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Zeta13Girl 04-13-2008 12:44 PM

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SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 12:53 PM

I hate the use of Zeta and Phi Mu - but I have to admit that it looks better than the usual dreck. At least the Zetas have a sense of "individuality". That said, it's not on my list of must-sees.

KenUDiggit 04-13-2008 12:54 PM

Its no big deal.

AXiDTrish 04-13-2008 01:06 PM

I really hate to admit that I laughed....but I did. I agree though, I wish they had used other letters/names.

texas*princess 04-13-2008 01:12 PM

Maybe I saw another trailer, but I don't see a reference to Phi Mu?

And I have to say, unless the group is using the nickname "Zeta" and their house letters are in a blue, does that really mean they are trying to rip off the entire sorority?

If they had everything in common then I'd probably think differently.

I believe the "bunny" reference is in regards to her being a Playboy bunny... unless that happens to be the mascot of Zeta Alpha Zeta.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 01:16 PM

Well, the problem is when you say "Zeta" - who do you think of? Many non-greeks won't get it - but many will, and I'd hate for anyone to see the movie, and go on campus and hear about the "Zetas" and think of this movie. And the Phi some other letter Mus are the evil sorority that is trying to get the "Zetas" kicked out of their house. There are many letter combinations they could have used that have no NPC relations - thus avoiding the problem altogether. I don't think they are ripping off the same sorority, it's just that it references two sororities that would not in a million years, I imagine, allow their names to be used for this movie.

skylark 04-13-2008 01:31 PM

I think it looks cute... but yes offensive to greek life and women, generally. Two redstripes beforehand and I'll be good to go, incapable of any feminist critiques ;-)

texas*princess 04-13-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1633504)
Well, the problem is when you say "Zeta" - who do you think of? Many non-greeks won't get it - but many will, and I'd hate for anyone to see the movie, and go on campus and hear about the "Zetas" and think of this movie. And the Phi some other letter Mus are the evil sorority that is trying to get the "Zetas" kicked out of their house. There are many letter combinations they could have used that have no NPC relations - thus avoiding the problem altogether. I don't think they are ripping off the same sorority, it's just that it references two sororities that would not in a million years, I imagine, allow their names to be used for this movie.

True... =but= I just think we as Greeks get a little carried away with the whole "OMG I HOPE THE GDIS ON MY CAMPUS DON'T THINK WE'RE JUST LIKE THIS SORORITY IN A MOVIE OR TV SHOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LIKE THAT AND WE WANT EVERYONE TO LOVE US AND JOIN US" thing.

Seriously, if there were an ADPi-like sorority on a TV show and some random college kid thought we were all meanies because of the one they saw on TV, wouldn't let it phase me because it's TV!!! Who cares.

It's one thing if the show is portraying Greeks as evil hazers and they use a real org's name and it's quite another when a show or movie uses something that may sound similar and the worst sterotype they can come up with is being the house of meanies.

People who want to hate Greeks or sterotype them ALWAYS WILL. Even if they saw a movie or TV show that made us look like the most awesome people in the world.

There are only so many greek letter combinations they can use, and I honestly doubt the movie execs/writers/whoever go through a massive list of every single GLO to see if there is anything "close". I'm sure they certainly try to make sure they aren't infringing on copyright stuff, but that's about as far as I would expect them to go. If ZTA has "Zeta" copyrighted and there are other major similarities (same sort of letters/colors/mascots/philanthropies/etc) then yea, I'd say there is a problem.

And regarding the "Phi" sorority, are you serious? Just because a sorority has the same number of letters and starts with the same letter does not neccesarily mean they are trying to copy a sorority.

texas*princess 04-13-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeta13Girl (Post 1633511)
If you go to the synopsis it says the rival sorority is phi iota mu.

the bunny relation is the fact that while the symbol isn't national many of our sororities have adopted it as a local symbol my chapter included.

So because the sorority has two greek letters that are actual greek letters of a real sorority that means they are obviously trying to depict Phi Mu!

There are only so many combinations people. If they are ripping off all the other things of that sorority, then it would be an issue.

And unless the Zeta sorority in the movie has a bunny mascot also, I still don't see how they are "obviously" referring to Zeta. The girl in the movie was a PLAYBOY bunny. It's part of the plot. I'm sure if the Zeta sorority used a turtle mascot they would 'obviously' be ripping of Delta Zeta because there is a Zeta in the name and the turtle is their mascot...

Elephant Walk 04-13-2008 01:50 PM

Here's a real video making fun of greeks...

http://videovault.morrisvideos.com/v...ocumentary-bx-

Good lord and y'all wonder why we hate the northern chapters.

You can figure out that part of it is ATO. This one was floating around the FH boards for awhile. It makes me sick. It's probably been on this board before as well.

