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Kansas recruitment
I was wondering how competitive Kansas State and University of Kansas recruitment is?
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I always encourage girls to get recs, but here is a quote from the K-State FAQ section on recruitment: The Panhellenic Council does not require formal membership recruitment participants to submit letters of recommendation. It will not count against you if you do not have any recommendations, but you are welcome to have them submitted directly to one or more sororities if you wish. I have known girls at both schools to rush successfully without lining up recs. I am not recommending anyone do that, I just know it to be true. Recruitment is competitive and the conventional wisdom is that KU is more so than K-State. We have our share of broken hearts and tears during recruitment. Greek life is strong and there are several award winning chapters on these campuses. Having said all that, however, it is overall not nearly as "do or die" as it is at some Southern schools I read about on GC. A few years ago we had a young alum from Texas going to grad school at K-State who served as an advisor. She commented that greek membership was treated much more casually in KS than in TX, where your status as an undergrad really depended on your greek affiliation. (Hearsay testimony, but I think it's relevant.) I was reading the current W & L thread--75% of women pledge!! Wow! K-State & KU are both campuses of well over 20,000 so there are lots of students who are not a part of the greek system. (As at most places, however, a disproportionate # of the leaders are.) Hope this helps to answer your question.:) |
by the way I'm a transfer
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You might want to read some of the threads on pledging as a sophomore. Did you go through recruitment at your current school?
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"Letters of recommendation regarding women going through recruitment are greatly appreciated." {chapter has been at K-State for 90 years} "Although recommendations are not required to go through Recruitment, current [name of sorority] members use these recommendations as an opportunity to get to know these women before they arrive for Recruitment." {chapter has been at K-State for 50+ years} Some other chapters' pages offer links to inter/national web sites' rec (and legacy) forms. I'd say, in agreement with wildcatfan, that recs are, at the very least, a really good idea. |
I go to KU and actually rushed as a sophomore transfer with NO recs whatsoever.
I never felt like rush was "competitive" exactly, but with so many girls and 13 chapters, it's definitely necessary to stand out. Recs and legacies are basically a way to get a chapter's attention so that they can find out how wonderful you are. I ended up in a great sorority that I absolutely love, but I got cut from a LOT of houses (all but two!) because I didn't know how important recommendations were, and I didn't know many Greek alumnae. And just a note, I'm being 100% genuine when I say that ALL of the sororities at KU are great! Some of them are more competitive than others, but even a so-called "lower tier" chapter has tons of smart, athletic, talented girls who are active all over campus. So get some recs, practice playing up your best assets, and get ready to sweat. Recruitment in August on a hilly campus is no picnic. :) |
i was also wondering about wichita state rush and if it would hurt not growing up in Kansas
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I'm rushing at K-State this August. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the different chapters. I've been on their websites, but they haven't really told me much....I've heard that all scools have "A" sororites(smart, classy), "B" sororities(skanky), and "C" sororities(nerdy). Can anyone fill me in on k-state's chapters?
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The best advice we can offer you is to go through recruitment with an open mind and pay no attention to the tent talk you might encounter both online and in real life. The only real way to get to know the chapters is when you rush, not via their website or what you read online. |
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You'll get more of an impression in those 4 days than you'll ever get on a message board. |
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I had to add my two cents, do not try to find out reputations before rush. You can get your own view of it during rush but looking at reputations can make you make the wrong choice. Of course chapters will have reputations but do your best to not pay attention to them. Paying attention to reputations made me make the wrong choice
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I, for one, would be proud to be part of any sorority at KU, even the "C" sororities. I'm not saying that because it's the PC thing to say. All 13 chapters are full of great girls.
PLEASE don't go out of your way to find out reputations. It's much wiser to base your decision on who you click with with. |
I do not know how competitive KU and KState are, but maybe it will help if you can find out how many girls went through recruitment, pledge class size for formal recruitment, how many participate in informal recruitment, etc. You can contact the Greek Life office on those campuses for that information. Also, contact the alumnae panhellenic associations in your area or a major city in Kansas if you are out of state. They should be of some help.
Warning - just ask how competitive the campuses are (are recs needed, out of state advice, etc) NOT reputations of individual groups. |
I also am rushing at KSU this fall...as a junior though. I went to a junior college my first two years and am transferring now. I have talked to several people, including someone in the office of greek life at K-State, and I have gotten mixed responses when it comes to "How slim are my chances of getting into a house since I'm a junior?" Some tell me that I shouldn't waste my time because they will pass on me, some say that I should do it because of my personality, that they will overlook my class. Since I've gotten all types of responses, I'm going to rush and hope that my personality, GPA (3.66), recs, and all that good stuff will shine through my age. Here's hoping! Any advice is welcomed haha.
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Good luck this Fall. |
Yes, keep us posted or update us after recruitment. It is always nice to hear from PNMs and where they ended up.
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Thanks, I can't wait! And I'll of course come back and update, but possibly with a new username haha.
