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idkk 05-22-2008 11:41 PM

SDSU expels two fraternities
 
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SDSU expels two fraternities
By Sherry Saavedra

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER>

5:46 p.m. May 22, 2008

SAN DIEGO – Greek life may be severely diminished at San Diego State University in the fall. Two fraternities, Lambda Chi Alpha and Delta Sigma Phi, were expelled Thursday for alcohol and hazing violations, respectively, at a time when two other fraternities are on interim suspension resulting from the university's largest drug sting in history.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...bn22expel.html

jon1856 05-22-2008 11:47 PM

My first thought was of a real bad movie.
Dumb and Dumber.

LucyKKG 05-23-2008 12:31 AM

Wow, I totally expected to see something about Theta Chi in this thread. Jeez Louise!

PANTHERTEKE 05-23-2008 03:22 AM

Wtf is wrong with this school?

Their Greek system seems to be really f'ed up.

Years ago the TKE chapter there submitted paperwork to TKE's IHQ to have Ron Jeremy initiated as an honorary member.

Of course the request got rejected, but the guys there still had him go through ritual and now people believe he is a brother... :mad:

Needless to say we no longer have a chapter there.

SoCalGirl 05-23-2008 12:04 PM

State is it's own special place. :)

Worth noting is that both Delta Sig and Lambda Chi were recolonized not all that many years ago. :( :(

Tom Earp 05-23-2008 01:11 PM

So sad to hear about my Brothers there.

But, if the rules are not followed then, all will pay for what a few did.

It would be interesting to find out how many were involved in each of these GLOs.

sigmaK619 05-23-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE (Post 1656559)

Their Greek system seems to be really f'ed up.

It is.

Kevlar281 05-23-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE (Post 1656559)
Of course the request got rejected, but the guys there still had him go through ritual and now people believe he is a brother... :mad:

Haha, not to knock TKE but I remember when I went through rush being told about Ron Jeremy being a TKE. It wasn't exactly a selling point. They never once mentioned Ronald Reagan which actually would have impressed me.

srmom 05-23-2008 02:26 PM

From the article regarding Delta Sigma Phi:

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three pledges kidnapped a brother

The frat member contacted university police
I wonder if the other actives are upset with their brother for contacting the cops regarding the incident.

Now, before anyone jumps on me, I'm not saying that some if not most hazing isn't bad and that it shouldn't be reported.

I'm just wondering how the actives will feel knowing that the report of an active is what brought down the chapter. Isn't it usually the pledges or their parents that tell the authorities?

edited to add:
At the rate that fraternities are being kicked off campus, there may be no Greek system (at least for men) at SDSU in the near future;)

SWTXBelle 05-23-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1656819)

edited to add:
At the rate that fraternities are being kicked off campus, there may be no Greek system (at least for men) at SDSU in the near future;)

Or maybe the fraternities who are left will figure out that hazing isn't worth it. Hey, a girl can dream.

Tom Earp 05-23-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1656843)
Or maybe the fraternities who are left will figure out that hazing isn't worth it. Hey, a girl can dream.


While I can finally agree with you on a part of your post, oh never mind, you are so a pro of being correct.

So, if one does all are wrong?

No, I do not beleive in that part of it, but You are correct, screw up and well See Ya!

Stupid is as Stupid does.:(

So, it is a loss for all of us whether you beleive it or not.:o

SWTXBelle 05-23-2008 04:16 PM

Incomprehensible post alert!
 
Drole???? Paging Drole???

So Tom, you can agree that all fraternities should be able to learn a lesson from those who have been kicked off, and eschew hazing? Or is it that you agree that a girl can dream? Apparently you can only agree with part.

And yes, I am very proud of my command of the English language.
SMILEY TIME!:):confused::eek::rolleyes::cool::p;):D

CBU Jeff 05-23-2008 04:36 PM

I wonder how the University feels now...two major hits on their Greek system within a month. I'm surprised they haven't considered removing the Greek system totally.

exlurker 05-23-2008 04:42 PM

From the article -- another example of something that probably shouldn't have been said to the press:

the president of the Delta SIgma Phi chapter "said most fraternities at SDSU and elsewhere haze, even if they won't talk about it."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...1m23frats.html

srmom 05-23-2008 05:21 PM

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Ruiz said the victim reported the incident three days later, after he felt betrayed that his fraternity sided against him by allowing the pledges involved to become members.

