Sorority suspended for "Indian Party."
 

Gamma Phi Beta has been temporarily suspended for a party in which people dressed as Indians and wore "red face."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../posts?page=70

It's interesting that it took this long to happen.

Lame.

Personally, I agree.

But.

What makes this any different than the huge response we've had over the years of people wearing blackface to parties?

As a person of Indian heritage (Cherokees don't use the "Native American" label constantly) I don't feel particularly offended.

But I'll bet some do.

I don't think 'being offensive' is something anyone should ever be punished by a government entity for.

Those 10 students or whatever should feel free to picket the Gamma Phi Beta house or whatever it is they want to do, but using the school to discipline them for 'offensive' conduct is beyond the pale and possibly unconstitutional.

OK.

Weren't the chapters who held parties where people showed up in blackface disciplined by their schools as well?

Frankly, I'm just astounded this hasn't come up before.

Yes, yes...Kevin...we know. LOL.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=95408

you have to understand that there's even more to the UND issue. the school has been fighting for years to keep the nickname "the fighting sioux" and the local tribes have been against it saying that it was degrading, so this just added to all the turmoil.

Yep.

That's not at all the same thing.

I guess Italians and Greeks are going to be whining about toga parties next.

Why would Greeks be whining about toga parties? Togas are Roman, not Greek. ;)

And last I heard they hadn't been rounded up on reservations in their native lands.

It wasn't yesterday - if you check the date, it was the end of March. And yes, that is a long time from the time of the party in November. We've discussed this before in another thread.

Not making a comment about the implications of the party, but I thought that one of the responses to the article was kind of funny -

Using this logic, I guess we should get rid of Halloween.

When my kids were little, they dressed up as Indians all the time. You can buy cheap Indian gear at Party City and any toy store. I guess they should make those things unavailable.

If they took away the source for feather headresses, I doubt people would start killing birds to make them. If they did, that would open up a whole new can of worms...

heh heh

PCness to the upmost!:rolleyes:

Next it could be Cowboys, Steel Workers, Meat Packers, Oil Workers, Irish folks (Celtics), ETC!

How is that relevant? Were the girls dressing up as Indians for a "Trail of Tears" party?

Yeah.. and the last time it was started here, I moved it to the GL forum. I suppose this could also legitimately fall under the RM heading though, although I'm not really seeing where anyone was ever at risk from this party for anything but butthurtedness.

Ridiculous.

One would think that, considering the current situation with UND's Fighting Sioux nickname and local tribes, the sorority members would think that maybe, just maybe, an Indian-themed party might not be such a good idea.

I was responding to this:
Your analogy of Italians and Greeks having the same historical grievances as Native Americans doesn't fit.

Why?

So what about everyone else pitches a complaint from PCNess?:rolleyes:

Um, what?

Yes, yes...Tom Earp...we know.

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I think that everyone needs to leave Gamma Phi Beta alone. They are a multicultural sorority and have the right to dress in garb that reflects their heritage.

Question.

Do professional sports teams or universities pay Indians to use logos/names/mascots? I have to think the answer is no........because I guarantee you if they did, we wouldn't hear a whisper out of them.

What's sad is that usually money is the only agenda when it comes to these people. I'm beginning to think they could care less about the PC aspect of it so long as they are getting theirs.

LOL.@Senusret

Maybe, maybe not. So?

:eek:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think FSU has some type of agreement with the Seminole tribe where they share in the rights to the logo. A couple of years ago, there was a hupla about Indian names for teams and the Seminoles told the press to leave them out of it, that they were happy and proud to have FSU using their name and identity as their mascot.

From an old article - maybe there is no financial agreement - they are just proud to be associated with the college :)

That's called "having a sense of ownership."

They don't feel mocked, belittled or objectified in that specific context. They have endorsed it (there is probably more to it than we are being told) and therefore don't feel that images are being taken and used against them.

Last year at my school someone (not sure if it was even a house!) had a party on Martin Luther King Day called a "Pimps and Hos" party. This was treated like the epitome of racism by our administration, including an open forum, etc. etc.

So, some students decided that they would show how silly they thought it was by protesting a party some frat house had a week later, one that was called "Redneck Hoes" or something like that. Anyway, the admin basically told them it was no big deal. Similarly, frats hold BET Vs. CMT date dashes and not a word is said by the admin.

I think they pick and chose, really.

Everyone has historical grievances. The Romans have historical grievances against the Visigoths, Ostragoths, Vandals, Germans, etc.

So I suppose that if I have Visigoth lineage, I'd better not be caught wearing a Toga, eh?

Oh, god, Kevin, whatever. You know what I'm saying and you know you're stretching, let's KIM.

DAH, what dont you understand?:rolleyes:


U want to say things and female/male snivley comments but you never say anything with a mouth full. U are an intersting person?:rolleyes:

Oh Kevin see if this person can make sense to you! Would be interesting to hear all about it!;)

That stretch is slightly less painful than his law school one from the other thread. :)

Paging Drolefille! Paging Drolefille!

'Cause I truly can't figure this one out.

It's like raiiiiiiiiiin on a wedding day!!!!

These theme parties are really dumb.

All I could get out of it is that he said I'm an interesting person. I'll own that. ;)

I feel the same way about Kamanawanaleiya "luau" themed parties. :rolleyes:

Whatev.

I haven't been to a luau party (or a toga party, for that matter).

Have you ever felt offended by the luau parties beyond thinking GLOs having the parties is dumb?