gpa required for the following chapters?
 

Hey what gpa is your national standard for a bid into the following sororities for pledges right out of high school?
Kappa delta
kappa kappa gamma
pi beta phi
tri delta
delta gama
gamma phi beta
alpha phi
alpha gamma delta
kappa alpha theta
thanks!:)

See if this helps:

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Ditto what KSUViolet said..most, if not all, individual chapters have the freedom to set their own minimum GPA standards. As was recommended, contact the Greek Life office to find out the minimum GPA allowed for Recruitment participation then inquire if they know if the minimum GPAs for the chapters are higher than that.

Am I the only one who thinks it's really strange that there are SO MANY threads about GPAs out of high school? I've kep this thought to myself for a while now....but geez.

Sure, national minimum for alot of orgs is 2.5 (AXiD's is 2.5) but as KSUViolet said, my chapter also has a minimum or 2.75, and preferably even a 3.0 (most incoming freshman at my school have a 3.0 high school GPA anyway, because of HOPE scholarship requirements).

It just seems weird to me that so many incoming freshmen would be worried about minimum GPAs for chapters. If, as an incoming freshman, you dont have AT LEAST a 3.0 high school GPA, I would think you should re-evaluate your academic priorities. Yes, some schools, and many chapters require higher than a 3.0. But if your GPA is 2.something, why even bother?

I think the concern is due to the fact that so many chapters want gpa's even higher than a 3.0. PNM's are hearing this through the grapevine and are starting to panic. So and so was cut for her grades...etc. SEC schools are looking for higher and higher gpa's and often this one aspect of their resume can be the tipping point for a pnm when so many other points are equal. My chapter min is 3.0..

I was under the impression that a sorority can have a national GPA, but it is up to the school's panhellenic to set the minimum gpa for recruitment. For example, AXiD nationally is 2.5, the school were I went the min. GPA to go through recruitment is 2.75.

A school can do that if they want, however, I remember us talking on here about I think UGA having a GPA to go through rush that was actually LOWER than not only the national mins, but the chapter ones as well.

Schools can set whatever minimum gpa to rush that they want, but the individual chapters have minimums of their own which are often much higher.

I'd be more concerned with the chapter minimums. Chapters CAN go below their chapter minimums but not below their national minimums, but it's VERY rare. Don't bank on being that special.

There are at least four minimums for GPA which I've heard of:

-The GLO's headquarters' minimum
-The Chapter's minimum
-The Panhellenic minimum
and
-The Freshmand minimum (established by a chapter)

Ours was:

-2.75
-2.75
-2.5
-3.0

It's been a while since I've seen a freshman cut for grades, but IMHO, any decent college or university should ask for at least a 3.0 out of high school.

Below is from the Recruitment Registration form for UGA. Looks like they do not have a min to participate in rush, but make it pretty clear that the range is 2.5 to 3.25. They also recommend at least a 2.8 to participate (this could be where chapters have set a higher min gpa).

ACADEMIC RECORD RELEASE: I understand that to apply for Recruitment, I must be a regularly enrolled, full-time student in good standing with The University of Georgia. I authorize Panhellenic Council to verify my academic eligibility. Although Panhellenic does not require a specific grade point average to participate in Recruitment, each sorority has a grade point average and policies regarding acceptable credit hours for joining and/or initiation that go beyond the University's minimum requirements. These averages range from a minimum of 2.5 to 3.25 on a 4.0 scale. I understand that if my grade point average is below the minimum or much lower than average, chances of joining are greatly reduced. It is highly recommended that you have at least a 2.8 grade point average to participate in Recruitment.

I don't recall us ever even discussing grades for PNMs, but that was because we knew that if they got in to Pepperdine, they obviously had the grades. GPA is more of an issue for sophomores and higher...unless you go to a school with lower academic standards that don't require high GPAs to get in in the first place.

I would think it would be difficult to get in to a college now without at least a 3.0. I would think with all the potentail to increase grades through taking advance placement classes, this situation should be moot. I remember kids graduating with above a 4.0.
(I know when I was in school our sorority set the gpa requirement slightly higher than the requirement to go through rush.)

Different colleges and universities have different admission requirements. Maybe the hs gpa was so-so but she tested well and made a high ACT score. Both are taken into account for admission.

One chapter I am familiar with cuts first round based on grades, so yes, chapters are cutting based on grades. I would venture that a lot of them are making first cuts based on this.

With the new release figures method, chapters are having to make heavier cuts earlier on, and alot of the time, grades are the only thing you really have to go on. When you HAVE to cut a certain number of women, you just go with the lowest GPAs.

^^^ I agree. That was the point I was trying to make to another poster. You just did it better!:)

I recall a lot of raised eyebrows at anything under a 3.9 for a freshman. I can't remember the actual required gpa for a freshman because it was a non issue. But a freshman with a (in comparison) low gpa would get analyzed closer. At the very least out of curiosity as to how she snagged a spot in the freshman class.