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Yes, TLJ, please keep us posted! Your stats are good and it seems like the only thing working against you is your age. That will probably get you cut at some top houses, but other houses might be more receptive.
Honestly, I would be pretty pleased to have someone who has demonstrated academic success at the COLLEGE level. So many PNMS come through with a 4.0 from high school, accept their bids, and promptly fail their classes. |
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Have sex with a lot of Sigma Nus... according to Kedzman they are top tier because they have a decent GPA.
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Of course, I don't know for sure what could happen. I could be wrong. And I do think TLJ can have a successful recruitment, but her upperclassman status puts her at a disadvantage on a campus like KSU. At KU (and I assume at KSU, because they are similar), a "top tier" house is only a little bit stronger than a second or even third tier house. It's generally the difference between a 3.4 gpa and a 3.2, first place in intramurals and second place. And with PNMs, the most desirably houses often earn that honor in silly ways: the catchiest songs, the coolest symbols, the cutest outfits or the nicest house. Sorry, I kinda hijacked the thread. |
Eh, I'm not really concerned with getting into a "top" house, I'm more concerned about getting into a house that I fit well into, regardless of if it's "number 1" or not haha.
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Hi guys, I'm thinking about going though recruitment at K-State this fall. I would like to get into a sorority, but its not a matter of life and death with me as it seems to be with other girls. I have heard that if you have decent grades and are presentable it is highly unlikely you won't get an offer from a house. Maybe you won't get your first, second, or third choice but you will at least get one offer. The reason I'm asking is because I'm not 100% sure I want to do the greek thing in college. I think that even after recruitment week if I feel its not for me then at least I will have met a lot of cool people. But, if it is something I want to pursue it would be nice to get a bid after spending $250.00 on fees plus new outfits. Basically, it's been an expensive summer with dorm fees, tuition, and books and I'm not sure if I want to spend the time and money with no gaurentee. I know this is not the best attitude to have, and I would appreciate it if you guys could tell me what you think.
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2. There are very few guarantees in life. 3. Sororities cost money. |
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Ummm, I was actually looking for advice from girls who have gone through recruitment at K-State who could tell me how competitive it is, ect.
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I looked at their rush site, and it looks like if you don't finish rush, you get $60 of your $225 back. The rest is paying for your room and meals during rush. |
I like that idea. Women pay so much to rush these days at some schools and if they don't get a bid, they should get back any money that didn't go for actual expenses. It's bad enough that their self-esteem may have been shot to h@**.
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KSU2008,
I am a longtime lurker but have never posted before, but your KSU thread caught my eye. I went through recruitment at KSU back in 90s with similar thoughts as you. I was the first greek in my family, had no idea what I was doing, and not quite sure if it was for me. But I decided if nothing else it would be a good way to meet people before classes started. Then, as it is now, while K-State is competitive, all of the houses are quite strong and no one is too hung up on the idea of top tier houses. In my own experience, I was cut from a few houses, but got to do most of the cutting and had a full schedule each day. By the day before prefs, I could honestly say that I would have been comfortable in any of the 5 houses I had left. I was fortunate to get a bid from the house that had been my top choice throughout the week, but I still a bit concern that maybe this wasn't for me, and I decided I'd at least stick it out through initiation. Flash forward and I was eventually president of my chapter and am a highly active alum. My best friends in the house are truly like family to me. (I am 35 and we still e-mail each other every day!). And while I did have friends from home who went through rush the same year as me and did not get bids or dropped out of recruitment, they were very few or had their heart set on one house. Yet in the end they didn't regret going through recruitment and went on to have great college experiences. And in recent years, K-State has improved efforts to make sure as many girls get bids as possible. The bottom line, is just making connections before classes start gives you a great advantage at college from the start no matter the outcome. But if you have recs, have the grades, keep and open mind and best yoru best foot forward during recruitment, you will most likely find yourself a sorority home in Manhattan. Good luck! |
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there is a "e" at the end of "belle"
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Originally Posted by southernbell196 [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Curt/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/03/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] i was also wondering about wichita state rush and if it would hurt not growing up in Kansas Wichita State has a much smaller Greek population than KU and Kstate. I like having a small house much better because you are closer. There are 4 Panhellenic Sororities - Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta, Delta Gamma, and Delta Delta Delta. Last years Formal Recruitment had about 80 girls go through, but this year we are hoping for more. Our Greek percentage on campus is much smaller currently than other [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Curt/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]It will be starting the First week of September. Information and sign up is somewhere on the WSU site. (wichita.edu) You do not have to be from Kansas. Some of the girls are local, but some are not. WSU is an international friendly school, and having someone from out of state would be welcome and wonderful. Hope this helped |
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Thanks so much for your information about Wichita State that was exactly the kind of information I was looking for
By the way to a previous poster, I am fully aware belle is spelled with an e I just made a mistake while getting my user name. Posts can be better used for offering people help instead of criticizing them. |
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