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Jackets.
I'm interested in getting a new sorority jacket. I have one, thats similiar to every other sorority member on campus. Its the trend to have the hoody type jacket, (over the head) with your name on the front- with large greek letters on the back. I really want to get the 'coaches' style jacket. But, on campus the only organizations you see wearing those are the divine nine organizations. They are called crossing jackets within their groups. These are very significant within their history. Do you think it would be disrespectful to get one with my letters on them. I want to get our letters going downward on the front- left side. My name on the right side. I would like to get a large crest on the back. But again, this style jacket has a very significant role in history for these organizations. I'm asking for a little advise here. I dont want to disrespect anyone, just for me to feel a little trendy ;) |
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If you do get a jacket like this when no other NPC on campus wears them and when all the NPHC groups do, I would be prepared to get a lot of funny looks/raised eyebrows/stares. |
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For Chrissakes it's just a jacket! Nobody in the divine nine sat down with their ritual, a mortar and pestle, and incense, and said "And now doth the crossing season goeth on the right sleeve and right sleeve only..."
If you want a jacket with your letters and emblems on them, go for it. Yes, be prepared for "looks" but it's not disrespectful if you're not making up a line name and line number JUST to be like the NPHC. |
If you're paying for it, do whatever the heck you want.
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I wouldn't suggest getting one EXACTLY like any of the groups on your campus, but if you want a jacket, get a jacket. A few OPhiAs have jackets, the vast majority don't. It's not that big a deal, although it does get noticed. Chances are, your group will suddenly be that one NPC group on campus that the D9 orgs all actually remember their name :) There's always got to be one, might as well make it yours.
(I would check the protocol about the crest, tho', as 33 already mentioned.) |
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We need to be honest with the poster though. Many of us on this board are in alumnae chapters now or we came in thru alumnae chapters. Speaking as a former undergrad member of my org, many undergrads are indeed very sensitive to the things/traditions that the NPHC groups are widely known for, especially on campuses where they are the only orgs doing things a certain way. For example, on my undergrad campus we had all of the NPHC orgs except for Iotas, but there were no other "ethnic" orgs or multi-cultural orgs. The service orgs we had such as Gamma Sigma Sigma, did not model anything after the NPHC groups so we were the only ones on campus modeling the NPHC traditions.
Now we have all had discussions on gc about the NPHC "traditions" and the fact that no one owns anything but the reality is that most undergrads are not mature enough yet to see things the way that we do here on gc. |
I do not really see it about maturity, though. I see it as a sense of ownership and that will also depend on campus climate, among other things.
On just about every GLO paraphernalia site that doesn't specialize in NPHC gear only, there are coaches and lettermen jackets for all organizations. Whether or not NPC and IFC members actually wear them on a particular campus is a different story. But as an undergrad and now as an alum, I wouldn't and don't think anything of seeing an NPC or IFC member wearing a jacket if it only has basics like the letters and a crest. It's not like she was going to create crossing info and so forth for the jacket. |
^^^ A slight piggy back on that.... it is sometimes the case that the orgs have the info but display it differently (I would dare say "unusually.")
At my first APO convention, I was ASTOUNDED at the number of non-black, non-Latino chapters that wore honest to gosh Para. Some had line names, but no numbers. Some had their chapter numbers (triple digits) instead of line numbers. And of course, there was a wide array of colors -- yet most wore blue and gold. In some Latin orgs, I've seen lower case Greek letters beneath the chapter letters, representing the pledge class letters. Sure, we're all slightly older than the OP, but it doesn't take much to make something unique (or at the worst, different) with your own traditions. |
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So the same goes for the OP. Whatever pertains to her organization is what she should feel free to put on her jacket. As long as it has significance to her and isn't just done to mimick. |
I sort of agree with the post "it's your money...do whatever you want".
I got my jacket from Stuff4Greeks and while the bulk of their work seems to be done for NPHC groups, they have samples of many other organizations as well. As far as disrespect or looks....no one organization lays a claim on Greek-lettered clothing. You may be the first to break the mold; but you probably will not receive as much strife as you are envisioning. ;) |
I was wondering the same thing because I wanted to get one of those jackets too. Then I saw a Sigma Chi coaches style jacket on a website that was made by a Kappa. I called and asked questions about the jackets and who he makes them for and he said all greeks. All the jackets on his site are really nice. I think I will go on ahead and get me one of those Sig jackets just like the ones on the site. This is what it looks like: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ndID=158567062
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To the OP: I'm assuming from your screen name that you're a Pi Phi! Please come by and introduce yourself in the Pi Phi forum.
