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DaemonSeid 03-07-2008 06:05 PM

2 more college murders?
 
The student body president at the University of North Carolina was killed by a shot from a handgun to her right temple, according to a police report released Friday.

Authorities also said that 22-year-old Eve Marie Carson's keys and wallet have not been found. Police don't have any suspects in her death, and still believe it was a random act of violence.

"We've been getting a number of leads that we're trying to follow up on," Police Chief Brian Curran said at a news conference Friday.

The initial police report offers the first details about how the senior from Athens, Ga., may have died. Her body was found lying in a city street before dawn Wednesday, shot several times. Her vehicle was found Thursday about a mile away.

When police began investigating, they believed her car was stolen, the report said. Police would not say Friday if they still believe that is the case, but said the killer had access to her car.

Carson was last seen alive at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday, when she stayed home to do schoolwork while her roommates went out, authorities said. But they aren't clear why she was out at 5 a.m., when a report of shots fired was called in to police.

Curran said there was no sign of a break-in at her home or any evidence she was having trouble in a relationship that might have led to a conflict.

"As far as I know, she wasn't having any problems with anybody," Curran said.

Curran said police had been in contact with authorities in Alabama investigating the killing of a female student at Auburn University, but added that the cases do not appear to be connected.

Carson was a prestigious Morehead-Cain scholar and a North Carolina Fellow, taking part in a four-year leadership development program for undergraduates. A premed student, she majored in political science and biology, taught science at a Chapel Hill elementary school, studied abroad in Cuba and spent summers volunteering in Ecuador, Egypt and Ghana as part of a school program.

University Chancellor James Moeser has said there is nothing to link Carson's slaying to anyone on campus, where the news of her death has led to a widespread outpouring of grief.

"It's just a huge blow. It's a blow against everything we assume about ourselves, about being a peaceful, safe place where kids come," Moeser said Friday. "She was a joyful person. She loved this place. She loved being here."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...i_n_90286.html

and in Auburn

Auburn Police are looking for the person who shot and killed a student, then set her car on fire.
Police were called to the scene of an injured female on North College Street just after 9:00 Tuesday night. When officers arrived, they found Lauren Burk. The 18-year-old freshman from Marietta, Georgia had been shot. Burk was transported to East Alabama Medical Center, where she later died.
Less than half an hour after police found Burk, someone reported seeing a car on fire in the parking lot of Hinton Field. Police say the 2001 Black Honda Civic is registered to Burk.

The case is under investigation by Auburn Police, the Department of Forensic Sciences, the Lee County Sheriff's Office, and the Lee County District Attorney's Office.
In a letter to students, the University is urging students to be careful both when on campus and out in the community.



http://www.wkrg.com/news/article/aub...urdered/11086/


is there an alarm going off somewhere???

Campuses aren't getting any safer !!!

Benzgirl 03-07-2008 06:58 PM

So sad. This is someone who had given so much of her life and it was taken away much too early. I read a comment on the UNC website that said, "I don't want Hillary to become President because I planned to see Eva as the first woman President"

I feel so badly for their families

NappyBison 03-07-2008 07:42 PM

I have heard that the two murders are connected. Apparently the female from Auburn and the female from UNC-Chapel Hill were both prominent figures in their respective student bodies and when they were young, they lived less than 5 miles apart from one another in Georgia.

IDK though, at any rate, this is an extremely upsetting situation and I'm keeping the families in my prayers.

Scandia 03-08-2008 08:37 AM

Oh my goodness. That is so scary. A shot to the temple must have been very close by. I can only imagine the horror and anguish she must have felt.

Hopefully they will catch the culprits soon.

And of course, my prayers and sympathies go to the families and friends of the victims.

texas*princess 03-08-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NappyBison (Post 1614500)
I have heard that the two murders are connected. Apparently the female from Auburn and the female from UNC-Chapel Hill were both prominent figures in their respective student bodies and when they were young, they lived less than 5 miles apart from one another in Georgia.

IDK though, at any rate, this is an extremely upsetting situation and I'm keeping the families in my prayers.

that's so sad that 2 women who had such bright futures are gone :(

SWTXBelle 03-08-2008 01:10 PM

I hope the two are related, if only because apparently they have a suspect.