One of the best lines is...
"If he's 50/50 TKE, fuck him!"

James 04-13-2008 01:51 PM

There are some cuties in that movie. Put it on my list. It looks funny.

SoCalGirl 04-13-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1633496)
I hate the use of Zeta and Phi Mu - but I have to admit that it looks better than the usual dreck. At least the Zetas have a sense of "individuality". That said, it's not on my list of must-sees.

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1633503)
Maybe I saw another trailer, but I don't see a reference to Phi Mu?

And I have to say, unless the group is using the nickname "Zeta" and their house letters are in a blue, does that really mean they are trying to rip off the entire sorority?

If they had everything in common then I'd probably think differently.

I believe the "bunny" reference is in regards to her being a Playboy bunny... unless that happens to be the mascot of Zeta Alpha Zeta.

When Anna Faris walks up to the house it's in bad shape. The sign at one point said ZETA but the E was missing so it only said Z TA. Then the Z falls on her head. :)

Damn it! It looks cute. I'll rent it since it'll likely be in stores by Christmas.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 02:55 PM

TX Princess, I don't think anyone has gotten really worked up about the movie. We've said we wished they had used different letters, but that's about it. Did I miss the "OMG it's so awful" post? I even went so far as to say that it looks better than the average "let's use every stereotype in the book" greek movie, which is insulting more for a lack of creativity than anything else.
Yes, there are only so many combos of letters, but there are plenty that don't reference any NPC sorority at all. "Revenge of the Nerds" managed to avoid any problems. You really think they didn't have any choice but to have Zetas and Phi Mu? The missing e leading to "ZTA" - they HAD to do that? They couldn't have the rivals be Mu Iota Phi? C'mon - someone is having some fun.
This doesn't look like a movie I would want to see no matter what letters they used, but I'm not about to put up a barricade and demand a boycott.

twotimestalia 04-13-2008 03:18 PM

I have no problem with "THE HOUSE BUNNY". Looks "cutesie" and not "serious" in my opinion.

I do have a problem with the HBO doc., It's really sick. If they (those in the film) think that's "brotherhood" I feel sorry for them.

BabyPiNK_FL 04-13-2008 03:33 PM

I've known about this movie for a while. The problem I have is that in the movie at least according to those who have viewed early screenings and imdb.com the Phi Iota Mus are referred to as "Phi Mus" naturally I don't like that. Allegedly nationals knows but I guess there's nothing they can do because it's not technically Phi Mu, but it still offends me. I wish they had just chosen names like Xi Omicron Gamma and Omega Mu Delta or whatever, something that's not too close to actual names!

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 04:01 PM

They should have used any of the names suggested by AKA Monet and xidelt in the "Sorority like this" thread!

texas*princess 04-13-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1633579)
I've known about this movie for a while. The problem I have is that in the movie at least according to those who have viewed early screenings and imdb.com the Phi Iota Mus are referred to as "Phi Mus" naturally I don't like that. Allegedly nationals knows but I guess there's nothing they can do because it's not technically Phi Mu, but it still offends me. I wish they had just chosen names like Xi Omicron Gamma and Omega Mu Delta or whatever, something that's not too close to actual names!

That's really interesting that they would refer to themselves as the "Phi Mus" if Phi was the first letter, there was a letter in between, and then Mu.

Most 3-letter orgs typically go by the first two letters (e.g. Lambda Chi = Lambda Chi Alpha; Delta Sig = Delta Sigma Phi; etc). I know not all GLOs do that (like Pi Phi for instance), I just find it odd that they would do that and Phi Mu is actually a real organization.

AOE2AlphaPhi 04-13-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1633741)
That's really interesting that they would refer to themselves as the "Phi Mus" if Phi was the first letter, there was a letter in between, and then Mu.

Most 3-letter orgs typically go by the first two letters (e.g. Lambda Chi = Lambda Chi Alpha; Delta Sig = Delta Sigma Phi; etc). I know not all GLOs do that (like Pi Phi for instance), I just find it odd that they would do that and Phi Mu is actually a real organization.

Well Pi Beta Phi does go by Pi Phi.

SWTXBelle 04-13-2008 09:46 PM

And what does Kappa Alpha Theta go by? Theta.

texas*princess 04-13-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AOE2AlphaPhi (Post 1633804)
Well Pi Beta Phi does go by Pi Phi.

I know.. which is why I included them in the post:

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Most 3-letter orgs typically go by the first two letters (e.g. Lambda Chi = Lambda Chi Alpha; Delta Sig = Delta Sigma Phi; etc). I know not all GLOs do that (like Pi Phi for instance), I just find it odd that they would do that and Phi Mu is actually a real organization.

Lucky SC 04-13-2008 10:33 PM

i think this trailer is being seriously overanalyzed, its a movie.

