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4-Being the center of attention at the mixer to the point that sisters get completely ignored.

5 - Blowing off pledge meetings.

Touching the TV remote. Ever.

7. Disrespecting women. I'll see to it that your ass is balled if I ever witness this.

8. Whining about how you really wanted XYZ, and this group is beneath you.

9. Not answering your phone.
10. Talking back to actives
11. Trying to be funny. You're a pledge, not a comedian.

you might want to rephrase that.

12. Doing the bare minimum that you have to do, and complaining about it.

13. Answering your cell phone during chapter meeting. Loudly. And then walking out of the chapter room, as you continue your LOUD conversation, to take the call.

yep, true story. sigh.

Pledges usually aren't allowed at chapter in fraternities, thats when we ball them!

Arguing with a brother over anything... pledges are wrong and brothers are right.
Complaining, everyone else has been there before.
Wearing jean shorts, unless you do it while courting as a joke. :D
Being late
Not showing up to mandatory stuff
NOT ANSWERING YOUR PHONE WHEN A BROTHER CALLS
Not wearing your pledge pin
Not being sharp on sharp days
Putting down other GLOs, unless its really funny

Most of the real ones have been already said...

along those lines the one that always bothers me is...

when you're alllowed to drink, don't leave all your shit in the brothers room while he's gone, I mean it's fairly fucking obvious but pledges don't understand how much shit goes down in chapter when this happens

Giving signs that you might be a risk management "issue" at sometime in the future. Or the present, for that matter, although that goes without saying.

It's ok to go a little crazy, but what you do comes back to the fraternity, and your stupid decisions can become the fraternity's problems... given the choice between having one more pledge, and not dealing with the shitstorm that can follow an "incident", guess which one they'll choose.

Make the same mistake twice, especially if it's a big one (RM issue, being late, etc).

doing the bare minimum and never socializing with your fellow chapter members (What is the point of joining if not to make new friends?)

or doing too much socializing to the point you neglect your classes

everything in moderation.

Leaving bottles and trash around the room, when I'm gone.

It's something they don't think about when they're drunk and usually I'm too drunk to yell at them (meaningfully) when it happens, but when it comes to vote on pledges, it definitely gets repeated.

Banging an active's girlfriend. Seen it happen (no, not the actual event)- and he was gone at the next meeting.

SEC, this is biggest pledge mistakes at ANY institution. This would not be a mistake at every institution, although I know you think it is a mistake for political and fashionable reasons.
I really would like to know what was going through the pledge's mind when he decided to do this. "Oh yeah he's my brother, he won't care if I bang his girlfriend." Ok, they were probably drunk, but still. Idiot.

Maybe the active's girlfriend shouldn't be a classless whore.

Either way, get rid of them both!

I agree- but that was not for the fraternity to deal with. This is what sorority Standards Boards are for...

Definitely.

I aparently told my House's Lt. Master we weren't a real fraternity at the pre-orientation I went to (he was my counselor). I have no recollection of that (I probably meant it in jest?).

It didn't keep me out, obviously, but the Master and Lieutenant still hold it against me.

Saying NO to a brother at an event

even worse Saying no to an Alumni on Alumni night

Being spotted at the bar during pledging

Hanging up on a brother

Being spotted at sorority houses or another fraternities house at parties while pledging


first 4 happened to us TKE the last one happened to another fraternity (we'll call them EBX) their pledges came to our party some one called them in and EBX actives came in full force to show them that this was a bad idea lmao

Of-age pledges can't go to the bar? Sorry, that's hazing.

What is wrong with that?

I don't know about other campuses, but we don't pledge guys who are of-age... that would make them Juniors.

Not necessarily. A guy might begin college a year or two late as a Freshman. I know we have a guy on this board that is around 30 and an active member.

That's sad.

EW is correct in that chapters that pledge "traditional students" are unlikely to have a pledge that is 21.

I disagree. My boyfriend's little is 25 and was just elected the new Consul for the coming year. He wasn't able to go to college until later than most, but he brings a lot of experience and insight with his age and unique perspective.

EW: What about someone who had served in the military and didn't start college until later because he was on active duty? Would that be different for you?

Why would he serve before going to college? Probably because he is poor. That's not top tier.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not necessarily, thats a very harsh *stereotype*. While I'll agree it is generally true, it does not always apply. There are a lot of legislators that have served in the military, I'd say they aren't at the bottom of the totem pole now are they?

And wouldn't everyone over 18 be of age to gain entrance to a bar? I've only seen once case of some one younger than that pledging.

I know of one too, not on this board. At some third tier college somewhere in Arkansas.

However, traditional chapters generally pledge guys in their freshman year when they're 18. Not sophomore or junior or whatever.

In case you were unsure, that's not what *I* think, but what someone from a "fratty traditional Southern top tier" chapter who likes to constantly remind everyone on GC of that might say.

What's wrong with going to parties while pledging? I thought the point of joining a fraternity was to be social and meet more people?

If only there were establishments in college towns that would tacitly accept obviously fake ID's... we might even call them "freshman bars". Oh well, I guess they'll just have to wait until they're 21 to go out in Athens/Tuscaloosa/Oxford/Statesboro, just like everyone else.

In some states, you have to be 21 to even get into a bar (even if you're not drinking) unless it's a TGIFriday's type of place, and even those often have rules about people who are underage (i.e. cannot be in certain areas at certain times).

There are very few places I have been that you have to be 21 to enter a bar. Certainly never been to a club you have had to be 21 to into. And very few that actually care if youre a minor walking around with alcohol as long as you didnt walk to the bar and buy it yourself.