Fifty things you didn't know about John McCain
 

http://www.experienceproject.com/uw.php?e=154369

McCain is 5'7" tall

After six weeks in the prison hospital, his hair turned its now-famous white.

On Christmas Eve 1968, the North Vietnamese staged a false church service as a media event for photographers and film cameras. McCain famously defined his captors instructions to be quiet and loudly yelled 'Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you, you son of a biiitch!' and flipped off the camera whenever it was pointed at him.

I guess that explains why his arms look short...heh....

After flying 22 more bombing missions without incident, McCain's plane was hit over central Hanoi. He broke both arms and one leg after being hit and ejecting from his plane.

17 thru 34(?) is all about him in Vietnam....and there are so many stories similar to his...why would that blogger think that it's something we need to know?

Bottom line is...since it happens to so many more (many of lesser rank) why should I care about it happening to McCain?

Because John McCain is the one running for President.

This list is supposed to appeal to certain people, just as every "list" for every candidate is supposed to appeal to certain people. Make the candidates look more human. Appeal to the masses who admire things beyond a candidate's platform.

Three examples of lists that include interesting facts with other facts that some may not care about. None of them include military service, of course:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...obamafacts.htm
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/...lle-obama.html
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...intonfacts.htm

Oh...well I guess I don't give a shyte about McCain's military career then...go figger.

And there's your bias. :p

I'm sure you'd be all over a list of Obama's top Baskin Robbins flavors. Not like every human doesn't have top ice cream flavors, so what's the big deal. :)

No...not really.

But..those 50 things about McCain doesn't really give me a compelling argument as to why i should vote for him, what issues he plans on dealing with and so on...yes...he was a guy that had some really FUBAR situations....and?

Uh...yeah...I was speaking figuratively.

DaemonSeid...the list isn't for YOU or anyone else who doesn't like McCain. You won't change your mind if McCain was Mother Theresa's mentor. I already said that such lists appeal to certain people. :)

The fact that the President is also Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces means that Military experience (or lack thereof) is something relevent to consider when making a Presidential vote.

Not really....

Let's see...Clinton and Reagan really didn't have any military experience, for that matter, neither did FDR...

Bush's military record is negligible...

yet, they made it in office and all of the above mentioned had 2 terms.

actually...if he was....then that would be something to consider.

LOL

Daemon, from some of the things I've read lately....is there a reason you are so casually dismissive of his military career? Whether or not you like the guy (I like him as a person, not so much as a candidate...along with the other two fails), I think his service and actions are something to be deeply respected. The fact that you would say you don't give a shit about his military career is a little disturbing to be completely honest.

That doesn't mean military experience isn't a relevant thing to consider. At all.

Mac, as I have said before, I am more concerned as to what he plans to do in the here and now. I am tired of hearing about him being a POW and what he suffered thru...that is history.

And so far, some of those gaffes that he has had don't play too well with all the military accolades he has been given.

So as it stands for me, that was then, you were in a bad situation, fine...you were called a hero for making it...fine...

BUT...

what do you plan on right now doing about:

- The War

- Rising costs of living

- Declining Education

- Dealing with Foreign powers

- Immigration

- Global warming

- Trade and commerce


That's what is important, not how badly he was treated in 'nam.

I have an uncle that can tell you the same stories...

the point is, let's not parade it around like it's the most important thing you need to become POTUS.
If that is a requirement then a lot of people need not run for office!

Daemon......it's a trivial blog about facts you may not know about John McCain. Nothing more. Nothing less. This isn't a campaign piece sent out by the GOP to sway voters. Obviously, this wasn't intended FOR YOU. You're acting like he sent this out himself.

Stop being such a Debbie Downer.....you and your boy Obama should pack a stiff bowl and mellow out!!!!

Agreed, for sure.

Under this logic, literally anything can be dismissed as "history" because it's not here-and-now . . . everything from Senate experience ("she's acting on her own, so legislative body experience is just that . . . history") to education ("You really think he remembers all those Harvard classes from decades ago?") to doing blow off a stripper's ass ("Let's talk about today, not the past - I'm tired of hearing about him doing blow off hookers.").

Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...

again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!

now that's good advice that everybody can follow

haha...he gave you the homeboy dismissal, Daemonseid.