AOE2AlphaPhi 04-13-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1633818)
I know.. which is why I included them in the post:

Oops! Sorry

texas*princess 04-13-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeta13Girl (Post 1633775)
Yes there are a limited number of greek letter combinations, but I guess I just find it interesting that in less than a year two tv/movie productions have been created using such similar letter to Zeta Tau Alpha.

abcfamily GREEK - Zeta Beta Zeta

house bunny - Zeta Alpha Zeta

I dont have a problem with the movie I just think its a lil too coincidental for me.

Interesting side note: the women who wrote the script for legally blonde also wrote the script for this movie.


I guess maybe I just don't see how Zeta Beta Zeta or Zeta Alpha Zeta = Zeta Tau Alpha just because they have the greek letter "Zeta" in it.

If anyone should be offended it should be the creators of Zeta Beta Zeta because Zeta ALPHA Zeta is WAY closer to that than it is to Zeta Tau Alpha :rolleyes:

Thetagirl218 04-14-2008 12:02 AM

I don't really see a problem with the movie from the trailer, it actually looks kinda funny!

Now, I know I may feel differently if they had a sorority called the Thetas or KATs.

I do think everything these days referencing Greeks has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Most of us here know that these are stereotypes (I hope we all know this) and we can usually get a good laugh out of it.

As for the documentary, I stopped watching after few minutes, it was just disgusting!

ree-Xi 04-23-2008 10:03 AM

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heres another one I came across.

Is that Chicken Little from American Idol?

honeychile 04-23-2008 10:13 AM

FYI, most Greeks were told to boycott Animal House, because it was "anti-Greek". Let's not push the panic button just yet.

BabyPiNK_FL 04-23-2008 04:10 PM

Katharine McPhee plays a pregnant Zeta Alpha Zeta. Rumer Wilis (Demi and Bruce's and Ashton's kid) plays a ZAZ who's back problem has healed but can't let go of her very visible back brace. Kiely Williams from Cheetah Girls and 3LW plays an (ugh...:mad:) "Phi Mu" (Phi Iota Mu). The "Phi (Iota) Mus" are trying to kick ZAZ out of their house because their chapter is having major issues (recruitment and otherwise and they are social misfits). So you know these "Phi (Iota) Mus" aren't going to "represent" very well.

PANTHERTEKE 04-23-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1638938)
Katharine McPhee plays a pregnant Zeta Alpha Zeta. Rumer Wilis (Demi and Bruce's and Ashton's kid) plays a ZAZ who's back problem has healed but can't let go of her very visible back brace. Kiely Williams from Cheetah Girls and 3LW plays an (ugh...:mad:) "Phi Mu" (Phi Iota Mu). The "Phi (Iota) Mus" are trying to kick ZAZ out of their house because their chapter is having major issues (recruitment and otherwise and they are social misfits). So you know these "Phi (Iota) Mus" aren't going to "represent" very well.

Lol well, on the bright side, at least they're depicting the "Phi Mus" as the hot sorority, as opposed to the social misfit one.

:p

ZetaGirl22 04-24-2008 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1633524)
Here's a real video making fun of greeks...

http://videovault.morrisvideos.com/v...ocumentary-bx-

Good lord and y'all wonder why we hate the northern chapters.

You can figure out that part of it is ATO. This one was floating around the FH boards for awhile. It makes me sick. It's probably been on this board before as well.

One of the best lines is...
"If he's 50/50 TKE, fuck him!"

Uh-oh, the chapter houses they drive past in the beginning of the video looks suspiciously like Fraternity Row at Maryland, my alma mater. It looks kind of old though. Much of the student body DEFINITELY sounds like that (accent wise) at Maryland too....................

jon1856 04-24-2008 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1633524)
Here's a real video making fun of greeks...

http://videovault.morrisvideos.com/v...ocumentary-bx-

Good lord and y'all wonder why we hate the northern chapters.

You can figure out that part of it is ATO. This one was floating around the FH boards for awhile. It makes me sick. It's probably been on this board before as well.

One of the best lines is...
"If he's 50/50 TKE, fuck him!"

