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Tom Earp 03-24-2008 06:19 PM

State Flags
 
I was thinking about this Sunday as I was board!

The State Flags that seem to stick in our minds?

Mine:

Texas, New Mexico. and Tenn!

Plain and simple may be the key.

PhoenixAzul 03-24-2008 06:34 PM

Heh, my PA state flag has gone very far with me. I'm a fan.
http://www.50states.com/flag/image/nunst064.gif
It's hanging above my bed in my flat here in Glasgow. People always ask me if it's a football (soccer) flag because of the crest.
Pardon the smarmy look, was getting ready to go to a ceilidh.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...l/IMG_0222.jpg

AGDLynn 03-24-2008 06:41 PM

As for Georgia..which version do you want?;)

PeppyGPhiB 03-24-2008 06:59 PM

It's hard to mistake Washington's
 
http://www.50states.com/flag/image/nunst077.gif

AGDee 03-24-2008 07:05 PM

Michigan's has similarities to Pennsylvania's...
http://www.theinmatelocator.com/imag...higan_flag.jpg

catiebug 03-24-2008 07:09 PM

And then there's Connecticut.

http://www.ctcmsa.org/CT_Flag.gif

Kevlar281 03-24-2008 08:43 PM

Texas - Obviously. I like the fact we incorperated the Bonnie Blue design onto the flag.

Maryland's Flag - I don't know what it is about it but I like it.

South Carolina - I've come to really like their flag. However, when we played the University of South Carolina in a bowl game two years back I was a little shocked to see their state flag laid on the ground. :eek:

navane 03-24-2008 08:51 PM

http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/22491/...state_flag.jpg


Yes, I'm biased.


I really like the flag of the state of California. It just doesn't look like any other flag in the union and it harkens back to a time when, for a very brief moment, we were our own Republic. And Cuffy (the bear) is just cool. :cool:

.....Kelly :)

navane 03-24-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1623264)
Maryland's Flag - I don't know what it is about it but I like it.

Maryland's flag is kind of busy; but, it is also distinct.

The same goes for Arizona, my brothers and sisters to the east.

Indiana, Alaska and South Carolina are also neat 'cause they're different.

.....Kelly :)

Thetagirl218 03-24-2008 09:12 PM

http://www.englishandwhite.com/siteb...of_florida.gif





Yea for the Sunshine State! Please note there are no oranges on flag....nor Disney world...

BabyPiNK_FL 03-24-2008 09:39 PM

I love love LOVE our state flag.

Senusret I 03-24-2008 10:05 PM

http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/us-dc-protest.gif

www.dcvote.org

not the real flag, btw

honeychile 03-24-2008 10:11 PM

For those who love trivia: the flag of Maryland is the only state flag which properly has a cross at the top, not a ball.


http://www.bcps.org/offices/lis/mode...ges/mdflag.gif


The quadrants symbolize the paternal & maternal sides of George Calvert, First Lord of Baltimore, and the original colonist of Maryland.

honeychile 03-24-2008 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1623320)

I love it!!


Btw, I think Ohio has one of the most original flags.

BuckeyeTriDelta 03-24-2008 10:54 PM

http://www.50states.com/flag/image/nunst058.gif


Yes ours is very cool. The only flag shaped like a burgee in the U.S. (and I think the world but I might be wrong).

CutiePie2000 03-24-2008 11:03 PM

This is my "state" flag:
http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/images/c/ca-bc.gif
'Tis the flag of British Columbia

scbelle 03-25-2008 04:56 AM

Ok, since it's been mentioned, but not posted... for all the smiling faces and beautiful places of South Carolina:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11.../sc%20flag.jpg

honeychile 03-25-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scbelle (Post 1623436)
Ok, since it's been mentioned, but not posted... for all the smiling faces and beautiful places of South Carolina:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11.../sc%20flag.jpg

I've often wondered shy South Carolina has such an odd moon. Would you know?