He got me but he knows I don't pay him any mind....hehehe!!!


Anywho....

1 fact you all should know about our current President.

He is the lowest ranked officer to have ever served as POTUS and tied with his father at that.

But what's his favorite ice cream flavor? That's the stuff that really interests me.

Well, let's see, maybe because we're at war right now, and probably still will be when the next President takes office.

Pralines and Cream.

With the exception of FDR and Bush...we weren't at war when most of those 2 term presidents were in office (unless you count the Cold War and Reagan, otherwise there was no actual combat.) so what exactly are you driving at?

(Toss Nixon in for Vietnam...but he had military experience and not a part of who I mentioned)

His military experience is going shape his war time choices much more than his experience in the Senate. With all the big deal being made about the Obama-McCain veterans bill situation, his military experience will have a lot to do with his policies.

Yummmm.

Daemon, you don't think during a time of war people might, just maybe, for the hell of it, for shits and giggles, perhaps..........be drawn towards a candidate with a great deal of military experience?

I am going to get some right now...

No joke...

If it was a war that the majority of the population was behind and supported...sure....

Is the public opinion on the state of affairs in Iraq relevant to this discussion? Regardless if people are backing operations in the Middle East, it's still a time of war and John McCain is a deeply experience military leader.

I think it is.

Look at it this way...if there wasn't a war right now an dthe only thing on the minds of the American public was domestic policy...I would believe that McCain's war record would be irrelevant to his running for POTUS.

Look at the last election.

Kerry vs Bush and how the whole issue about their record in part was what bogged down Kerry's campaign.

Look at Bush vs Gore...

Did military record come up?

I honestly don't believe it mattered at the time due to the fact that we were not at war.

But whether you like or not, there is. Different issues are important in different presidential races. Iraq war just so happens to important for this one.

I'm confused. Why does it matter if military service wouldn't be relevant if we weren't at war? Energy wouldn't be relevant if we weren't paying $4/gal for gas and immigration wouldn't be an issue if all the Hispanic would just go home and fiscal policy wouldn't be an issue if the government would just stop spending money...

You take away the relevant issues and we may as well have a beauty pagent for presidency instead of an election.

I don't mind if you don't care about McCain and his career, but you act so dismissive to the idea of those with military background. The global political climate has changed, and with things in their current state of play, military know-how is very important. It doesn't mean that you must have served in the military, but to act like it's a detriment to the position of Commander-in-Chief (the only constitutionally bound duty of the President) and you're sorely mistaken.

I actually do think military experience is important, though not altogether necessary.

What I found more interesting was #44: McCain's marriage began falling apart, and he had several extramarital affairs, which he blamed on selfishness and immaturity.

Funny how the GOP keeps moving that line after every election. :rolleyes:

True, we should follow the Democrat lead and simply abandon any moral standards for candidates.

Missed the point.

GOP on Clinton's "Didn't inhale" ....."OH MY GOD! We can't have a President like that!" Now we have a coke snorter.

GOP on Clinton and Lewinsky......"OH MY GOD! We can't have a President like that!" Now, apparently it's fine for McCain.

Though I won't be voting for McCain, I respect his service (military and Congress) tremendously and appreciate his military knowledge through experience. That said, I think this country better start getting used to presidents who have no military service; the rising generations in this country have had no Civil War/WWI/WWII/Korea/Vietnam - no draft or obligation to serve its country in battle. Instead, our young people go to college, and graduate school. I think we can expect to see far more lawyers and businessmen/women as our political leaders (not that they aren't already, but I think military service is becoming an increasingly rarer choice), and I'm OK with that. I think it's unrealistic for us to expect one person to satisfy all the "requirements" so many seek in a president - someone who's been to war, can write and argue policy, diplomatically discuss trade/business and human rights issues with foreign leaders, give a good press conference, and be REALLY LIKEABLE (I would trade this one for intelligence, but for many Americans it's apparently #1).

I'm comfortable leaving the military expertise to career military command, and choosing a president with the smarts to know what they don't know in this regard.

First, there is a big difference between having an affair, in the WH, while President, with a WH INTERN...and having an extramarital affair generally. Both are morally wrong, of course.

Second, you're right, some members of the GOP engage in hypocrisy. Thankfully for the left, hypocrisy can be avoided by not standing on principle to begin with.