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fantASTic 11-26-2007 08:20 PM

Gifts that hurt your feelings
 
What do you do when you get a gift for an anniversary or something that CLEARLY has no thought put into it?

I ask because I just celebrated my one-year anniversary with my boyfriend. I spent a lot of time finding the perfect gift for him, only to find that he bought me a sweatshirt that was WAY too big and was under $20. We tried to take it back to get one that was the right size, but they didn't even have one that fit me. I know it's silly, because it's just stuff, but it really hurt my feelings because he bought it the day of and didn't think about what I would like at all. I don't want to tell him and hurt HIS feelings, either. Ugh.

Advice?

teena 11-26-2007 08:32 PM

I had this happen. I want to say that you are being overly sensitive but i really think that the gift can speak volumes. Is he doing other things that make you question his commitment? Really think about it fairly. Peoples actions will speak much louder than their words.

James 11-26-2007 08:33 PM

If he is good in other dimensions of your relationships you may just want to get over it.

You might have put in thousands of hours of thought to his gift . . but well he probably doesn't care.

For many guys this just isn't an area they care a lot about.

In some ways, conventional romantic gifts exist so men don't have to put a lot of thought into eliciting the "awwwwww" effect. Jewelry, flowers, and cards require almost nothing except money and a minuscule amount of time. With the internet and credit cards its even easier.

I do agree that its indicative of a lack of understanding of romantic relationships, or maybe even just general lazy laziness or lack of energy.

Thats why I am saying you need to evaluate the rest of his actions. If he generally never goes the extra mile, or even worse doesn't understand that there is an extra mile, you have to ask yourself whether that is what you want.

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1553262)
What do you do when you get a gift for an anniversary or something that CLEARLY has no thought put into it?

I ask because I just celebrated my one-year anniversary with my boyfriend. I spent a lot of time finding the perfect gift for him, only to find that he bought me a sweatshirt that was WAY too big and was under $20. We tried to take it back to get one that was the right size, but they didn't even have one that fit me. I know it's silly, because it's just stuff, but it really hurt my feelings because he bought it the day of and didn't think about what I would like at all. I don't want to tell him and hurt HIS feelings, either. Ugh.

Advice?


nittanyalum 11-26-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1553262)
I ask because I just celebrated my one-year anniversary with my boyfriend. I spent a lot of time finding the perfect gift for him, only to find that he bought me a sweatshirt that was WAY too big and was under $20. We tried to take it back to get one that was the right size, but they didn't even have one that fit me. I know it's silly, because it's just stuff, but it really hurt my feelings because he bought it the day of and didn't think about what I would like at all. I don't want to tell him and hurt HIS feelings, either. Ugh.Advice?

In his defense, let's remember he's a guy. And guys, please don't take offense at that, I actually mean that in as positive a way as possible.

I am married to the most wonderful man, he is thoughtful (in his own, male, ways) and loves me very much, and has bought me some of the crappiest gifts under the sun. With love. Depending on the situation, I've just accepted it with a smile and an "oh, thank you, honey."

But there have been times where he really missed something big and, in the interests of our continuing to talk to each other, I sucked it up and approached him about it. And it turned out he needed me to tell him because he just didn't "get it". So the one time he just forgot to even get a card, he figured getting it late wouldn't have done any good, he thought he'd already totally blown it. I had to tell him that I operate on the "better late than never" scale. And one time when his gift was just so "out there" but he honestly thought I would like it, we had to talk about how I appreciate any time he thinks of me, but if he'd rather just ask before buying something rather than thinking he needs to surprise me, that would be better. And that made him more comfortable and I've gotten less crap.

So if you think this is a long-term relationship, I recommend you talk to him. You'll have to learn how to really talk to each other to make things work; if you can't tell him what you do and don't like, frankly, your relationship isn't going to make it anyway.

AlphaFrog 11-26-2007 08:54 PM

Maybe try to figure out WHY he got you the sweatshirt...

My husband got me an iron last year for Christmas. With 2 kids, I don't have time to iron, and I don't wear those kind of clothes - 98% of the time it's jeans/cords/no-iron slacks and a sweater or cotton blouse. The dryer suffices for my purposes. HOWEVER - since the year before, I had asked for a handheld, cordless vaccuum, and the year before that I asked for a set of knives, and the year before that it was caephlon pots and pans, an iron would be pretty logical in that sequence. And, even though I have yet to use it, I was pretty impressed by the thought process (even if he did go out on Christmas Eve and get it ;)).

SWTXBelle 11-26-2007 09:40 PM

Men do tend to be more gift-impaired. It might help to explain to him that a gift sends a message about how the giver feels about the receipient. So, a sweatshirt (just the name - yuck) doesn't say the kind of romantic things you would like an anniversary gift to say. I've written elsewhere about the man who bought a Waterford razor for his girlfriend one Valentine's Day - sending the message "Hey, honey, I think you are hairy!". The gift was returned, and the relationship ended. (!)
Context matters - most of the time, an electric appliance might not be a good idea, but if, like Alpha Frog, you had asked for one, it would indicate he was LISTENING to you. Is he friends with any of your friends? If so, he could ask them for help. But it may just be he isn't a good gift giver. My husband isn't - and it's just something I've learned to live with. If I really want something, I buy it and tell him to consider my gift taken care of!
Look at the overall guy - does his gift impairment indicate an overall lack of consideration, or is it just a minor flaw?

