-2008 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kedzman (Post 1674275)
It is certainly creative. And it is certainly original. Not taking away from creativity or originality. I also think it is entertaining. All that being said, this is not the kind of organization I would have wanted to be a part of when I was an undergraduate (to each his own) and I would be very disappointed in my chapter if they decided to go this route.

I'll also go on to say that I am eghast that this chapter decided to go co-ed. Makes me think they were perhaps struggling as an organization to have made a move like this. I can't imagine one of the top groups at any school deciding to go co-ed. What's the point? That's why you mix with sororites and pair with them for various events. Going co-ed completely changes the atmosphere and culture of a fraternal organization.

You claim to be so familiar with the operations of Greek organizations, yet you've never heard of the movement within some chapters and schools to go co-ed?? That's a pretty significant part of GLO history and still has a LOT to do with why Greek orgs aren't recognized on some campuses.

As far as the "Zete" chapter at Brown goes, I don't see why you'd be embarrassed to associate with them. Given that you've already stated that you judge Greek orgs based on GPA and leadership, I am willing to bet that 100% of their members had better records of GPA and leadership and overall achievement than did the members of your NIU Sigma Nu chapter.

I'm sorry, I'm not normally one to be like this, but you have really rubbed me the wrong way with your judgmental and contradictory comments on this boards. I'm AGHAST.

Low C Sharp 06-30-2008 11:08 AM

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All that being said, this is not the kind of organization I would have wanted to be a part of when I was an undergraduate
Funny, that's how I felt about NIU.
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RaggedyAnn 06-30-2008 11:27 AM

This is a very appropriate composite for the campus atmosphere. The school is right across the street from RI School of Design and the east side of Providence is well, eclectic to say the least. For them to take a picture in a shirt and tie would probably be the equivalent of a joke composite to most people. Most students wear alternative/crunchy/oatmeal type clothing on a regular basis. Nose rings, ear plugs and dreads are not uncommon either-no matter what your race.

Niedermeyer 06-30-2008 12:39 PM

I have a bit of an inside track on Chi Psi as my dad is a Carolina Chi Psi. My mother is a Carolina Alpha Delta Pi. Carolina Chi Psi is hands down the stronget Chi Psi chapter nationally.

Chi Psi is arguably, all around, one of the strongest fraternities at UNC. They may not be the most popular as viewed by other campus greeks, but they have tremendous alumni support in terms of both financial and support given. Multiple recent Rhodes Scholars, Phi Beta Kappas and student government presidents. Far, Far more than any other UNC chapter. Giant (approximately 6 acre) property with amazing huge house. Located on W Cameron a little bit away from the other houses on campus.

Beta is the second largest property on the UNC campus. Beautiful house as well. About 4.5 acres of land and located on S Columbia next to big fraternity court. Five houses are located in big fraternity court. The Beta's property is about 3/4 the size of all the land under big fraternity court. Beta has a party barn in the far back corner of their property.

Chi Psi and Beta are, by a fairly significant margin, the largest fraternity properties at Carolina. Some would argue Beta's property could be as valuable than Chi Psi's because it is located directly across the street from campus and is closer to Franklin street.

The remaining fraternity properties at UNC are also very, very nice. However, Chi Psi and Beta stand out way ahead of everyone else because of the sheer size of the land their houses sit on.

This opinion based on my recent visit to Chapel Hill. I walked and looked at every fraternity and sorority house on campus.

RU OX Alum 06-30-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaggedyAnn (Post 1674538)
Most students wear alternative/crunchy/oatmeal type clothing on a regular basis. Nose rings, ear plugs and dreads are not uncommon either-no matter what your race.

i know what alternative and i think i'm clear on the meaning of crunchy, but what is oatmeal clothing?


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