AlethiaSi 03-25-2008 11:36 AM

http://www.50states.com/flag/image/nunst053.gif
Quote:

Emblazoned on a dark blue field is the state coat of arms. The goddess Liberty holds a pole with a Liberty Cap on top. Liberty stands for freedom. At her feet is a discarded crown, representing freedom from England at the end of the revolutionary war. On the right is the goddess, Justice. She wears a blindfold and carries the scales of justice. Meaning that everyone receives equal treatment under the law. The state motto "Excelsior" on a white ribbon expresses the idea of reaching upward to higher goals. On the shield a sun rises over the Hudson highlands and ships sail the Hudson river. Above the shield is an eagle resting on a globe representing the Western Hemisphere.
I'm from NY so that's my fave... I also came across Alaska's which I thought was pretty neat:
http://www.flagsource.com/images/AK.GIF
Quote:

When the United State purchased the Alaskan region from Russia in 1867, most Americans thought it was a crazy idea. For many years after, Alaska fought to become a state, but Congress refused to admit this cold, desolate place. In 1926, Alaskan members of the American Legion decided they needed more publicity for Alaska, so they held a contest in the grade schools for a design of a territorial flag. Benny Benson, an orphaned 13 year old, won the contest. When Alaska was finally adopted as a state in 1959, the flag design stayed. The only change was the blue hue of the background. Originally it matched the blue of forget-me-nots, the state flower; the revised color matches the blue on the American flag. The stars depict the Big Dipper constellation, symbolizing strength. The North Star was said to represent the future state of Alaska and its far northerly position.

AlethiaSi 03-25-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1623507)
I've often wondered shy South Carolina has such an odd moon. Would you know?

I got this from wikipedia (so note the source....)
Quote:

The origin of the crescent as a symbol for Charleston and for South Carolina has been lost to time; however, various theories abound. One hypothesis is that it stems from the crescent as the heraldic symbol of a second son. It is true that many of the early colonists would have been second (and third, etc.) sons who had no inheritance in England, and whose coats of arms would have therefore borne crescents; thus, perhaps the crescent was adopted as a symbol for the colony. An alternative hypothesis notes that crescents are found on the coat-of-arms of the Bull family, which was prominent in the early days of the colony and even produced one of Charleston's more illustrious Royal Governors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_South_Carolina

scbelle 03-25-2008 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1623507)
I've often wondered shy South Carolina has such an odd moon. Would you know?

Based on what I learned in SC History (yes, I'm a good Sandlapper!), it is not really a moon, but a depiction of a symbol which Revolution fighters from the state wore on their hats under Colonel Moultrie, who designed the original state flag.

jon1856 03-25-2008 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1623280)
http://www.englishandwhite.com/siteb...of_florida.gif





Yea for the Sunshine State! Please note there are no oranges on flag....nor Disney world...

True no oranges or Disney.
But one does have to wonder if Disney in one way or another is the reason that is flag which was used during the War between the States that the NAACP has not yet protested.

Drolefille 03-25-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1623571)
True no oranges or Disney.
But one does have ot wonder if Disney in one way or another is the reason that this is the only flag which was used during the War between the States that the NAACP has not yet protested.

Why in the world would Disney be related to that?

jon1856 03-25-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1623670)
Why in the world would Disney be related to that?

Florida $$$$ in tourism;):D
Most likely greater than any other Southern State.
As I posted, one way or another. Did not have to mean directly.;)

Drolefille 03-25-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1623675)
Florida $$$$ in tourism;):D
Most likely greater than any other Southern State.
As I posted, one way or another. Did not have to mean directly.;)

No, you posted that one had to ask the question. I think it's a silly question and much more related to the fact that the Florida flag doesn't "look" like the common conception of a Confederate flag.

The NAACP has no particular interest in Florida's tourism over that of Myrtle Beach, SC.

MysticCat 03-25-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1623187)
Michigan's has similarities to Pennsylvania's...

