"Don't pledge a sorority cause they will turn you into a bitch"
 

Is what some of my boyfriends brothers said to me the other night. They say that I'm a nice girl and they don't want to see me become a snobby bitch like other girls they know. I come back saying that if i ever did pledge that I would always stay true to my morals. But they said that pledging changes you. Yeah, hopefully for the better I said. Is that really how guys feel about girls after they pledged. I mean come on, I knew some of these guys before they got into their house and the fact that they pledged a fraternity doesn't change my view of them as a person, so why am I getting all of this crap that If I do decide to pledge then they may not see me the same way anymore. Also if I did pledge to a sorority that they disliked would me being a part of it or wearing their letters make them dislike me as a person. Or if a sorority that I pledge dislikes the fraternity that my boyfriend is in would they give me problems about being with him and hanging out there?

Maybe they kept getting dumped by sorority girls who had brains.

"Maybe pledging changes you"....are they exactly the same before and after they pledged their fraternity?

Go to the recruitment events with open mind.

Who will you remember the longest...the awesome group you coulda/shoulda/did joined (or the twerpy boyfriend's (who's no longer in the pic) friends?

If those guys wouldn't like you because you joined a sorority, then they aren't worth knowing! The last place you need to get advice about sorority life is from a fraternity guy.

The world awaits the next exciting topic inspired by your "boyfriend's brothers."

The world needs more bitches. Go for it.

OK, so yeah the last few topics that I posted were about my boyfriends brothers. However even in the long run if we are not together the advice still helps.

Wow, that has got to be the best advice I've read on here, your so right we could break up and if we did i would want to be part of a group of girls that I joined for me not a group that I joined for him. So if it comes down to it and he tells me that I shouldn't join XY or Z sorority because his house doesn't like them then I would definitely have to rethink our relationship.

:)

Yes, you will always need to know how to impress a boyfriend's fraternity brothers and whether joining a sorority will make a boyfriend's fraternity brothers dislike you/what will happen if the sorority you join dislikes a boyfriend's fraternity.

Not really. ;)

KSU's advice is perfect. Most importantly, I advocate women developing more as people before they consider themselves to be "greekintraining." Then some of your "boyfriend's brothers'" questions would be less relevant to you.

No, I think they got it wrong. Being in a sorority doesn't turn you into a bitch. You have to BE a bitch already to become a member.





FYI.....Bitch = strong woman.

The snottiest meanest cattiest girl I know is very anti-sorority. In fact, she's probably going around calling me a sorostitute.

Bitches aren't always strong, opinionated, assertive women.

Sometimes "bitches" are snobby, biligerent, obnoxious, unnecessarily aggressive or arrogant......

It's the latter bitch that makes it difficult for the former bitch. But which bitch women are considered to be often depends on who's judging. :D

Lol @ "which bitch"! :p

Which bitch or witch bitch! :eek::p

Oh noez! Alert the authorities! :eek::eek::eek:

It will.

But it'll also make you way cuter in my eyes.

Good trade, in my opinion.

Well, you are the one to make the decision about who you join, not your BF!

You have to live with them, not him!

What you will have may not include him!

You make your own choice, you wull be the one not him in the everafter!

I fit all those 3 words, and I never ever use the word "bitch" to describe myself. OK, so I rarely ever use it other than to refer to female canines.

Yup, that would be that girl who does describe herself as a bitch.

You really use it to refer to a female dog? Really? Really?

The only time I hear people use "bitch" in reference to a female dog is when they feel they need to justify their need to use that "bad word".

Reminds me of Catholic high school.

Dude, you missed the Westminster Kennel Club. I swear, all the announcers use bitch just because they can.

Almost every woman thinks she fits those 3 words versus the "snobbish, etc." words. :p

I don't use "bitch" to describe myself, either, unless I'm admittingly "acting like a bitch." But that doesn't stop others from using that word to describe me. :D

Or not.

That has to be a bitch of a time. Watching those bitches strut their bitchness.

Bitches are annoying, but they fuck so good. Buckcherry said so.

Guys who have a problem with their girlfriend joining a sorority have control/insecurity issues.

http://www.tvguide.com/movies/dbpix/images/35658a.jpg

Now the song is stuck in my head.

Holy crap! That is too funny! :D

Aren't we all forgetting the best "bitch" line ever? You know, "I'm Rick James, BITCH!"