NappyBison 03-08-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1614776)
I hope the two are related, if only because apparently they have a suspect.

I heard the same thing and I have to agree with you SWTX.

nikki1920 03-10-2008 12:25 PM

This is so sad to hear.

And I thought it was very classy of Dook to have a moment of silence before the game in honor of Eve.

skylark 03-10-2008 12:55 PM

I heard that Lauren Burke is a Delta Gamma. I checked a news search, and confirmed it (see the last paragraph of linked article).

My thoughts are with both of these girls' friends and families.

SthrnZeta 03-10-2008 01:49 PM

The two cases are not believed to be related, nor did they live that close to each other: Burk was from Marietta, GA (on the NW side of Atlanta) and Carson was from Athens, GA (about an hour east of Atlanta). Burk was indeed a member of Delta Gamma. They have arrested a suspect in Burk's murder, while they have surveillance footage of a man using Carson's ATM card but no arrests have been made. Please, let's not feed into rumors.

nikki1920 03-10-2008 02:23 PM

Right.

shinerbock 03-10-2008 03:41 PM

Unfortunately, the Phelps bunch (Westboro "Baptist Church") are protesting the funerals. I sincerely hate these people, and that is fairly rare, even for me.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1614440)
Campuses aren't getting any safer !!!


Campuses are only as safe as the police and law abiding citizens on and around that campus try to make it. There will always be students and nonstudents who want to victimize others.

But did these incidents occur on campus or around campus? Campuses are not immune to what's going on around it.

shinerbock 03-10-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1615726)
Campuses are only as safe as the police and law abiding citizens on and around that campus try to make it. There will always be students and nonstudents who want to victimize others.

But did these incidents occur on campus or around campus? Campuses are not immune to what's going on around it.

It sounds that both occurred off campus (about 5 miles from AU, a little less for UNC). I think much of the shock value, however, is that both of the immediate areas, Chapel Hill and Auburn, are to my knowledge, pretty safe places. I'm sure things get a little sketchier farther out, but even in Opelika I don't think most AU students have much fear.

Of course, both areas have some poorer, more rural surroundings, and although not especially violent to my knowledge, random violent crime does occasionally occur. unfortunately, these two seemingly random incidents occurred in succession, which certainly doesn't mend the already-present fears of many college students.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1615748)
It sounds that both occurred off campus (about 5 miles from AU, a little less for UNC). I think much of the shock value, however, is that both of the immediate areas, Chapel Hill and Auburn, are to my knowledge, pretty safe places. I'm sure things get a little sketchier farther out, but even in Opelika I don't think most AU students have much fear.

Of course, both areas have some poorer, more rural surroundings, and although not especially violent to my knowledge, random violent crime does occasionally occur. unfortunately, these two seemingly random incidents occurred in succession, which certainly doesn't mend the already-present fears of many college students.


True. Thanks.

MysticCat 03-10-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1615748)
It sounds that both occurred off campus (about 5 miles from AU, a little less for UNC).

In Chapel Hill, it's not quite as clear whether things happened on or off campus. The place where she lived is within 1/4 mile from campus, and her car was found less than a mile from campus. There is at least some indication that she had left her house to go to her on-campus office when she was abducted. I think it's safe to say things either happened on or close to campus.

shinerbock 03-10-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1615766)
In Chapel Hill, it's not quite as clear whether things happened on or off campus. The place where she lived is within 1/4 mile from campus, and her car was found less than a mile from campus. There is at least some indication that she had left her house to go to her on-campus office when she was abducted. I think it's safe to say things either happened on or close to campus.

My knowledge of UNC is limited to a couple of visits, so I'll certainly defer. I originally heard "half mile from campus," but I'm not sure if thats just where Eve was found or something else.

MysticCat 03-10-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1615768)
My knowledge of UNC is limited to a couple of visits, so I'll certainly defer. I originally heard "half mile from campus," but I'm not sure if thats just where Eve was found or something else.

A half-mile or so would be about right for where she was found (I mispoke in my earlier post when I mentioned where her car was found -- I meant to say where she was found and where the shots were heard.) Her house was only a few blocks from campus, and her car was found pretty much around the corner and down the street from her house.

srmom 03-10-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Unfortunately, the Phelps bunch (Westboro "Baptist Church") are protesting the funerals. I sincerely hate these people, and that is fairly rare, even for me.
What is this about? Who are these people and why are they protesting a funeral? How awful that must be for the family!!! I have heard of groups protesting funerals of military servicemen (which is disgusting) but what could they possibly be protesting about a young woman's tragic death?

