Ike Turner dead at 76
 

Not as painful as Rick James' passing but still...

http://music.msn.com/news/article.as...88220&GT1=7702

I forgot he was alive:o. Oh well, RIP.

wife beater

I was actually a little hurt by this. rest in peace.

Me too. :(

The man had huge talent.

I didn't know he was that old.

R.I.P.

It takes a lot of talent to hit a woman.

Wow, I hope you guys never commit any wrong doing...

GTFO!

Right.

It's not like he stole a few things here and there. It's not like he bad-mouthed people. HE BEAT A WOMAN. I'm sure if this was someone else, there'd be a different kind of response in here.

Someone else like who?

it's a shame people won't let someone overcome his past.

R.I.P.

Interesting. He has allegedly spent decades trying to live those allegations down.

He has now passed away at the age of 76. He was a talented man who launched the career of Tina Turner, as well as helped the careers of others. Rest in peace, again.

Ike was a terrible human being who just happened to be a music talent. Before he married Tina, he had already been married and had children. Once he started to use drugs, he beat Tina savagly.

He openly cheated with other women: had a baby with one Ikette, who he later married, then married another Ikette.

He was in jail 11 times, mainly for drug-related incidents and was unable to attend the induction ceremonies for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Why? Because he was in jail.

I happen to have a few issues with people like this. Had he not had money from entertainment, I'm sure all of his wives and offspring would have been living in shelters.

If you think he is God, well I hate to see how you treat your women.

And who the fuck said he was God?

Then stay out of his R.I.P thread and work on making sure you're absolutely perfect by the time your obituary comes around.

Right. I don't think any Ike Turner reports presented him as a great philanthropist entertainer with no criminal and abusive history. Acknowledgement accomplished, moving on.

There are unfamous women and men with abusive and troubled pasts who are allowed to somehow redeem themselves everyday.

There are lots of "terrible human beings" out there who have made contributions to their respective fields. James Watson is one. Ike Turner happens to be another one.

Seriously, I don't think anyone is overlooking his abusive past...especially considering it's usually in the first paragraph of most of the obits I've read of him since yesterday.

I won't say that I'm perfect, but my Obit will contain line regarding my fundraising efforts for the Victims of Domestic Violence.

As would a lot of obits.

But is there anything you've done that would overshadow your fundraising efforts? That would depend on who your earthly, self-appointed, judgers are.

Can't think of any, unless you count my old speeding tickets.

Actually, I do hope he rests in peace. He can't harm any more women where he is going.

:rolleyes:

Stop, just stop. You obviously aren't a mortal since you are so perfect. I'm so glad there is no one on the planet that can say anything negative about you.

Right! I'm not a fan of innuendo.

As others have said, as a musician Ike very talented and made great contributions...as a human being, I hope that he has made his peace with himself and God and rests in peace.

Makes me wonder if anyone had anything BAD to say about Mother Theresa or the Pope when they died...


All of us are born into sin...and none of us will ever be perfect...deal with it.

trying to think...how does that saying go....?

He who is without sin.........uuuuuuhhhhh........

You're correct, none of us are perfect but Ike Turner was a terrible person. Theres a difference between having a few problems and brutally beating your wife, cheating on her openly, and going to jail twice a year. If I ever become as terrible of a person as Ike then I pray that people will say bad things about me when I pass. Then again, I have a sense of accountability.

PhiGam i like where your head is. Ike Turner was not a good person and neither is Bobby Brown or any other wife beater. But then again I'm sure the hippie, left-wing people that seem to infest this forum will have some sort of excuse for the reason why Bobby beat Whitney when he dies. Some people can take accountability for their actions but it takes someone with character to do that.

What is WITH you two??

The logic of hippie, left-wingers justifying abuse doesn't add up with what "hippie and left-wing" entail.

But I guess being a southernfrat means you wouldn't know about class and gender power and prestige and what happens when it is misused by people like the right-wing conservatives.

See why labels are so categorically presumptuous and dumb?

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Ike Turner wasn't a good person as it relates to the things that he's reported to have done. That's all I know about him personally. Professionally, I see his works and say R.I.P to a creative person. Just that simple. I'll try not to stalk his grave site or adopt an alternate personality named "Ike" so I can live my life and record an album.

Ray Charles


James Brown


Rick James


Kurt Cobain


Elvis presley



all talented musicians and all had some shady doings in thier lifetime....

I'm pretty sure Kurt Cobain never hit a woman, doubtful about elvis.

Bing Crosby did though, you could have used him.

good point...forgot all about good ol' Bing....

I'm not going to say that the people who are criticizing others for saying bad things about Ike are necessarily left wing hippies. I just personally think that the world is a better place without Ike Turner, he was a burden on society.

Doing drugs doesn't really mean anything to me, for the most part you're hurting yourself there. Not to mention that those guys have already passed, how exactly does that fit into this thread?
They do all have one thing in common with each other but not Ike Turner: They were talented. Rick James is the least talented guy on that list but he still was a lot more gifted than Ike.

Well your post adds to the subjective nature of this entire thread discussion. But since we're still typing: :D

I don't consider drug abusers to only be victimizing themselves. An illustration of who drug abusers hurt can be seen in shows such as "Intervention."

I consider Rick James to have been more talented than Elvis Presley's thieving ass. Young Elvis was okay but still one of the artists back then who got credit when it wasn't due. But James and Presley were both junkies (perhaps among other things).

And I consider Ike Turner to have been extremely talented during his prime. The story of Ike and Tina wasn't one of a completely talentless man looking for a meal ticket but rather a talent scout, producer, and song writer who found someone to be the lead. http://www.history-of-rock.com/ike_and_tina_turner.htm

Now...I've successfully turned into an Ike fanatic for the purpose of this thread. And it sucks a little.

You've begun twisting the facts to win an argument, an argument that doesn't need to exist. It seems as though you are disagreeing with me just for the sake of disagreeing.
Also, the talent thing is obviously a matter of opinion.

That is pure comedy, coming from you.

You are obviously young and still in school. Ike Turner pre-dates you. Just because the movie came out in your lifetime doesn't mean you know his life story nor can you judge his talent or impact in the time in which he first made his mark.

Here's the headline and opening paragraph from Newsweek's article on his passing:
Quotes from a BBC article, read the whole thing here:
You can even find articles with praise for his talent that ran in The Washington Times and Fox News, which I'm guessing are right up your alley...

:confused:

This isn't an "argument." This is (now) a light hearted discussion in a R.I.P thread. Most of the posts in this thread aren't about R.I.P and don't belong here, including yours. And I don't know what facts there are to twist but I do always think it's dumb when someone enters into a discussion and then accuses responders of disagreeing with them just for the helluvit. Is that what you were doing in your initial post?

DUH. ;)

PhiGam.. you are missing the whole whole point of the names I listed....and duh...those guys already passed?


...nooooo kidding...maybe that's how it fits into this thread...


Altho most of Ike's wrongdoing haunted him while he was alive, most of the names I listed had some of the same issues....altho they were talented, they still had demons that OVERSHADOWED thier talent? maybe that's how it fits into this thread perhaps??


And perhaps measuring talents was not a point of the names I listed because it's all subjective and not really the point at all.