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AlphaSigLana 08-10-2001 08:49 PM

FAT!!!
 
Tonight i am going to a party for one of my soror's bc she will be doing an intern at Disney World. SO I was getting ready and put on jeans I haven't wore in a few months- I had to jump up and down to get into them. My mom has been telling me I've been getting fat and I this just confirms it. I feel gross and am so mad bc Iwill be going back to school in a wk and i wanted to look good in case my ex saw me so he could see what he is missing!!! Well He is missing a fat chick. anyway I needed to vent my frustration!

KillarneyRose 08-10-2001 09:27 PM

Lana! Don't worry about it! I always used to put on a couple of pounds when I was home for the summer. Afterall, there isn't much to do at home except for eat and watch soaps (at least for me!). Once you get back to school and get into your routine again the weight you put on will melt off and you'll be back to your old self in no time!

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GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE DZ COLLEGIANS DURING RUSH!!!

Lil_G 08-10-2001 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose:
Lana! Don't worry about it! I always used to put on a couple of pounds when I was home for the summer. Afterall, there isn't much to do at home except for eat and watch soaps (at least for me!). Once you get back to school and get into your routine again the weight you put on will melt off and you'll be back to your old self in no time!


Really Tracy? Here it's usually the opposite. Gain weight during the year and lose it over the summer.

Just recently there was an in-depth survey about obesity in Canada done by the Globe and Mail in conjuction with CTV . The news...not very good. 48% of the country is considered overweight, damn that's awful. The worst City: St.Catharines at a staggering 67%. The average weight of males has rised by 9 pounds in the last ten years, etc., etc. I was gonna start a thread about this but I didn't want to offend anybody.

Thrillhouse 08-10-2001 11:13 PM

Lana, don't worry about it like killarneyrose said. During school you, just like everyone else, is so busy with classes, greek life, etc that you will shed some weight without thinking about it too much.

Turtlegirl 08-10-2001 11:28 PM

THAE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME!!!
Except it happened at school, not this summer. I was going cheerily along, thinking I had successfully dodged the infamous Freshman 15, when all of a sudden, I could not squeeze my new large self into my old small clothes (okay they weren't tiny to begin with, but they were a nice average cute size). I was of course majorly annoyed (Especially with everyone around me for not dropping any hints that I was "expanding" and letting me go on believing everything was fine) But then I got really, really sick and couldn't eat and was throwing up for days, and I miraculously went back to my old size. Definitely not the best way to lose weight, but I was able to keep it off since I am now more aware that the Freshman 15 is NOT a myth.
But don't worry, I'm sure you'll have no problem getting svelte again, especially since you're starting a new exercise routine. Good Luck!

juniorgrrl 08-11-2001 12:06 AM

Lana, don't worry about it, girl http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Once you start exercising, especially if its not something you usually do, the weight will just melt right off.

Anyway, I know a while back you posted your weight before, and its less than me, so you can feel better about that http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Good Luck!

KillarneyRose 08-11-2001 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by Lil_G:
Really Tracy? Here it's usually the opposite. Gain weight during the year and lose it over the summer.
Nope, not me! Maybe it had to do with the fact that I was always so damn broke in college that I couldn't AFFORD to pig out at school! Besides, I always had people forcing me to jog with them or play soccer or whatever.

--Tracy

Thrillhouse 08-11-2001 02:34 AM

killarneyrose, how about basketball? I know what you mean though, there are always people bugging me to go over to the fieldhouse. My least favorite game is racquetball.

Serenity 08-11-2001 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by AlphaSigLana:
Tonight i am going to a party for one of my soror's bc she will be doing an intern at Disney World. SO I was getting ready and put on jeans I haven't wore in a few months- I had to jump up and down to get into them. My mom has been telling me I've been getting fat and I this just confirms it. I feel gross and am so mad bc I will be going back to school in a wk and i wanted to look good in case my ex saw me so he could see what he is missing!!! Well He is missing a fat chick. anyway I needed to vent my frustration!
Oh boy, have I been there, Lana!