So, the active involved did not immediately report the incident. He waited 3 days, and only reported it to get back at the other actives for making a decision to initiate the pledges who had "kidnapped" him.

This just seems really odd. I have heard of guys who depledged being shamed out of a school for not sticking it out - much less telling Greek Life about things that happened during pledgeship. That an active would rat out his own house to the police seems inconceivable. Can he possibly have known the consequences of going to the police?

I wonder if he is planning on staying at that school. Chances are he is on some people's s**t lists.

sigmaK619 05-23-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1656903)
I have heard of guys who depledged being shamed out of a school for not sticking it out - much less telling Greek Life about things that happened during pledgeship.

There is no way someone would be "shamed out of school" at SDSU for dropping out of/ratting on a fraternity (or sorority for that matter). Such a small percentage of the school is greek and for all the people who aren't greek there, they couldn't care less about it.

I will assume that this type of thing happens on campuses where over 50% of the school is greek. At SDSU only about 10-15% are greek, at most.

And BRAVO for the kid telling people about what happened. Being a member of a fraternity/sorority is not worth giving up your life....IMHO.

exlurker 05-23-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sigmaK619 (Post 1656916)
. . . And BRAVO for the kid telling people about what happened. Being a member of a fraternity/sorority is not worth giving up your life....IMHO.

Agreed! Being put in a chokehold that makes you unconscious, having money taken, etc.! -- allegedly. Doesn't sound brotherly to me.

. . . putting him in a chokehold that knocked him unconscious, SDSU spokesman Jack Beresford said. They bound the man with duct tape, forced beer down his throat and drove him around for 45 minutes before dropping him off on Mission Gorge Road, Beresford said.

“The person kidnapped felt in fear for his life,” he said.

His wallet was taken, and money was missing when it was retrieved, Beresford said. The fraternity member contacted university police.

PANTHERTEKE 05-23-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1656795)
Haha, not to knock TKE but I remember when I went through rush being told about Ron Jeremy being a TKE. It wasn't exactly a selling point. They never once mentioned Ronald Reagan which actually would have impressed me.

Yeah, thats the worst part about it. The fact that some guys believe it and think its cool and they brag about it to PNMs. :rolleyes:

PsychTau2 05-27-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1656887)
SMILEY TIME!:):confused::eek::rolleyes::cool::p;):D

When I read this I immediately thought of HAMMER TIME!!! And then pictured MC Hammer dancing.

Where is that icon of Hammer dancing, anyway?

PsychTau

riverqueen 05-30-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE (Post 1656957)
Yeah, thats the worst part about it. The fact that some guys believe it and think its cool and they brag about it to PNMs. :rolleyes:

The chapter I was a sweetheart of had shirts about it that they wore during rush. One had a picture of Ronald Reagan and next to it was written "We put a man in the white house." Below it was a picture of Gerald Carr and written next to it was "We put a man in space." Below it was a picture of someone else and next to it was written "We put a man in (wherever that guy went). Below that one was a picture of Ron Jeremy and next to it was written "We put a man in over 4000 women." Then at the bottom it said "What can TKE do for you?"

There was another really awful one that they wore too... looking back, I can't believe I let them talk me into wearing them in public.

riverqueen 05-31-2008 11:41 AM

Oh! and the other one was a spin off of the Visa commercial. It had a picture of Ron Jeremy on the back and below it was written "TKE, we're everywhere you want to be."

banditone 05-31-2008 01:15 PM

All I can say is that initiated brother must be pretty much hated in his own house.

TorrentRain 05-31-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CBU Jeff (Post 1656894)
I wonder how the University feels now...two major hits on their Greek system within a month. I'm surprised they haven't considered removing the Greek system totally.

I thought the same thing.


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