EW;
Give it a break. This junk only happens, IYVHO, in Northern Schools and Chapters???:confused:
I saw a link, awhile ago, involving a Southern Chapter (not one of mine) in what I can only call INTERNET porn.
Not only were they and some of the girls wearing letters, they showed a printed invite. And that was in the first few minutes, after which I cleaned out my system with bleach.:eek:;)

While this is a piss-poor showing, IIRC I have seen a few better shows giving a better POV. On A&E or Discovery IIRC.
This one one started with an attitude and a rather clear agenda. Which would make one wonder just how much of it was on the up and up.

katybelle04 04-24-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl (Post 1633531)
When Anna Faris walks up to the house it's in bad shape. The sign at one point said ZETA but the E was missing so it only said Z TA. Then the Z falls on her head. :)


this is the part that i didn't like about it. as a zeta i don't like to see my letters on something like this... i realize that its only a movie and all that, but I don't like the way they put my organizations letters into it like that... they could have found another way to be funny, or use different letters or something. Not cool imo.

jon1856 04-24-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeta13Girl (Post 1639329)
I notice that most of the men in the 5 minutes I watched it seemed to have either new york or Boston accents. Something that definitely made the documentary lose its credibility was the amount of times the people were using the F bomb in the movie. I don't know anyone much less a college student who would talk like this. So its kind of hard for me to believe that a fraternity or sorority member would talk like this especially if they knew that they were being filmed. It's all just a little "shady" to me.

Agree-what group is going to let two outsiders/non-students take part in the last three weeks of Pledging while running a camera?
The more one reviewed this film, the less of a true documentary it became. Just MVHO.

Honeykiss1974 04-24-2008 01:03 PM

Cute movie! Since I like Anna Faris I would totally watch this on USA on some random Saturday afternoon because nothing else was on TV.

Although, it does look like a rip from Legally Blonde with the whole "pretty girl turns smart and finds a goal in life theme" - its still cute and I doubt if people will give it much thought.

MTSUGURL 04-24-2008 04:25 PM

I think it looks cute and will probably go see it. Now, I'm not going to suggest to my girls that they show it at a recruitment event and say beaming, "This is exactly what sisterhood is like! Any questions?"

PM_Mama00 04-24-2008 06:02 PM

I'd watch it, and I'm a Phi Mu. Although I think it's funny that on the main page, Phi Iota Mu is in pink. And the color combinations are pretty "coincidental".

ztagirlthetaeta 06-04-2008 03:01 PM

I think this is in a way offensive.
 
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Originally Posted by katybelle04 (Post 1639320)
this is the part that i didn't like about it. as a zeta i don't like to see my letters on something like this... i realize that its only a movie and all that, but I don't like the way they put my organizations letters into it like that... they could have found another way to be funny, or use different letters or something. Not cool imo.

I'm a Zeta and I completely agree with this statement. I was watching Greek on ABC when I first saw the commercial and I had to rewind and fast forward the thing like ten times to see it for real. It would of been cool if they had like ZAZ on the house like they do in Greek with ZBZ, but the fact that our letters were perfectly noticable (color and everything, I mean even the girls shirt was steel grey and turquoise) kind of sucks. I think it looks like a cute movie, but I don't want to see my letters associated with something like playboy or the "social misfits" of the campus.

tld221 06-04-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess (Post 1633741)
That's really interesting that they would refer to themselves as the "Phi Mus" if Phi was the first letter, there was a letter in between, and then Mu.

Most 3-letter orgs typically go by the first two letters (e.g. Lambda Chi = Lambda Chi Alpha; Delta Sig = Delta Sigma Phi; etc). I know not all GLOs do that (like Pi Phi for instance), I just find it odd that they would do that and Phi Mu is actually a real organization.

interestingly, we're the only org in D9 that gets a nickname with all 3 of our letters. Well, us and the AKAs but i think that is a little more fluid and natural than saying "SGRs". I notice only guys throw single-letter nicknames at us (Ks and Rhos) and it sounds a little ridiculous.

33girl 06-04-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1639623)
I'd watch it, and I'm a Phi Mu. Although I think it's funny that on the main page, Phi Iota Mu is in pink. And the color combinations are pretty "coincidental".

IMO this is what makes me turn the thumbs down on this more than the bunny connection. I would be more likely to think the letters were just random if they were ZAZ and their colors were green and white. But they go by Zeta, and they wear blue & gray? Come on.

As far as Animal House is concerned, the fraternity it was modeled after was a local at the time of the filming, and the movie was written by an alumnus of the fraternity. That's quite a bit different. I mean, I look at this movie and I think it's someone who has a grudge w/ ZTA and wants them to look "nerdy."

tld221 06-04-2008 03:21 PM

This is kinda like when Big Walt came out with this movie. Coincidence, with the colors and the letters?

i'm glad it went straight to DVD. the trailer is comedic gold but wouldve sucked in the theater.

nate2512 06-04-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by katybelle04 (Post 1639320)
this is the part that i didn't like about it. as a zeta i don't like to see my letters on something like this... i realize that its only a movie and all that, but I don't like the way they put my organizations letters into it like that... they could have found another way to be funny, or use different letters or something. Not cool imo.

Yep, but The House Bunny doesn't look like its going straight to DVD. I think it'll be pretty funny, Happy Madison films generally don't completely flop too many movies.


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