My take is a little different. I say, go buy one or two new outfits that make you feel and look great. Get your hair and nails done. Doesn't have to be anything dramatic, just pamper yourself. Step on to campus looking and feeling good about yourself. The extra pounds will come off soon enough, but until then, don't stress yourself out about it and be depressed. Stress causes wrinkles. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif


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ZTAMich 08-11-2001 10:39 AM

The at home weight gain is so true for me as well. At school I get to pretty much pick what I eat and usualy eat really healthy. I also have a free gym to use and get lots of walking in also. Similar to some of ya'll now that I'm home I just sit around and do nothing! Last summer my mom and I went low-carb but not this summer. I can't wait to get back to school and put some miles on the treadmill!
One peice of advice: don't go clothes shopping right now. Not bc you may be in a different size but bc it's back to school time. I was in JCPenny's and almost told off the girl who was compaling that the size 3 Mudd jeans didn't fit her...meanwhile I'm trying to get in a size 7...


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James 08-11-2001 09:33 PM

This message is a little bit different . . . but if you want to look farly different in about a week you can . . .

This is what you do . . . East meat, cheese, mayonaise as much as you want. . . eat fat and protein no carbs . . . Carbs are:

Pasta potato rice bread etc . . .

Drink alcohol only one night . . . and make sure its only hard alchol, preferably vodka or whiskey. They have the least amount of calories.

First thing in the morning on an empty stomach . . . go walk up and down steps for 20 minutes (or as close as you can come to that). Could be a single flight of steps.

You brun off 300 percent more fat on an empty stomach first thing in the morning.

At night go for an hour walk listening to your favorite tunes.

Drink 120 ounces of water a day.

Take Xenadrine before workout in the morning and 2 hours before night walk . . .

You should drop about 5-10 pounds . . . shrug.

When you come off the diet . . gradually introduce more carbs!

Good luck http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif


Thrillhouse 08-11-2001 10:14 PM

This message might be a bit different too but you can eat nothing but grapefruit for a week http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif Seriously these are short term but never help out long term.

James 08-11-2001 11:55 PM

Well actually a lot of low carb diet variations are excellent for permanent fat loss over time. I just put one down for a quick result.

aephi alum 08-12-2001 12:45 AM

I highly recommend a low carb diet... I've lost a lot of weight on the Atkins diet myself. Similar to what James is recommending.

- Lots of meat, fish, eggs, etc
- Salad veggies (lettuce, cucumber, etc)
- Other low carb veggies - broccoli, cauliflower, etc - all those things you loved to hate when you were little http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
- Cheese, cream
- Lots of water - 8 x 8 oz glasses per day
- Be wary of alcohol, because your body metabolizes it first, before carbs or fat. Ditto with caffeine.

I can point you to a few good sources of info - just drop me a line. If nothing else, get Dr. A.'s book and read it. Even if you don't subscribe to the low carb diet, read Dr. Atkins' book. Give it a chance ~ because I know a lot of people (myself and my husband included) for whom it's worked!

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juniorgrrl 08-12-2001 01:00 AM

Maybe this is just because I'm a carb-addict, but I don't believe that those diets work long term.

I've found the best thing overall is eating most foods in moderation. If you want cake, eat half of what you normally would. Don't go whole hog, but don't make yourself feel badly about not being able to have any. I also find its helpful to drink water. If you can get off soft drinks, try to do so. They just make you bloated and puffy. That combined with 30 min on the treadmill every day helped me lose my freshman 15 http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

AlphaSigLana 08-12-2001 02:19 AM

Thanks guys! I know that I have drank way too much soda this summer and I need to quit. Of course what does the sorority house have- a whole table of just junk food plus sodas! Anyway doesn't xenadrin have phen-fen in it which is bad for you?