I guess it depends on the academic strength of the particular university, but at a school that is hard to get into (let's say under 35% admitted) cutting based on GPA for freshmen in the fall seems to be splitting hairs. At a prestigious school, how low of a HS GPA can a PNM have and still have gotten in? The real sorter is once you have those first semester grades, because everyone may have done well in high school, but college is a different ball game. Can you be sure that a PNM with a 3.94 in HS is going to do better in college than a PNM with a 3.78 in HS? I don't think so.

I know at Texas Tech, Tex A&M HS grades are used by some chapters as first round cut. Probably not so at UT since bascially the entire freshmen class is in the top 10% of the HS class or they wouldn't be there.

General advice I give girls who are interested in Greek Life regardless of campus: The more competitive the recruitment, the higher the minimum GPA chapters will look for. The same goes for the more popular the chapter.

Just have to say:
This discussion may be the first, last, and only time I've been glad I'm an advisor at a campus with deferred recruitment!! ;)

cutie- Just curious, do you not consider gpa much of a factor on your campus? I would think that gpa would still be a big deal -especially with deferred recruitment(at semester, right?) to see how the girls are managing with a college load...

Maybe she's referring to the fact that you only have to worry about one standard to judge grades. I know we had several frustrated advisers that couldn't understand why we'd "tsk tsk" at a freshman with a 3.7 but be in awe of a 2nd/3rd year with a 3.2 gpa.

Probably because when recruitment is deferred, you make REAL cuts based on GPA. High school GPAs are not necessarily indicative of how well someone will do in college, but if you wait a semester, there's your answer. It re-sorts everyone instead of splitting hairs for speculation.

Exactly.

I hope some remeber that GPA is very important, but the point also should be taken of how important they may be for the chapter. How else can they help the Chapter. What else did they do pre college.

I founded a local and was on GPA probation until I graduated.

We have been there since 1965 and will be celebrating our Chartering with LXA in 1969 which means 40 Years in 2009!;)

Was it worth it? Heck Yes! Not everyone had The GPA, but became very important for our growth. One is now a District Court Judge and many are business owners or major people with Toyota, Chrysler, John Deere, Catapiller ETAL., from what they learned not only from College, but being part of our group!:)

New teens have more and are more self centered with what they have, but still have a lot to learn in College not just grades, but how to operate with people!;)

What better way? Becoming a member of a Greek of a Society

Exactly. When we look at GPAs for our girls, we know how they measure up against the campus standard. Plus, as a guidance counselor, I know that what is an honor student at high school A would barely be in the top half in high school B. So this evens out the playing field a great deal.

But on the flip side...
Every year, we have a much larger number of girls sign up for Recruitment than actually go through--because grades come out and they are no longer eligible. I've always thought of it from the standpoint that if we had Fall Recruitment, we could work with these girls to get their grades up and have them in our scholarship programs from the beginning. Plus, quota would be higher and we could raise total back to where it was a few years ago. Now I acknowledge how wonderful it is that every girl who pledges is academically eligible to be initiated. Although we stress scholarship (after all, my girls better keep their #1 status on campus!!!), it's not a constant worry like it would be if they were in their first semester. I would hate to have to come to a new member and tell her she wasn't eligible for initiation with her class due to her first semester grades.

It is a luxory that you have am I right? Well for the moment? One never knows from Semester to another.

So, then maybe my question would be, they have great GPA, but what else can they do?;)

Are they totally well rounded?:)

Without speaking about M.S., I can say, yes, my girls are well rounded. Every girl at the college is well-rounded--they are so involved I don't know how they have time to get the grades they do!!

Grades are not the only factor we have, and I sincerely doubt any organization works that way. I certainly wouldn't have gotten in myself if that was all it was based upon! ;)

Not sure what the M S reference is to,

but I congratulate on what your chapter is like and should be admired!:cool:

Keeping the standards up is never easy and it seems that they are doing a fantastic job! That is outstanding!:cool:

Knowing what I have been through and seeing others, it is not easy!

Membership selection.

I like how the University of Memphis Panhellenic site gives the information for each chapter and the GPA they want.

http://saweb.memphis.edu/leadership/ChaptersPC.html

I know several people here at Kansas who had a 3.0 or lower in high school but got in because they met minimum ACT scores. In fact, I graduated high school with a 2.75 but received a 3.7 this past semester at KU! So it's unfortunate that we have to judge by high school grades.

I heard one chapter at my school set a minimum of 3.25, and another set theirs at 3.5. It was just a rumor, but based on these chapters average gpas, it's probably true.

The events in the post you quoted happened 40+ years ago. Things are different now.

I'm confused by something, do chapters look at test scores during recruitment? Because this was mentioned earlier and i have never heard of this.

Where?

there and one post earlier

They're talking about College Admission.

The ACT score as well as the hs gpa are listed on the Recruitment application. Sometimes, if a gpa is low-ish, then the ACT score is brought into the discussion to help form a better picture of the pnm's academic performance.

I have a 2.9 unweighted GPA but a 3.1 weighted GPA and a 30 ACT score. All the house require a 3.0 thou, do I still have a chance at rush?