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SthrnZeta 12-11-2007 09:54 AM

Percentage of Students in Sororities
 
U.S. News list:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...orit_brief.php

AlphaFrog 12-11-2007 10:04 AM

Clearwater 100%???? How does that work? Is the whole school considered a sorority? Surely there is one or two holdouts that either don't want to be in a sorority or just plain don't fit in.:confused::confused:

SthrnZeta 12-11-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1561294)
Clearwater 100%???? How does that work? Is the whole school considered a sorority? Surely there is one or two holdouts that either don't want to be in a sorority or just plain don't fit in.:confused::confused:

Yeah, I saw that too and wondered if we had anyone on GC from that college - that figure can't be right...

ForeverRoses 12-11-2007 10:39 AM

As I understand it, the "greek life" at CCC is not like greek life at other schools. The school actually created twelve organizations and calls them "The Greeks". So if anything, they would be like locals, but with much more school oversight. http://www.clearwater.edu/studentlife/sociallife.asp

AlphaFrog 12-11-2007 10:44 AM

They sound like they're more like Ivy League Eating Clubs than sororities.

ForeverRoses 12-11-2007 10:46 AM

you're right, they do. With 100% participation, they must guarantee membership to one of the groups, but with some selection ability between the group and the person.

SthrnZeta 12-11-2007 10:59 AM

AF, that was my thought too.

Benzgirl 12-11-2007 11:07 AM

From what I was able to read, joining a Greek Organization is required unless you are an "older student". This is defined as a student who is married or over 21 years old.

NutBrnHair 12-11-2007 12:43 PM

GO BEARS
 
My alma mater is 26%, I guess that's pretty good!

Very interesting list -- thanks for posting it, SthrnZeta.

LaneSig 12-11-2007 01:27 PM

Several of the schools, Faulkner University, Oklahoma Christian University, Harding University, and Ohio Valley University, are all schools associated and supported by churches of Christ. These schools have "Greek Life" that are all locals and are referred to as 'social clubs'. They are fairly popular for all students to join. They vary in how they are governed. The 4 that I mentioned all conduct recruitment much like the Panhellenics.

Also, they have to abide by the rules of the campus. No drinking, no dancing, male students are only allowed in the common lobby area of the female dorms, female students are forbidden to enter the male dorms, and there is a curfew. All reasons why I chose to go to a public school. A friend and myself were the only 2 at my church who went to public colleges. The rest, about 15-20 while I was there, went to the church related schools.

AlphaFrog 12-11-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1561413)
Also, they have to abide by the rules of the campus. No drinking, no dancing, male students are only allowed in the common lobby area of the female dorms, female students are forbidden to enter the male dorms, and there is a curfew.

So archaic.

LaneSig 12-11-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1561417)
So archaic.

I know that in the 80's, women students still had to wear dresses or skirts to class. They could only wear pants if the temperature was freezing or below (and it had to be pants or slacks, no jeans). They could only wear shorts if they were going to gym class, and they had to wear a rain coat over them.

I'm not sure when those rules changed.

PeppyGPhiB 12-11-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1561413)
Several of the schools, Faulkner University, Oklahoma Christian University, Harding University, and Ohio Valley University, are all schools associated and supported by churches of Christ. These schools have "Greek Life" that are all locals and are referred to as 'social clubs'. They are fairly popular for all students to join. They vary in how they are governed. The 4 that I mentioned all conduct recruitment much like the Panhellenics.

Also, they have to abide by the rules of the campus. No drinking, no dancing, male students are only allowed in the common lobby area of the female dorms, female students are forbidden to enter the male dorms, and there is a curfew. All reasons why I chose to go to a public school. A friend and myself were the only 2 at my church who went to public colleges. The rest, about 15-20 while I was there, went to the church related schools.

I just wanted to point out that not all religiously-affiliated schools are like this. Pepperdine, where I went, is also a Church of Christ school, and it's not at all like what you listed here. But I also realize that Pepperdine is known as the "liberal" CoC school and many of its students practice a completely different or no religion. There is no drinking on campus, but that's pretty much it. It also has a very active NATIONAL greek system with 7 NPCs, 5 NIC/IFC and no locals.