James 08-12-2001 04:04 AM

Phen-Phen is a perscription drug. One part Phentramine (speed) and one part fenfleuramine (sp) an appetite supressant I believe. The second part of it caused the heart problems. They still prescribe the speed part.

Xenadrine is an ephedrine caffeine combination, using natural source material.

Epherine has been much maligned recently in the media. But unless you have a serious heart condition or bad asthma it won't bother you.

The ephedrine and caffeine has been shown in clinical studies to enhance fat loss. If you want to knwo all the science behind it . . . I'll go into it later. *yawn* Tired now.

Simple ways to think of weight loss.

Real definition of diet: What you take in your body.

What people think it means: What they take into their bodies when trying to lose weight.

Important difference. Usually people "diet" to lose the weight their "normal diet" put on them. And then go back onto that "normal diet" and wonder why they gain the weight back . . . I despair!

"Silly Rabbits, tricks are for kids!"

diet times lifestyle equals appearance.

Lifestyle is your basic activity level, and sleep patterns . . . If you are very active and sleep correctly, you can get away with a better diet. Lifestyle has a more powerful effect on appearance than diet.

So, pick what you want to look like and adjust your lifestyle and diet to match that look . . . Don't change diet and lifestyle to look better, and expect to keep that look if you revert to the pattern that made you out of shape to begin with!

I'll probably post something on training and diet manipulation later . . . I've read a lot of the posts on training and will say they are well intentioned but many don't show a scientific appreciation of correct training and diet manipulation.

As far as the low carb thing . . . people look at Atkins or its variations (the diet has been around for a long time before him) as a diet to lose weight . . . Which it is kind of. What it is really, is a diet that recognizes that your body's inability to process carbs very well makes you fatter than you would be otherwise . . . its a subtle but important distinction. Because it what it shows is that if you want to keep the weight off you HAVE to lower the carbs to below the level you were eating before.



James 08-12-2001 04:05 AM

Oh a soda a day will put 2-4 pounds on you a month http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

LeslieEMU 08-12-2001 08:13 AM

I too have gained ten pounds this summer and I am furious!!! It's so much easier to put it on than take it off! When I'm at school I always stay at the same weight because even if I eat junk food all the time, I walk around campus all day. During the summer, I sit at a desk all day. Right now about 5 of my sisters are on the Weight Watchers point system and it has really worked for them. I think my problem is that I can go most of the day without being hungry but at night when I sit down and watch tv I get major munchies! Anyone else have this problem?

Lil_G 08-12-2001 11:00 AM

Well Dr. James summed up pretty much everything I was gonna say. Nevertheless, here's a few more tips that you may find beneficial.

Drink one or two cups a coffee a day. Scientific research continues to prove the positives that caffeine does for your body. When it comes to losing weight, most of the standarad ephedrine-caffeine-aspirirn weight loss pills (that James mentioned) are loaded with it because caffeine speeds up your metabolism and breaks down fat cells. If you really want to go for the healthy choice, select Green Tea instead.

Meal Replacements are excellent sources to cut calories. Whether it be Whey Protein or a homemade shake.
One question: these low-carb diets, why is it alright to eat lots of cheese? It's loaded with fat.


aephi alum 08-12-2001 11:18 AM

It's not ok to eat lots of cheese because it does have carbs. But the idea on a low carb diet is to count carbs and not worry about the fat. Your body burns carbs first (converting them into fat if you eat too much), then bodily fat. For some reason (Dr. Atkins explains this) your body burns bodily fat before dietary fat.

Personally, I never bought into the concept, and I follow a diet that is low carb and relatively low fat.

Hmmm, Lil_G, I never thought about the caffeine thing. I've just found a justification for my coffee habit!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

carnation 08-12-2001 11:21 AM

I've advised my own kids to take a P.E. course every semester. It insures that they'll get exercise, teaches them a new skill, and will get them an hour of "A" credit unless they screw around in class, which isn't permitted for members of this family!

