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KCsunshinec44 06-17-2008 10:31 PM

throw what you know!
 
Hey guys! As a PNM i have contemplated what my new sororities symbol will be, with the always adorable hand gesture. Personally i adore the Zeta crown and Kappa Delta KD! Which would you throw if you werent already representing your amazing sorority?!

Elephant Walk 06-17-2008 10:38 PM

the middle finger?

epchick 06-17-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669519)
Hey guys! As a PNM i have contemplated what my new sororities symbol will be, with the always adorable hand gesture. Personally i adore the Zeta crown and Kappa Delta KD! Which would you throw if you werent already representing your amazing sorority?!

Really? Are you kidding?

I suggest that as a PNM, you worry less about what hand gesture you'll be using, and more about the important things...like recruitment. You aren't in yet.

KCsunshinec44 06-17-2008 10:46 PM

lol!

KSUViolet06 06-17-2008 10:48 PM

This question is really stupid, especially since you're not even IN a sorority. Recruitment is about mutual selection, so there's no guarantee that there will be a "new sorority hand sign" to speak of. You have to be kidding.

aephi alum 06-17-2008 10:49 PM

<puts on recruitment counselor hat>

Based on your post, I assume you are interested in joining an NPC sorority. If so, you must first enroll in a 4-year college with NPC sorority chapters in existence. You must then go through the NPC recruitment process. It's best to keep an open mind throughout recruitment.

Or, if you choose to enroll in a 4-year college and (a) there are no NPC sororities or (b) you don't match with an existing NPC chapter, you can try to bring a new NPC sorority to campus. This is a long and difficult process; I speak from firsthand experience.

In any case, a sorority is much, much more than just a hand sign.

tld221 06-17-2008 10:50 PM

and its july. recruitment hasnt started. so are you a Potential PNM?

that's one for the books: being a PPNM.

Unregistered- 06-17-2008 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1669536)
This question is really stupid, especially since you're not even IN a sorority. Recruitment is about mutual selection, so there's no guarantee that there will be a "new sorority hand sign" to speak of.




Not only that, not all chapters "throw down the handsigns". What might be cool to one chapter may be unheard of or even questionable to other chapters.

KCsunshinec44 06-17-2008 10:52 PM

i have already registered and plan to rush in fall. i understand a sorority is a lot more than their symbol but i thought it would be cute/silly to ask, i guess not :/

KSUViolet06 06-17-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1669539)
Not only that, not all chapters "throw down the handsigns". What might be cool to one chapter may be unheard of or even questionable to other chapters.


True, there are chapters of my sorority in NY that do a handsign, but if you went to one of our chapters in LA or NC and did it, they'd look at you like you were the tackiest person on the planet.

KCsunshinec44: You need to bring it down a notch, because honestly, recruitment is not a guaranteed process and discussing "what your new sororities symbol will be" and handsigns is a tad presumptuous because as it has been noted, you have yet to go through recruitment or receive a bid.


epchick 06-17-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669543)
i have already registered and plan to rush in fall. i understand a sorority is a lot more than their symbol but i thought it would be cute/silly to ask, i guess not :/

First of all, i believe there is a thread about handsigns already.

Second, what we are talking about is the fact that you said your "new sorority" which implies that you know you're getting in. Like people have stated recruitment is mutual selection, and you might not get into ANY sorority.

Being presumptious this early isn't a good thing.

icelandelf 06-17-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669543)
i have already registered and plan to rush in fall. i understand a sorority is a lot more than their symbol but i thought it would be cute/silly to ask, i guess not :/

KCSunshine, as others have mentioned in previous threads, you never know who might be reading your posts. While you may have thought it would be cute/silly, it comes across as presumptuous (sp?) and shallow to ask about an "adorable" hand gesture. Some may not think them very adorable. Bottom line--Be careful what you post!
I'm sure you're very excited about upcoming recruitment and I wish you the best of luckthis Fall! :)

KCsunshinec44 06-17-2008 11:03 PM

at my school its almost positive every rushee gets in. granted it may not be one you like but still you get in. calm down.

AlwaysSAI 06-17-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669551)
at my school its almost positive every rushee gets in. granted it may not be one you like but still you get in. calm down.

*cough*....there are exceptions to every rule.....*cough*

nittanyalum 06-17-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669551)
at my school its almost positive every rushee gets in. granted it may not be one you like but still you get in. calm down.