Personally I think your idea for a jacket is really cool. Of course I can't speak to how other orgs might react to your jacket. I *don't know* of anything in Pi Phi regulations that would prevent you from using the crest on the jacket if you wanted. Also I have noticed increasing numbers of NPC groups getting "outer wear" (not necessarily line jackets, but in some cases somewhat similar to them) as a group, so this may be becoming more common. That's just based on my own anecdotal observation though. |
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Thank you. |
Aww, thank YOU!
Also, to any non-NPHC people who might be wondering: There is actually a difference between a line jacket and a coaches jacket. (Coach's?) A coaches jacket is merely a style of jacket. Anyone can get one. A line jacket is any jacket that includes your "line" information: linename/nickname, line number, name of line, chapter, crossing season. Sometimes aliases. Line jackets can be coaches jackets, baseball jackets, Charles River style pullovers, or even varsity jackets. I have also seen line sweaters (pullovers and cardigans). It's the info that makes a line jacket -- otherwise, it's just a sorority/fraternity jacket. |
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This sounds like a motto for a Greek gear store. :) |
Where I went to school (SFASU), all the NPC sororities wore a coach's jacket (we just called them windbreakers). Granted, I graduated in 1992, but from what I remember, it was one of the first things we got with letters on it (after a shirt and a tote bag). Since we had spring rush back then (it has since moved to fall), these jackets came in quite handy.
Letters were the sewn-on type, placed on the left side, 2 inches tall, going horizontal. They were solid color with another color behind them. Your first name was embroidered in the contrasting color (the backing color of the letters) underneath the letters. Nothing else was on the jacket. From what I remember, these were the color schemes (everyone in each sorority had the same colors - you could tell who was in what sorority just by the jacket color): Alpha Chi Omega - green jacket, red letters, white backing Chi Omega - red jacket, red letters, yellow backing Delta Delta Delta - royal blue jacket, royal blue letters, yellow backing Delta Zeta - pink jacket, pink letters, green backing Gamma Phi Beta - white jacket, white letters, red backing on gamma, yellow backing on phi, blue backing on beta Zeta Tau Alpha - blueish turquoise jacket, blueish turquoise letters, silver backing Sigma Kappa - purple jacket, purple letters, silver backing Gamma Sigma Sigma also had windbreakers - maroon jacket, maroon letters, white backing Hope that helps! |
OK, after this post^^^ I'm confused. Is there a difference between a coaches/coach's jacket and a windbreaker?
In this thread AngelPhiSig talks about our jackets - do they look like this or are they different? |
Windbreaker (to me) describes the fabric and not the style of jacket.
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They were this style, but again, 2 inch horizontal letters.
http://somethinggreek.com/_content/i...oachJacket.jpg |
Oh OK, those are different than our baseball jackets.
To me a windbreaker is something thin - whose only purpose is to (duh) break the wind. Then again in Texas there wouldn't be much use for a lined baseball jacket (we had people who wore them all winter - they were warm). |
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My windbreaker/pull-over is also my crossing/line jacket. I haven't worn this one in years but my coach's jacket I wear all the time. |
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I just want to say that this just helped me in a crucial way. Thanks! |
You're welcome!
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I apologize for the super old thread bump, but didn't want to start a brand new thread about jackets....
I'm getting a KEY jacket, and I'm looking for a Rosie the Riveter patch to go on the back. I have google searched high and low and cannot seem to find what I'm looking for. The ones I have been able to find are teeny tiny. Any suggestions on where I may be able to get a custom patch made? Or a print applique type thing that might work for the same purpose? I'm not really sure what alternatives might work that actually look good... Thanks! |
http://www.stuff4greeks.com/patches/designlibrary.php
Will this suffice? Perhaps find an image, take it here and have them tweak and enlargen? |
Awesome. Yes, I'll have to see if they can make one for me. Thank you!
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