PX_rush2001 08-12-2001 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by James:
Oh a soda a day will put 2-4 pounds on you a month http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
...and up to thirty pounds in a year for a person who is not active. It's all those empty calories.

Kevlar281 08-12-2001 01:08 PM

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Xenadrine is an ephedrine caffeine combination, using natural source material.
I just thought I would mention the negative aspects of xenadrine, now I know a lot of people that have taken it, combined with a work out plan and have had no problems. But xenadrine is an amphetamine (speed) don’t fool yourself about its dangers, im a big guy at 6’7” 280 lbs and one pill of that stuff gets my heart pounding, I would hate to see what it does to a smaller person. Basically people push themselves to hard when trying to lose weight (that’s why so many people quit) so xenadrine plus a tough cardio program and low calorie intake, could put you at risk for heart failure. Just something to think about, there’s no magic pill that’s going to make you lose weight, just a lot of hard work. Its good to push yourself but always know your limits.


AlphaSigLana 08-12-2001 01:12 PM

Kevlar- thanks for mentioning Xenadrine and its negative effects. I am 5'3 and that stuff sounds deadly for a person like me.
The sad part is I used to play sports in high school- cross country, track, swim team, v-ball/basketball-jr.high. Now I can barely run a few laps without be exhausted.

AlphaSigLana 08-12-2001 01:12 PM

Kevlar- thanks for mentioning Xenadrine and its negative effects. I am 5'3 and that stuff sounds deadly for a person like me.
The sad part is I used to play sports in high school- cross country, track, swim team, v-ball/basketball-jr.high. Now I can barely run a few laps without being exhausted.

Lil_G 08-12-2001 03:42 PM

Kev - Yeah there is an inherent danger of taking too many of those pills. The problem is the "recommended" dosage is too high for anyone. Most ppl down a ton and then can't sleep for days. There was a 22 year old male from Toronto that had a heart attack because he took too many ephedrine combination pills. For some ppl that are obese it probably would give them a heart attack. I saw a guy I knew who just started working out at the gym and he told me his heart-rate was well over 200 beats a minute. I can just barely get in the High Zone at 174 beats a minute, but the last time I did I was running so hard another 30 seconds and I would have puked.

Carnation - That's so true. I see many kids where I work, today they are fatter than ever. The worse part is when they're like that at such a young age it's almost impossible for them to lose the weight.

APhi 08-12-2001 05:11 PM

About the xenadrine (what we jokingly call "trucker speed.") I used to work with a guy who was really into fitness and was taking that Ripped Fuel supplement. The worst side affect I saw was how irritable it can make you. Do you ever get a little snappy when you've had too much coffee? This stuff makes that 10x worse. Also, I'm not quite 5'6'' and I took one of those once. I felt like I'd just had a POT of coffee - shaking, heart pounding, freaking out, etc. But wait, there's more. You can get addicted to that stuff. When you try to come off of it you'll have full withdrawl symptoms. (Headache, craving, major irritability) I really liked the idea about green tea.

dzsaigirl 08-12-2001 06:52 PM

My advice on losing weight is to drink lots and lots of water all day long and walk for 30 min or so outside. The water keeps your system flushed and is good for your skin and keeps you feeling full. The walking will give you energy and that great workout glow http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Plus, you burn cals. Do not try to go too wild on the dieting 'cause when you start goin' out to eat with your sisters again you'll gain it back. Just try to eat smarter, drink water and walk.....you will look fit in no-time!