Girl, im not gonna lie to you. I know A LOT of people that pledged and changed. Some people get caught up in this thing i like to call the "greek matrix" where they think being in a frat/sorority makes them better than everyone else in the entire world. Whether or not you change after you pledge is on you. But dont let anyone discourage you from wanting to join an org if thats what you really wanna do.

Maybe we're talking about different Westminster Kennel Club Shows, but the announcers I've heard (on all the kennel shows) are using "dam" more than ever before.

But back on topic: my one roomie rushed only because her boyfriend was losing interest in her, and becoming overly interested in sorority women. Needless to say, when she did become a sorority sister, she only lastest about two years. In other words, a guy either likes you or he doesn't. If he's too insecure to handle having you in a sorority, you need him (and his friends) like a flea dip.

If you think about it (the collective you, not YOU personally), this can and does happen to people at so many different points in their lives.

For example, if you join a sports team, you may start "acting" like the other sports guys. Working out more, watching game films with the team, and resting the night before the game. You might gain confidence, and earn some success. People start to know your name.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed".

When you join a GLO, you likely spend a lot of time with other members, at meetings, social events, philanthropy, etc. Your GLO may have a "call" or a do or say something that is unique to them. You wear the same colors or letters regularly. You may have moved into their house, or represent them on campus committees. You may walk in groups on your way to class or out at night. You are psyched that you found a group of friends, or joined a group you had your heart set on. You have a lot of different opportunities that maybe your older friends do not.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed.

You have been working at the same place for years, when finally, you get that promotion and raise. You may get a company car and the president may invite you to vacation with him at his time share for a week. You buy a new car because until now, it just wasn't in the budget. You are less stressed now that you are finally contributing to your 401k or don't have to worry as much as to how to afford your daughter's braces. You feel proud because you manage people now, and you've never been the leader in anything. You may even be your friend's boss now. Finally, your major in underwater basket weaving is worth something.

Suddenly, people start saying, "you've changed".

My point is, we change constantly. We change due to new assocations (people), environments (roommates, houses, neighborhoods, jobs), financial status, etc. Often, the people who were close to the person going through the change are nervous - they worry about what is going to happen to their relationship?

Now onto what I think this poster means. With change, people may feel like they are better than those who didn't get chosen join, promote, make the team, etc. But most of the time, I can guarantee, that attitude changes are likely a front. They are petrified. They got what they finally wanted, or worked for, and now what? Should they dress differently? Talk differently? In many cases, they have to. Team jerseys, letters, suits and ties....there are "uniforms" everywhere.

I don't think that the situation is unique to Greeks only. It happens over and over. How we respond to change within our own lives is what's important. Parents always say "be yourself", and now that I am an adult, I can tell you that it's so very true. If you are true to yourself, then any changes you experience will be positive ones.

Best of luck.

I've been the shit way before I went Greek. I am the most fine and Christlike black woman, always have been, and always will be in the future.

Hey now...does your pastor hear you talk with that mouth??

LOL

AGREEEEEED!! never ever listen to them!!! Please dont be a groupie either before rush it just looks way bad to us!
<3 Audie

Many nice guys I know end up complete jerks after joining fraternities, but you know what? I don't go around telling people to not join fraternities.

Maybe that's the way they really were before they started pledging but it just didn't 'shine though' as much.

So, I'm not saying that they were right, or that those guys are jerks, I'm just saying there is no real way for them to know how you would change if any because you are you... and YOU have the ability to control your actions. No one else can dictate that.

Long story short: Don't listen to them... and if they look at you differently just because you join a sorority, what does that say about them?

In life you won't be able to please everyone. I know you are trying to make a good impression on your bf's friends, but you shouldn't let the real you not come through just to impress them... and that includes doing/not doing things to make them like you.

Am I the only one who thinks that the guys in this fraternity (including her boyfriend) sound like a bunch of geeky jerks who can't get sororities to mix with them?

No, it's not just you.

If the situations were reversed, would you say that the girls who didn't like fraternity men sounded like a bunch of ugly bitches who didn't get invited to fraternity parties?

Yes. And I have.

There's a difference between saying that a PARTICULAR fraternity is not the most gentlemanly, and condemning them all across the board - especially when you yourself are Greek. Everyone is going to have opinions on who's nice or not nice, but it sounds like these guys just dislike sorority women in general. They didn't say don't pledge XYZ, they said don't pledge period.