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1615782)
What is this about? Who are these people and why are they protesting a funeral? How awful that must be for the family!!! I have heard of groups protesting funerals of military servicemen (which is disgusting) but what could they possibly be protesting about a young woman's tragic death?

They are a group of extremist wierdos!

I was going to post their sites but I'd rather not advertise for these idiots. Do a Google search and you'll see.

shinerbock 03-10-2008 04:56 PM

Their logic is that colleges are evil (which despite my feelings about academia, is stupid enough), that they promote homosexuality and godlessness and what not. Irony here is that Auburn is probably among the most conservative, evangelically-minded public schools in the country, but it just shows how far off the reservation these folks are.

They also refer to Burk as a "Christ-rejecting Jew," (she's half Jewish). They're truly despicable people, and the fact that they're alive is a testament to the patience and forgiving nature of the thousands of people they've sought to harm.

srmom 03-10-2008 04:58 PM

I just did the google search and they are a bunch of disgusting sick people! How they can call themselves Christian is beyond me.

But, what could they be protesting about at this funeral?

I tell you, if I ever saw that bunch at a funeral I was at, they might just be digging their own graves. That makes me so upset. Having lost a loved one suddenly and shockingly, my heart absolutely breaks for those parents, the pain is so intense and searing. The funeral is one chance to hear calming words and a place to try to find some peace. For those cretons to disrupt that is just sinful.

I don't say this much - but those people are going to hell.

srmom 03-10-2008 05:00 PM

shinerbock, we cross posted, but you are right that
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the fact that they're alive is a testament to the patience and forgiving nature of the thousands of people they've sought to harm.
I just don't think I could be that forgiving. And, I hate to say that about myself.

DSTCHAOS 03-10-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1615801)
shinerbock, we cross posted, but you are right that

I just don't think I could be that forgiving. And, I hate to say that about myself.

You would probably fuss and want to fight but would be wise enough to let these morons suffer their own fate.

dukedg 03-10-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1615748)
It sounds that both occurred off campus (about 5 miles from AU, a little less for UNC). I think much of the shock value, however, is that both of the immediate areas, Chapel Hill and Auburn, are to my knowledge, pretty safe places. I'm sure things get a little sketchier farther out, but even in Opelika I don't think most AU students have much fear.

Of course, both areas have some poorer, more rural surroundings, and although not especially violent to my knowledge, random violent crime does occasionally occur. unfortunately, these two seemingly random incidents occurred in succession, which certainly doesn't mend the already-present fears of many college students.

Durham is not the safest place and is only 15 minutes or so from Chapel Hill, but Chapel Hill itself always seemed very safe to me while I was at Duke.

NappyBison 03-10-2008 10:05 PM

IA dukeg, I have family in Durham and it has gotten a little crazy at times. They did find the young man who murdered Courtney Lockhart. He used her ATM card somewhere.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4412694

They also have a suspect in the Carson's murder, his picture has been everywhere but they have yet to capture him.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/03/08/...ed-eve-carson/

shinerbock 03-11-2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NappyBison (Post 1616041)
IA dukeg, I have family in Durham and it has gotten a little crazy at times. They did find the young man who murdered Courtney Lockhart. He used her ATM card somewhere.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4412694

They also have a suspect in the Carson's murder, his picture has been everywhere but they have yet to capture him.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/03/08/...ed-eve-carson/

Courtney Lockhart is the person believed to be responsible for the murder of Lauren Burk. Pretty obvious that's what you were saying, I just wanted to clarify for others.

nittanyalum 03-13-2008 11:08 AM

Eve Carson murder suspects arrested
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/13/...ef=mpstoryview

scbelle 03-13-2008 12:56 PM

One of them has ties to another student murder at Duke?!? That's awful. :(:mad:

NappyBison 03-13-2008 06:56 PM

I'm not sure, but I was also hearing rumors about Eve Carson's murder being part of a gang initiation. But don't quote me on that one....I still need to read up on that and what not.


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