Lil_G 08-12-2001 09:05 PM

APHi you have to be careful when taking anything that speeds your heart up but If you know what you're doing it's not too bad. In school I occasionally took one of the standard ephedrine-aspirin-caffeine combos everynow and then...ONe time I was a little behind for an essay, so i downed one of these (hyper cuts) at 10 and another around 2 and I was up all-night. On only 20 minutes sleep i managed to get it done and have enough energy to keep me going for a part of the day. There's other ones that don't contain so much caffeine but is replaced with other ingredients which eliminate a lot of the side-effects. I never got headaches or anything like that while I took these bad boys.

aephi alum 08-12-2001 09:29 PM

I would not take drugs if you have a weight problem that can be fixed through diet. If it can't be fixed through diet, that's another story. But I know a lot of people for whom a low carb diet has kept them off meds (borderline diabetics, etc).

A suggestion: Drink 8 8-oz glasses of water a day (this will get rid of water weight); stop drinking soda (except diet soda in limited quantities); cut all simple sugars out of your diet. Most diets have these 3 things in common. Do this, and then see what happens.

I highly recommend the Diet Rite ~ it's sweetened with Splenda (sucralose) which is made from sugar, but your body doesn't digest it like sugar. It tastes just like "real" soda.

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juniorgrrl 08-13-2001 12:34 AM

When I was fretting about weight gain once, my mom said something that put it all in perspective - "You didn't gain it all at once, so don't expect to lose it all at once"

I'm really wary of all the "diet supplements" ever since I had a bad experience with Metabolife. For the week I was on it, my heart would race and I was just waaaaay too sped up. And the 2 or 3 lbs I lost came right back when I stopped it.

I find that a Slim-Fast shake is a quick way to get a low-cal lunch when I'm in a rush - much much better for you than drive-thru. Also, I've found that Diet Mt. Dew, with all its caffeine speeds up my metabolism.

Although, brute force, i.e. exercise seems to be the best way to get weight off and keep it off. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif

Thrillhouse 08-13-2001 12:48 AM

Right on juniorgirl, excersize is a great way to go to keep the weight off. That is my method, I usually eat what I want but usually play b-ball or rollerblade to keep the weight from sticking.

ZTAMich 08-13-2001 12:49 AM

Low-Carb plus a good Cardio workout can really work. I lost about 10lbs over one month last summer eating less than 30gm Carb and running 5miles a day...there are so many diets out there but you cannot just diet alone. Exercise has to be in there somewhere.

There's a great soda out there that is caffeine, sugar (aspertime too) and sodium free...Diet Rite. Lable has all zeroes on it and it STILL tastes pretty good. I started noticing my one can of diet coke a nite as a late snack was catching up to me so diet rite is the way for me now.

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AlphaChiGirl 08-13-2001 01:30 AM

I tend to gain a lot of weight during the summer (when I'm doing nothing but eating), and drop it all within a month of being back at school. The only time that didn't happen was first semester freshman year--I was a coxswain, and instead of dropping weight, I was gaining because all I'd do is run to practice and exercise while I was there. So, I ended up gaining a lot of muscle weight. I tend to drop weight just by walking everywhere, taking the stairs (old buildings don't have elevators that often) and eating cafeteria food (yuk).

CutiePie2000 08-13-2001 09:14 AM

Buy SHAPE magazine and read it...every month they have 2-3 stories about women who have overcome obstacles and lost weight. They're very inspiring and may help to buoy you up and feel more positive! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

MoxieGrrl 08-13-2001 05:15 PM

AlphaSigLana: I was also very active in sports in high school, then fell away from everything in college. The best way I found to get myself back into shape was running on the Elipsis (sp?) machine. It simulates running, but does not put stress on your knees like running on a track. We have one at my college gym, and I'm addicted!

On the discussion of diet suppliments...I liked Diet Fuel from GNC. I know it was bad for me, but it gave me the psychological boost that I needed to stay motivated. I went off of it after I lost 5 pounds and haven't gained the weight back!

