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rav3n 02-12-2008 03:14 PM

How do i start my own Fraternity. Please HELP
 
I was wondering how i start my own fraternity. I have about 24 guys that want me to start one. How do you choose a greek name? what do the chapters means? im a rookie. What are Colonies? Had to i set up the Admin and Rules. What do i need to know... if i wanted to make this happen.

33girl 02-12-2008 03:34 PM

Click on the threads below. They will give you a start.

rav3n 02-12-2008 03:57 PM

that really didnt help... can anyone answer my questions?

knight_shadow 02-12-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599142)
that really didnt help... can anyone answer my questions?

You were referred to those pages because this topic has been discussed before.

Try using the search function. Or actually reading the pages that you were directed to.

SthrnZeta 02-12-2008 04:09 PM

Scroll down to the bottom of the screen and there are related threads to this very topic. Click on any of those links and read what other discussions have taken place. If you still have additional questions after reading them, then feel free to ask.

Unregistered- 02-12-2008 04:20 PM

Come on, guys. He wants to be SPOON FED this information!

To the OP, if searching Greekchat for similar topics is too much work for you to do, I highly doubt that you'll be able to handle all the effort necessary to start your own fraternity.

LaneSig 02-12-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599109)
I was wondering how i start my own fraternity. I have about 24 guys that want me to start one. How do you choose a greek name? what do the chapters means? im a rookie. What are Colonies? Had to i set up the Admin and Rules. What do i need to know... if i wanted to make this happen.

Okay - in all seriousness:

1- Are you on a campus that has fraternities?

2- If the answer to #1 is yes: Are you wanting to colonize an existing fraternity or begin a whole-brand-new-never-been-one-in-existance fraternity? If the answer to the last section is yes, then why?

3- If the answer to #1 is no: Are fraternities allowed on your campus and have you checked with the administration?

Yes, we have had threads about this, but give us more information. I don't walk into my boss's office and say "Gee, I want to start a club." I walk in and say, "I would like to start a club. Here's the reasons why I feel it should exist, why it hasn't existed before, etc."

rav3n 02-12-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1599158)
Come on, guys. He wants to be SPOON FED this information!

To the OP, if searching Greekchat for similar topics is too much work for you to do, I highly doubt that you'll be able to handle all the effort necessary to start your own fraternity.

are you always a jerk or did it just happen!

knight_shadow 02-12-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599176)
are you always a jerk or did it just happen!

Is that a question?

Now we'll be falling over ourselves to help you. :rolleyes:

rav3n 02-12-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1599160)
Okay - in all seriousness:

1- Are you on a campus that has fraternities?

No

2- If the answer to #1 is yes: Are you wanting to colonize an existing fraternity or begin a whole-brand-new-never-been-one-in-existance fraternity? If the answer to the last section is yes, then why?

begin a whole-brand-new-never-been-one-in-existance fraternity,

the reason is we all are together anyway...every weekend. we all have events we do and set up and all want to make a difference and bring in new guys that want good friends and people they will always be good friends with their whole life. Make awesome memories and do something that everyone said couldnt be DONE.

3- If the answer to #1 is no: Are fraternities allowed on your campus and have you checked with the administration?

There again No... one to talk to.

Yes, we have had threads about this, but give us more information. I don't walk into my boss's office and say "Gee, I want to start a club." I walk in and say, "I would like to start a club. Here's the reasons why I feel it should exist, why it hasn't existed before, etc."

We are a band of brothers... we do everything together... we have been told me others that moved off that we could never have anything like that here... or could never be anything or have anything worth anything.. never remember for anything great... just want to make something to past down to others... create a reason to keep hope and teach leadership and what it is to be a man... The same reasons anyone wants to be something MORE......

rav3n 02-12-2008 04:54 PM

Well Knight Shadow the only one that has tried to help me is Lanesig

knight_shadow 02-12-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599183)
We are a band of brothers... we do everything together... we have been told me others that moved off that we could never have anything like that here... or could never be anything or have anything worth anything.. never remember for anything great... just want to make something to past down to others... create a reason to keep hope and teach leadership and what it is to be a man... The same reasons anyone wants to be something MORE......

That made my brain hurt :(


If your campus doesn't allow fraternities, you need to talk to your administration to find out why or if they're open to the possibility.