Whoa. Bad idea. I recommend ratcheting the 'tude back a bit if you plan on continuing to ask for advice and information here. Tides turn quick 'round here sometimes.


ETA: LOL at Always! :)

KSUViolet06 06-17-2008 11:14 PM

I'm sure some sorority members at your school would be interested in knowing that you're saying "everyone gets in" and which sorority handsigns you like. All it really takes is one girl from your school to see this, think "wtf is this girl talking about" figure out who you are and it's a done deal. Just sayin'. It's happened before. No, I'm not kidding or exaggerating. A girl came here posting the same stupid type things and got SHUT DOWN at a school in FL. I'm sure she thought the internet was totally anonymous, and the school she went to was not a really competitive school either.

We don't say stuff just to creep people people out or be bitchy. We say this because it's true.

tld221 06-17-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1669548)
Being presumptious this early isn't a good thing.

Seriously. Look how long it took Barack to become the presumptive Democratic nominee. :D

Unregistered- 06-17-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669551)
at my school its almost positive every rushee gets in. granted it may not be one you like but still you get in. calm down.

There's a reason why it's "almost" and not "always".

Sororities don't have to take every PNM that walks through the door. Thank God for that.

CrackerBarrel 06-17-2008 11:45 PM

Go to the fraternity recruitment forum and read the thread about rushing at Texas by UTLonghorn2012. He presumed he was headed for a top-tier house, talked all about it on the internet and may well end up lower-middle tier because of it. Don't assume and certainly don't talk big.

And I like the DG anchor salute.

icelandelf 06-18-2008 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669551)
at my school its almost positive every rushee gets in. granted it may not be one you like but still you get in. calm down.

Oh Good Grief :rolleyes:

PenguinTrax 06-18-2008 08:27 AM

The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.

UGAalum94 06-18-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1669675)
The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.

Why is that?

baci 06-18-2008 08:56 AM

LOL, I am glad you asked^^ Hee hee.

Elephant Walk 06-18-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1669675)
The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.

That isn't the case on my campus certainly.

WinniBug 06-18-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1669675)
The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.


We dont' have a ZTA on our campus, what does it look like?
We have a phoenix that we do sometimes for pictures.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...06827_9070.jpg

CrackerBarrel 06-18-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WinniBug (Post 1669708)
We dont' have a ZTA on our campus, what does it look like?
We have a phoenix that we do sometimes for pictures.

Make an "ok" sign with each hand. Now interlock the two loops that your thumbs and index fingers make. Touch the tips of your middle fingers above the loops, and spread out the rest of your fingers. Should like kind of like a tiara.

nittanyalum 06-18-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1669716)
Make an "ok" sign with each hand. Now interlock the two loops that your thumbs and index fingers make. Touch the tips of your middle fingers above the loops, and spread out the rest of your fingers. Should like kind of like a tiara.

That makes more sense than what I was imagining. I was thinking maybe they just hold up one hand and spread the fingers/thumb out to make a 5-pointed crown. :p

ree-Xi 06-18-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCsunshinec44 (Post 1669519)
Hey guys! As a PNM i have contemplated what my new sororities symbol will be, with the always adorable hand gesture. Personally i adore the Zeta crown and Kappa Delta KD! Which would you throw if you werent already representing your amazing sorority?!

I must be too old to play this game, bc in AXiD, we didn't do handsigns. There was no "repping" of any sort, other than pledges wearing their pins, their pledge shirts on Tuesdays, sisters wearing letters any day, and Thursday's "Colors or Letters Day".

In Gamma Sig, pledges always wore pins, and once a week was Colors or Letters day.

AlphaXi_Husky 06-18-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1669792)
I must be too old to play this game, bc in AXiD, we didn't do handsigns. There was no "repping" of any sort, other than pledges wearing their pins, their pledge shirts on Tuesdays, sisters wearing letters any day, and Thursday's "Colors or Letters Day".

I have started to see some chapters of AXiD do hand signs. Don't know where it came from or what chapter started it, though.

MaggieXi 06-18-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1669792)
I must be too old to play this game, bc in AXiD, we didn't do handsigns. There was no "repping" of any sort, other than pledges wearing their pins, their pledge shirts on Tuesdays, sisters wearing letters any day, and Thursday's "Colors or Letters Day".