ZTAMich 08-13-2001 07:08 PM

Shape is a great magazine and Self is really good too. There's a wide variety of health related items it both magazines.
aephi alumn (blush at my typo) I didn't know Splenda was in Diet Rite. Whatever it is it sure tastes good http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gifWhile an ingredient like Splenda is on my mind, anyone else preffer WOW chips and such to the regular fattening ones? I like them when I treat myself to chips but my body always has 'issues' afterwards. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
MoxieGrrl the Elipsis sounds sooo good. I wish we had one. I wonder if it would do anything to help ankles, which are my problem area as well as knees. I had a sprain a year ago and it acts up every now and then http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif And gets sore when it's going to rain too. Everyone I know hates treadmills and would rather run outside but it seems to be the best thing for me. I'm not usually tempted to change my speed bc i know other ppl are around. I go back to school Wednesday and can't wait to get a gym routine going asap.

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Lil_G 08-13-2001 10:54 PM

Geuss I'm one of the few who likes the treadmill. I go on the endurance uphill exercise for 18 minutes at 7.5 setting and when it's at the peak I crank it up to 10 setting for an all-out sprint for 3 minutes. On my cardio days I also spend 20 on the bike, 10 on the rower, and 25 on the elipitical.
The elipitical machine is alright, the only downside is that it greatly exaggerates the amount of calories burned.

KSig RC 08-14-2001 01:14 AM

I tend to get into the 'science' of this stuff way more than I should . . . so here's some stuff, after reading the whole thread:

-James's suggestion is pretty solid - try it, it's hard but probably worth it, and the logic is solid.

-Ephedrine/caffeine - sure, this stuff can mess you up, but if you feed lab rats their own body weight in water every day for a few months, the water causes cancer. If you don't want to go all the way to the doses in the type of medications described earlier, find sudafed-type medication w/out psuedodrine (you'll want the 'real stuff') and with caffeine - they do exist - and take the recommended doses of these. It's sort of the 'lite' version, and hockey players and baseball players have done it for years to increase workout efficiency and game-time readiness.

-Atkins diet - studies show that, for most people, the reason it works is because it causes you to cut out the majority of 'junk food' in your diet. Seriously - what do most people cut? Chips, sodas, candy, french fries . . . etc. - if you don't want to ditch carbs entirely, then try to limit these types of foods (which is pretty basic diet knowledge anyway - so i guess try to adjust the atkins diet to why you're cutting out foods).

-According to Men's Health, the average male loses 8-10 lbs in three months, just by cutting out juices and sodas from his diet . . .

-Also - don't limit yourself just to cardio work. For people who worked out doing cardio 3 times a week and weight work 3 times (two sessions overlapped, happening in the same day, for four sessions of 1 hr a week) a week, for two months, the average weight loss was in the neighborhood of 3-8% of total body weight, with net gain in muscle mass and a huge loss in bodyfat percentage. For those that just did 5 cardio workouts a week, they lost slightly more overall weight but had much lower cuts in bodyfat and had a net loss in muscle mass. The point? You'll want to keep tone etc., and keep your body "filled out" while losing weight - so add some light weight training to the workout. Even women.

-Also - those that added some form of weight training had much higher metabolic rates than those doing just cardio - this helps you keep weight off, and also you'll continue burning calories even after you've left the gym - you'll get more for less.

-Do exercises that work multiple muscle groups first - this helps get the body going in a workout, and over the initial energy barrier to start burning calories (and thus fat). Make exercises that work one specific group wait to the end. This means start at the squat rack, etc, then move to preacher curls.

-Do your weight work before you do cardio - some people feel more comfortable 'warming up' with their cardio workout first, but studies show that you'll get more out of the cardio work by starting the body off with weight-training exercises - and you'll get more out of the weight training by doing it at the beginning.

OK - well these are mostly from Men's Health and Muscle and Fitness - i'm not a huge lifter or fitness buff by any stretch of the imagination, but i suppose i drink enough beers and eat enough McDonald's during the year that I need to hit the gym to keep the gut at least somewhat in check - and i figure if i'm going to do it, I'd rather find the way to do it efficiently!


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