And hopefully, your purpose is more than "hanging out." If that's all your guys are about, you can make a social club or something. Everything doesn't HAVE to be a fraternity.

knight_shadow 02-12-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599187)
Well Knight Shadow the only one that has tried to help me is Lanesig

I guess we're reading two different threads then:

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1599121)
Click on the threads below. They will give you a start.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 1599152)
Scroll down to the bottom of the screen and there are related threads to this very topic. Click on any of those links and read what other discussions have taken place. If you still have additional questions after reading them, then feel free to ask.

And like OTW said, if it's too much work for you to search the forum, you're in for a rude awakening if you end up creating this organization.

rav3n 02-12-2008 04:59 PM

finally thanks.... our group started with guys they dont have role models or fathers or whatever.... we have to give back to the community, there is alot of stuff we would love to do... and no just not hanging out. but we do.. do a lot of that too.

knight_shadow 02-12-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599192)
finally thanks.... our group started with guys they dont have role models or fathers or whatever.... we have to give back to the community, there is alot of stuff we would love to do... and no just not hanging out. but we do.. do a lot of that too.

Finally, we're getting somewhere.

What other things would you bring to the community? What kind of activities would you participate in?

You may think we're picking you apart, but these are questions you'll be asked by administration and potential members.

Senusret I 02-12-2008 05:02 PM

Watch a movie called The Warriors. There is a scene with a group called the Orphans. They sound like the kind of fellows you'd like to affiliate with.

Unregistered- 02-12-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1599194)
Watch a movie called The Warriors. There is a scene with a group called the Orphans. They sound like the kind of fellows you'd like to affiliate with.

Dunno man, sounds like he needs Lord of the Flies.

MysticCat 02-12-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599187)
Well Knight Shadow the only one that has tried to help me is Lanesig

No, quite a few people tried to help you by pointing out that this question has been asked many times and that your time might be better spent reading some of those threads and then asking whatever questions you may still have.

But just to humor you --

There is no rule on how to pick a name. Most fraternities and sororities use Greek-letter names -- the Greek letters stand for a name, motto, or set of virtues/principles that is also usually, but not always, in Greek. But there's no rule about it.

Chapters don't "mean" anything. They are the local (as in specific to a campus or community) groups of national or international fraternities.

Colonies are new groups of inter/national fraternities hoping to become chapters.

Administration and rules are up to you.

And, all bold is not easy to read.

Tom Earp 02-12-2008 05:29 PM

Amazing, this is some of the typocaly posts? Sad.:rolleyes:

Senusret I 02-12-2008 05:32 PM

Nearly "rhymes with isosceles" is how I read it.

KSUViolet06 02-12-2008 08:08 PM

This thread has some helpful info:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...tart+a+setting

PhiGam 02-13-2008 03:16 AM

You are all ridiculous, KSU violet was the only person who tried to help.

knight_shadow 02-13-2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1599624)
You are all ridiculous, KSU violet was the only person who tried to help.

You obviously didn't read the thread, then.

And your comment wasn't helpful either :rolleyes:

rav3n 02-13-2008 08:18 AM

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While that may be true, it could be that the OP wants to learn more about Greek life, so let's answer his questions.

Teamcrunk-- get together a group of people interested in starting a co-ed social organization. As a group, come up with the following:
  • A mission statement: why do you exist and why should people want to join? Hint: this purpose should be something you would be proud to tell your parents about.
  • Pick a name, colors and symbols: what is your brand? come up with a tag line, something that will have some longevity and something your mother would be proud to repeat.
  • How do people join?
  • What does the organization do? Develop a schedule of activities that range from social to service to academic, as well as regular business meetings
  • How much will it cost to develop and put on these activities? Plan for dues and how many members it will take to pull off these activities without each member breaking the bank.
  • Are there phases of membership or an initiation? Develop plans to educate new members and create a new member manual with all of the things a member of your organization should know.
  • If you plan to create a special ceremony to initiate your members, do so. This can mirror some of the induction ceremonies you may have participated in while in high school-- a pledge to be loyal to ideals of the organization, respectful of its members, and an official pinning or receipt of a token that symbolizes the organization.
Hope this helps! Starting any new organization, whether or not it has Greek letters, is a lot of work. It can be very challenging to get others to participate, to pay dues or to follow through on doing the things they promise to do. You may want to see if perhaps your university already has other organizations that are more established -- it may be easier to join an existing activity and immediately enjoy the benefits.