And to the other 20+ "seal on a blue bedsheet" flags. I mean, I certainly understand that people can love and respect these flags, but one has to admit -- when they're hanging from a flag pole and there is no wind, it can be very hard to distinguish one from another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeTriDelta (Post 1623364)
The only flag shaped like a burgee in the U.S. (and I think the world but I might be wrong).

There are plenty of burgees in the world, but no other that I know of as a national or state/provinicial/departmental flag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1623571)
But one does have ot wonder if Disney in one way or another is the reason that this is the only flag which was used during the War between the States that the NAACP has not yet protested.

Except that it wasn't used during the Civil War. The current Florida flag wasn't adopted until 1900. This is the flag Florida used during the Civil War:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-fl-61.gif

This is the flag Florida used after the Civil War until 1900:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-fl868.gif

BTW, South Carolina, Virginia and Texas all currently use essentially the same flags they used during the Civil War, and I don't recall any protests about those flags.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1623168)
Plain and simple may be the key.

Precisely! Like good heraldry, good vexillography (flag design) relies on simplicity and distinctiveness.

Okay, I'm about to get really geeky on all y'all (okay, more geeky than normal :D)

The North American Vexillological Association did a survey back in 2001 of State, Provincial and Territorial Flags. NAVA members and others were asked to rate flags based on the five basic principles listed in NAVA’s publication on flag design, Good Flag, Bad Flag: How to Design a Good Flag. Those principles are:
  • Keep It Simple: The flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory
  • Use Meaningful Symbolism: The flag’s images, colors, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes
  • Use 2–3 Basic Colors: Limit the number of colors on the flag to three, which contrast well and come from the standard color set
  • No Lettering or Seals: Never use writing of any kind or an organization’s seal
  • Be Distinctive or Be Related: Avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections
(That publication does note that "All rules have exceptions. Colorado's 'C' is a stunning graphic element. Maryland's complicated heraldic quarters produce a memorable and distinctive flag. But depart from these five principles only with caution and purpose.")

The top ten flags were:

1. New Mexico
2. Texas
3. Quebec
4. Maryland
5. Alaska
6. Arizona
7. Puerto Rico
8. The District of Columbia
9. The Marshall Islands
10 South Carolina (my favorite)

The bottom ten were:

63. New Hamphire
64. Idaho
65. Wisconsin
66. Kentucky
67. Minnesota
68. South Dakota
69. Kansas
70. Montana
71. Nebraska
72. Georgia

Note that all of the bottom ten were flags of the seal-on-blue-field variety. (The Georgia flag at the time was the short-lived Denny's Place Mat flag, not the current flag.)

Papers all over the country reported on the survey, especially if their own state or provincial flag scored very high or very low. :D

Again, just because a flag placed low doesn't mean that the flag isn't meaningful to the people of the state it represents -- just that from a design standpoint, it is a less effective design.

As an aside, I've found it interesting to look at some GLO flags with these design guidelines in mind. Two things I note are that many GLO flags differ from most other flags because the symbolism displayed on them often is esoteric and that Greek Letters can functions as symbols as well as "writing/lettering" or the name of the GLO.

Can you tell I'm really interested in flags?

jon1856 03-25-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1623689)

Except that it wasn't used during the Civil War. The current Florida flag wasn't adopted until 1900. This is the flag Florida used during the Civil War:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-fl-61.gif

This is the flag Florida used after the Civil War until 1900:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-fl868.gif

Can you tell I'm really interested in flags?

LOL
Very good report.
Yes, Florida State flag is/was as you reported.
Units carried their own flags as well. Some of which looked very simular to current State flag.
End of my high-jack.:D

MysticCat 03-25-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1623713)
Units carried their own flags as well. Some of which looked very simular to current State flag.

You mean this one:
http://www.florida-scv.org/projects/...und/flag15.jpg
(You can see a catalog of Florida Confederate flags here; most seem to be based on the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, variations of which were used widely in Florida).

It is certainly true that the saltire (X-shaped cross) in the Florida flag is inspired mainly by the Battle Flag. It's also inspired by earlier Spanish ensigns.