SthrnZeta 12-11-2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1561428)
I know that in the 80's, women students still had to wear dresses or skirts to class. They could only wear pants if the temperature was freezing or below (and it had to be pants or slacks, no jeans). They could only wear shorts if they were going to gym class, and they had to wear a rain coat over them.

I'm not sure when those rules changed.

Sounds like Bob Jones in Greenville...

LucyKKG 12-11-2007 04:51 PM

Ha, I wonder where my school fits on there. Probably like...2% if you include locals. Actually, I bet the school doesn't even KNOW what percentage it is!

LucyKKG 12-11-2007 04:54 PM

OH! I was wrong! I looked it up, and USNews.com says it's 1%!

skylark 12-11-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyKKG (Post 1561535)
Ha, I wonder where my school fits on there. Probably like...2% if you include locals. Actually, I bet the school doesn't even KNOW what percentage it is!

(never mind)

SthrnZeta 12-11-2007 05:02 PM

George Mason: 5% in Fraternities, 5% in sororities, 23% live on campus. Sounds about right...

1908Revelations 12-11-2007 05:19 PM

I was hoping my school was on there too.

nittanyalum 12-11-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1561555)
I was hoping my school was on there too.

Just type the name of your school in the "EZ Finder" box on the right side of the page to get its stats and profile...

KSUViolet06 12-11-2007 08:24 PM

I'd like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable about locations of colleges, but I HAVE NEVER even HEARD of those top 2 schools.

KSU stats are about right. They have 1% of women in sororities. There are probably 300ish women in all 6 NPC, the 3 NPHCs and 1 local combined. This is out of approx. 28,000.

joliebelle 12-11-2007 08:26 PM

the stats for JU seem to be correct, 20% in fraternities and 15% in sororities
not bad for a school with less than 3000 enrolled, but it could be better.

icicle22 12-12-2007 01:23 PM

I wouldn't trust the stats, since roughly 90% of all statistics are made up anyhow.

AlphaFrog 12-12-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by icicle22 (Post 1562103)
I wouldn't trust the stats, since roughly 90% of all statistics are made up anyhow.

I heard it was 83%.;)

icicle22 12-12-2007 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1562104)
I heard it was 83%.;)

Thanks.:) I wasn't sure, so I put 90%.

Benzgirl 12-12-2007 01:51 PM

Just for the sake of more statistics, lets take the numbers from the largest school in the US...

At the start of Fall Quarter, 2007, Ohio State had 2133 members in the Greek System with 52,568 undergradute, grad and professional students on the Columbus campus. Undergraduate totals at Columbus are 39,209.

4% of the total student body and 5.4% of all undergraduates are Greek.

LucyKKG 12-12-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by icicle22 (Post 1562105)
Thanks.:) I wasn't sure, so I put 90%.

Hahah YES! My dad says that thing about making up statistics all the time! I'm totally starting to say his corny jokes though. Oh man!

kathykd2005 12-12-2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1561309)
They sound like they're more like Ivy League Eating Clubs than sororities.

*Cringes* at the mention of eating houses. :eek:

ForeverRoses 12-13-2007 09:38 AM

Some of the info on that list is a little incorrect. When I looked up information for Ohio University, it lists it's setting as urban. Um, it's in the middle of Appalachia in a small town (the university doubles the size of the town when school is in session) 75 miles from the nearest real mall/airport/bus terminal. I don't consider that urban!

So if they can mess up on that, what else is incorrect?

DSTRen13 12-13-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1561417)
So archaic.

It's their religion. They like archaic, and think you're going to hell. :rolleyes:

/hijack

AlphaFrog 12-13-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1562603)
They like archaic, and think you're going to hell.

Well, then, save me a spot next to the cool kid's lava pit, I'll see you there.:p:D

KSUViolet06 12-13-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1562603)
It's their religion. They like archaic, and think you're going to hell. :rolleyes:


/hijack

I always find it so ironic that these so-called Christian schools have such rules. Theologically, what they're doing is telling kids that "Salvation comes from works (i.e. what you do, and not what you believe)." That is against everything I've EVER been taught. They're totally putting words in God's mouth, so to speak, and it makes me mad.

Pope 12-13-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1562615)
I always find it so ironic that these so-called Christian schools have such rules. Theologically, what they're doing is telling kids that "Salvation comes from works (i.e. what you do, and not what you believe)." That is against everything I've EVER been taught. They're totally putting words in God's mouth, so to speak, and it makes me mad.