As a co-ed organization, if your membership practices are not exclusive; that is, if anyone at the university may join, you may be eligible to receive student government funding.

Good luck!
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HE is right! there are only a hand full actually helping me...telling me read threads that dont answer my questions is useless.... waste of time... i finally found somone that is really helpful i dont understand why it was soooo hard to just answer my questions if you knew the answers.

rav3n 02-13-2008 08:25 AM

instead of mocking me and telling me to watch movies that are 20 years old... " so if i watch Old school i know what its like to be in a fraternity i dont think sooooo" thats bad advise. thank you for the people that actually tried!!!! and helped

Senusret I 02-13-2008 09:36 AM

I'm sorry, are we contractually obligated to help you? NO.

Go read a book, Orphan.

MTSUGURL 02-13-2008 11:35 AM

In all seriousness, with no snippiness (well, maybe a little,) have you used the search button? Many, many people before you have tried to reinvent the wheel and they've all started new threads. While each group may be a bit unique, the advice and information is not. All the information in the world is not going to help unless you talk to the administration. You said there's no one to talk to - what does that mean? Do you not have an administration? Do you go to a public university or a private one?
Think of this sight as a self-serve ice cream machine. You can stand there in front of the machine all day and ask it to give you ice cream, or you can push the little lever. (Information = ice cream. Search function: = little lever.)

MysticCat 02-13-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rav3n (Post 1599658)
HE is right! there are only a hand full actually helping me...telling me read threads that dont answer my questions is useless.... waste of time... i finally found somone that is really helpful i dont understand why it was soooo hard to just answer my questions if you knew the answers.

Have you read the other threads, or are you just assuming that they don't answer your questions?

The reality is there is no one answer to your question. There's not a recipe for starting a fraternity; there's no one way to do it. The information that adpiucf gave you is certainly useful, but the reality is that a good number of existing (and thriving) fraternities did not follow the advice she set out. What works one place and with one group of people will fail miserably somewhere else or with a different group of people.

The best way for you to figure out what will work for you is learn how other organizations, especially those similar to what you want to start, began. Learn from their successes, learn from their mistakes and use your own intelligence and imagination to apply what you've learned to your specific situation on your campus. That's why the best advice you've been getting is to read the existing threads on the subject. I'm sorry that you see it as people blowing you off.

rav3n 02-13-2008 02:52 PM

that was the most intelligent thing i have heard thus far. thank you. I have enough information for my purpose....

SthrnZeta 02-13-2008 03:30 PM

Mystic, you said what we all already said, just in a more eloquent way. rav3n, if you read what we said as being mean, then you got a little more growing up to do before you organize a brotherhood of men. I guess you just didn't understand that people that have been on this forum for a long time have discussed this topic to death, so much so, that there are several threads that exist now that they were directing you to read, rather than start up a whole new one. And I felt my first post was not only easy to understand, but not in the least bit snarky - matter of fact at worst.

RU OX Alum 02-14-2008 02:53 PM

My advise to you would be to tell your dean of students or whatever what you're doing, and find out if they are supportive. Whether they are supportive or not will only affect whether you are "on-campus" or "underground"

I would form your own group with own name and ritual. You might want to keep membership a secret for a while if your campus is anti-greek but rememember, the only type of college/university that can say "no" to any sort of greek life at all is a private one that receives no federal money at all. IF they do, then you have freedom of association. Even if you're "underground" people will probably know about you and want to join. After a semester or so my advise would be to affilate as an interest group/colony with an inter/national fraternity that is sympathetic to your cause.

Good luck.

To everyone else: telling someone to do a search or that this has been discussed before does not count as helping the new person.

Senusret I 02-14-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1600750)

To everyone else: telling someone to do a search or that this has been discussed before does not count as helping the new person.

Says you.

knight_shadow 02-14-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1600750)
To everyone else: telling someone to do a search or that this has been discussed before does not count as helping the new person.

I would agree if the previous threads had no information in them. Those threads have plenty of useful information in them, had the OP chosen to read them. Why should we have to spoon feed him information that is already readily available? What kind of message does that send? "Don't do anything for yourself -- ask everyone around you to do things for you, and your organization will prosper."

I think not.


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