[/my highjack as well :D]

BuckeyeTriDelta 03-25-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1623689)
There are plenty of burgees in the world, but no other that I know of as a national or state/provinicial/departmental flag.

That is what I meant.

WhiteDaisy128 03-25-2008 06:18 PM

I love the Rhode Island flag...I don't live there..but I love it. I'm a DG so I think the reason is obvious!

http://myrhodeislandgenealogy.com/images/ri_flag.jpg

Educatingblue 03-25-2008 06:23 PM

I am originally from SC and I absolutely love the state flag, but I live in NC now, so I thought I would post that one!!http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...1922/nc_fi.gif

DeltAlum 03-25-2008 09:25 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ado.svg/250px-
Here's The Colorado Flag.

Like a lot of the others shown in the thread, the artist version is fairly dull, but fllying against a blue sky, it's really quite pretty.

Thetagirl218 03-25-2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1623571)
True no oranges or Disney.
But one does have to wonder if Disney in one way or another is the reason that this is the only flag which was used during the War between the States that the NAACP has not yet protested.

There could be historical reasons, Tallahassee was the only Confederate capital to never be taken over by the Union.

Also no major battles were fought in Florida. And slavery was quite different Florida than in most of the South. Mostly due to the Spanish influence which heavily encourage manumission. But of course it was still slavery.

MysticCat 03-25-2008 11:14 PM

^^^^ Or, it could be that the statement is predicated on two inaccurate suppositions: that the current flag of Florida was used during the Civil War (it wasn't) or that the NAACP has protested all other current Southern state flags that were used during the Civil War (they haven't). ;)

Thetagirl218 03-25-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1624025)
^^^^ Or, it could be that the statement is predicated on two inaccurate suppositions: that the current flag of Florida was used during the Civil War (it wasn't) or that the NAACP has protested all other current Southern state flags that were used during the Civil War (they haven't). ;)

That could be it too! :rolleyes:

It just gave me a chance to rant off random Florida history knowledge I was forced to learn in college! :)

MysticCat 03-25-2008 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thetagirl218 (Post 1624027)
It just gave me a chance to rant off random Florida history knowledge I was forced to learn in college! :)

And you did good with that. See, it did come in handy one day. :D

jon1856 03-25-2008 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1624025)
^^^^ Or, it could be that the statement is predicated on two inaccurate suppositions: that the current flag of Florida was used during the Civil War (it wasn't) or that the NAACP has protested all other current Southern state flags that were used during the Civil War (they haven't). ;)

I posted that it was similar; which it is.
And I have seen ones (from The War of Northern Aggression) that are even closer.
I corrected my over statement.
And the NAACP has gone after the Stars and Bars. And their leverage is generally tourism.

jon1856 03-25-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1623737)
You mean this one:
http://www.florida-scv.org/projects/...und/flag15.jpg
(You can see a catalog of Florida Confederate flags here; most seem to be based on the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, variations of which were used widely in Florida).

It is certainly true that the saltire (X-shaped cross) in the Florida flag is inspired mainly by the Battle Flag. It's also inspired by earlier Spanish ensigns.

[/my highjack as well :D]

Is it really wrong of me to be getting interested in you???:o;)
Hope to see you on The Fields some day.

LoveMyKeyKKG 03-26-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scbelle (Post 1623564)
Based on what I learned in SC History (yes, I'm a good Sandlapper!), it is not really a moon, but a depiction of a symbol which Revolution fighters from the state wore on their hats under Colonel Moultrie, who designed the original state flag.

We are good Sandlappers, yes we're good Sandlappers, and we're mighty proud to saaaaay...that we live, yes we live in the very finest state of the Uuuuuuu S. A.! :D

CutiePie2000 03-26-2008 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128 (Post 1623815)
I love the Rhode Island flag...I don't live there..but I love it. I'm a DG so I think the reason is obvious!

http://myrhodeislandgenealogy.com/images/ri_flag.jpg

Oh, that flag is very DG-like!! :D


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