In Gamma Sig, pledges always wore pins, and once a week was Colors or Letters day.

Alpha Xi does have a hand sign. Some campuses use it, some do not. I don't know if HQ has an officially stance on it though. Its pretty simple, cross your index finger on each hand to make an X and hold yo your right pinky to make the i - you have a Xi.

http://www.profilepants.com/combine/...ImageID=228891

Unregistered- 06-18-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1669675)
The ZTA crown 'hand sign' is strongly discouraged by our IHQ and most chapters have backed away from using it over the last couple of years.

I wouldn't be surprised if other NPC I/HQs felt the same way.

If my Founders didn't do a handsign, I don't want it.

KSUViolet06 06-18-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1669950)
I wouldn't be surprised if other NPC I/HQs felt the same way.

If my Founders didn't do a handsign, I don't want it.

Ours feels the same way. In our photo submission guidelines for the Triangle, several "handsigns" are listed as what NOT to do in your photo if you want it to get printed.

UGAalum94 06-18-2008 04:12 PM

It just surprises me that it's something that anyone would take a stand on. It seems like something that would be around a while and then kind of die out on its own.

I'm not as strict as OTW about only using stuff our founders did, I guess, although I would think it was weird if we adopted an official hand sign.

Unregistered- 06-18-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1669956)
It just surprises me that it's something that anyone would take a stand on. It seems like something that would be around a while and then kind of die out on its own.

I'm not as strict as OTW about only using stuff our founders did, I guess, although I would think it was weird if we adopted an official hand sign.

I meant that only in regards to handsigns.

I understand the need to adapt to society changes, but a freaking handsign? Gimme a break.

APhi4Ever 06-18-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1669950)
If my Founders didn't do a handsign, I don't want it.

Agreed:)

UGAalum94 06-18-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1669959)
I meant that only in regards to handsigns.

I understand the need to adapt to society changes, but a freaking handsign? Gimme a break.

Well, as I said, it'd be weird if we formally adopted one, but it also doesn't seem like something to actively try to suppress. I just see it as a trend that will come and go. I could see warning people about photo submissions just because it wouldn't be visually interesting to see every photo of a group doing the same thing.

And, here's the real thing, I wonder if the interest in shutting it down has to do with a perception of it being ghetto more than inauthentic. I didn't see a big concern about authenticity when people were getting a bunch of Vera Bradley lettered stuff. Not you, OTW, but just generally in terms of the powers that be in each organization.

(Not that there wouldn't be a legitimate source of concern about branding on some level, since I think most chapters probably picked up the idea from trying to make up fake suburban gang signs to flash, but it seems like the NPHC groups have a long traditions with signs, and I kind of like it when we adopt stuff from the Divine Nine.

ETA: one the other hand, I could get behind an IHQ rule that simply said "We refuse to be pathetically late adopters of any cultural trend; therefore, be it resolved that no chapter will display hand signs or use any recruitment slogan or humorous sign that's clearly beyond its prime.")

ree-Xi 06-18-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieXi (Post 1669845)
Alpha Xi does have a hand sign. Some campuses use it, some do not. I don't know if HQ has an officially stance on it though. Its pretty simple, cross your index finger on each hand to make an X and hold yo your right pinky to make the i - you have a Xi.

http://www.profilepants.com/combine/...ImageID=228891

I said, "we didn't" back when I was a pledge, which was a long time ago. :cool:

In any case, I have recently seen pics with the "Xi" sign.

SmartBlondeGPhB 06-18-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 1669537)
In any case, a sorority is much, much more than just a hand sign.

Especially if you don't have one...........:D

AlwaysSAI 06-18-2008 07:04 PM

A few years ago an SAI chapter proposed a hand sign. They went through all the appropriate levels; first showing it to advisors, then to the Province Officer, and eventually proposing it to the NEB. The NEB approved the hand sign, so it is condoned by Headquarters, but they are not going to incorporate it into our ritual--thank god.

The way I understand it is--you're supposed to be able to see the Sigma, Alpha, and Iota all in the one hand sign.

As soon as photobucket it back working, I'll upload a picture.

PenguinTrax 06-18-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1669679)
Why is that?

Because the crown has a deep and lasting meaning for ZTAs and handsigns are not part of our heritage. I know many alumnae that view it as disrespectful. Our magazine, Themis, will no longer print pictures of members gesturing that way, either.


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