They actually are Christian schools, not just "so-called" Christian schools.

Perhaps you've interpreted their message inaccurately. One could argue that they're telling their students that what they believe is reflected in their actions. So, if you believe Southern Baptist mores, your actions will reinforce your beliefs. Also, others will see what you believe because of your chosen actions. This is simply a strategic, evangelical move. Witnessing is good. Especially if you're in the business of attracting and retaining students.

I totally agree with you about being angered by someone who puts words in God's mouth.

PeppyGPhiB 12-13-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1562615)
I always find it so ironic that these so-called Christian schools have such rules. Theologically, what they're doing is telling kids that "Salvation comes from works (i.e. what you do, and not what you believe)." That is against everything I've EVER been taught. They're totally putting words in God's mouth, so to speak, and it makes me mad.

How do you know what all Christian universities are telling kids? There is a broad spectrum of Christian universities in this country, and it's not a good idea to assume what any of them are "telling" their students. But, it's probably fair to say that most Christian schools encourage their students to love and care for their fellow man, and one of the easiest and most effective ways to show that care is through action. Really, though, I see that just as much a "Golden rule" as anything.

But that has nothing to do with dress code. The schools that dictate dress code through ridiculous rules like women not being permitted to wear pants, don't trust their students. That's the bottom line. They don't trust their students to make grown-up decisions based on thought versus "feelings." THAT is the kind of Christian school you're talking about, and it's the minority. I'd appreciate it if you didn't group ALL Christian schools in with the extreme ones.

AlphaFrog 12-13-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1562852)
I'd appreciate it if you didn't group ALL Christian schools in with the extreme ones.


I missed the "ALL" part in what she said. "These 'so-called'" doesn't imply all.

33girl 12-13-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005 (Post 1562267)
*Cringes* at the mention of eating houses. :eek:

Why?

As for the references to "Christian" schools, I think that's why she said "these so-called" - that she was reinforcing your point, that not all schools that are affiliated with this or that Christian denomination have ridiculous and archaic rules.

33girl 12-13-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1562862)
I missed the "ALL" part. "These 'so-called'" doesn't imply all.

JINX BUY ME A COKE.

NutBrnHair 12-13-2007 04:42 PM

I'm a proud alumna of a good Southern Baptist school which was listed in Playboy's "Top Ten Party Schools" back in the eighties. Good times. :)

33girl 12-13-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1561413)
Several of the schools, Faulkner University, Oklahoma Christian University, Harding University, and Ohio Valley University, are all schools associated and supported by churches of Christ. These schools have "Greek Life" that are all locals and are referred to as 'social clubs'. They are fairly popular for all students to join. They vary in how they are governed. The 4 that I mentioned all conduct recruitment much like the Panhellenics.

Also, they have to abide by the rules of the campus. No drinking, no dancing, male students are only allowed in the common lobby area of the female dorms, female students are forbidden to enter the male dorms, and there is a curfew. All reasons why I chose to go to a public school. A friend and myself were the only 2 at my church who went to public colleges. The rest, about 15-20 while I was there, went to the church related schools.

Is it Church of Christ or Church of God? I thought COG was the more extreme one.

My cousin goes to Lancaster Bible and this thread was making me curious so I checked out their handbook....pretty much the same deal. My favorite phrase was "non-sensual dancing."

LaneSig 12-13-2007 06:08 PM

Since I started the hijack, let me add this: Those are old rules. Female students can wear pants to class now. I don't know about the shorts. The rules about dorm room visitations still apply.

And, like PeppyGPhiB said, one of the prevailing attitudes of the administrations is that your actions speak loudly. Or, as Momma always said: "Be careful how you act. You may be the only Bible that some people read." (Come to think of it, that is a good idea for Greeks. "Be careful how you act. You may be the only XYZ that some people see.")

And, if you don't agree with the rules, choose to do what I did: Go somewhere else.

Does Brigham Young Univ. still make their students sign a pledge saying that they will refrain from drinking, premarital sex, ect? See- we aren't the only ones.


ETA to respond to 33girl. It's churches of Christ (and yes, church is not capitalized for a reason). Churches of Christ are non-denominational. There is no governing body. Each is independent of the other.


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