AlwaysSAI 11-26-2007 10:55 PM

I find it most useful to give men a list of a few things ie:

For our anniversary/christmas/hannakuh/birthday...you get it

I want: Item A, Item B, or Item C

Then, he knows exactly what to look for, there is still a little bit of suspense involved and everyone leaves happy.

I know it's not as 'romantic' as most people like, but it works for me pretty well.

DaemonSeid 11-26-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI (Post 1553371)
I find it most useful to give men a list of a few things ie:

For our anniversary/christmas/hannakuh/birthday...you get it

I want: Item A, Item B, or Item C

Then, he knows exactly what to look for, there is still a little bit of suspense involved and everyone leaves happy.

I know it's not as 'romantic' as most people like, but it works for me pretty well.

exactly....I ask my lady to give me an idea of what she wants...she may get them...she may not...and actually it doesn't hurt to be attentive when out shopping...if she lights up at something and doesn't get it...make a mental note. if she something in a slaes paper and doesn't get it....ditto.

Now if dude here forgot his one year anniversary and all he could do was think of a 20 buck oversized sweatshirt....eeeeehhhh..yeah....he would be in the doghouse...but I say talk to him..you may have a right to be angry but give him a chance to make it up and he better get it right....heheheh

catiebug 11-27-2007 08:26 AM

AlphaFrog--

I understand so much here, but I have to say that was the sweetest story. He listened to you and got you what, in his mind, you wanted. That tells me he put some thought into the gift.
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1553294)
Maybe try to figure out WHY he got you the sweatshirt...

My husband got me an iron last year for Christmas. With 2 kids, I don't have time to iron, and I don't wear those kind of clothes - 98% of the time it's jeans/cords/no-iron slacks and a sweater or cotton blouse. The dryer suffices for my purposes. HOWEVER - since the year before, I had asked for a handheld, cordless vaccuum, and the year before that I asked for a set of knives, and the year before that it was caephlon pots and pans, an iron would be pretty logical in that sequence. And, even though I have yet to use it, I was pretty impressed by the thought process (even if he did go out on Christmas Eve and get it ;)).

I have been married almost 15 years (ack!), and my husband didn't really start buying me gifts until about three years ago. His excuse? "Well, if you want something, you just go out and get it yourself!" I stopped getting things for myself (he was right - it was just easier that way), and now I give him a list of things I want/need. Do I get everything on the list? No, but I also get some things *not* on the list, so those things are sweet. He knows what I collect, so there are always a couple of those items under the tree and at other occasions.

But I do have to say - I have never received a $20 sweatshirt two sizes too big for me.

DSTCHAOS 11-27-2007 11:56 AM

My guy takes gifts verrrrrry seriously so I wouldn't have to worry about this.

I wasn't a gift person but have learned that gifts are important to him and now they're important to me. We both put a lot of time and effort into our gifts to each other. I would feel disrespected if he bought me something crappy b/c it would make him an inconsiderate hypocrite. :) And that's never okay whether we're talking about gifts or something else.

I don't buy gifts for anyone besides my significant other so I don't care what those people give me. If I don't like it, I'll say "thanks" and give it away or something. My family and friends aren't gift exchanger types, anyway.

Cardinal026 11-27-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1553308)
Look at the overall guy - does his gift impairment indicate an overall lack of consideration, or is it just a minor flaw?

I think this is a good point to look at, along with AlphaFrog's story about the iron. My fiance (still can't get used to saying that word!) and I have been dating for over 7 years...I also put a LOT of thought into gifts. Last Christmas was our first year living together, and I was so excited for weeks about us doing each other's Christmas stockings. Christmas morning, his was overflowing. Mine had a box of Poptarts. My feelings were hurt at the time, until he pointed out the humor (still, to him only, ha) of my favorite breakfast being the gift. He actually went out and bought them especially for that. I'm likely never going to get a thoughtful or creative present for anniversaries or holidays...but I have a beautiful ring and perfect relationship, so that outweighs everything else to me in the long run. :)

fantASTic 11-27-2007 07:58 PM

In general, he's considerate. He doesn't give me any reason to doubt his feelings - in fact, the opposite. You guys had some good points. Thanks. :)

texas*princess 11-27-2007 08:22 PM

An ex boyfriend of mine once bought me a TV a few years back.

I was honestly turned off by that. It was essentially a gift for him when he came over to my apartment because I guess he felt my TV was inadequate or something. The TV he got me wasn't even a huge step up -- this was before TVs got cool with flat screens and HD.

tld221 11-27-2007 11:42 PM

for my bday, my ex started to drop hints, alluding to something being delivered to my house. flowers? candy? hmm, i was pretty excited by the seemingly romantic gesture behind it all.

i sign for the package... so flowers are out. shook the box, no noises. so a puppy is out (not that id really want one anyway...) i open it and its a "photography for dummies" book that he got off Amazon.

to him, it made sense - i was taking a photo class at the time. to me it totally put us back in friendzone. nothing about a used book from the internet scream, "hey, i dig you!"

ladies and gents, that was the beginning of the end. i mean chalk it up to lack of communication: should i have expressed that i wanted something more romantic? or was i wrong to assume that a delivery meant flowers or something? most importantly, perhaps he figured that ive always been a practical person so a practical gift made the most sense? hmm dunno.

Cluey 11-27-2007 11:43 PM

This is going to sound crazy, but it depends on what your love language is. I have found that I tend to agree with that book and how people express their feelings for others.

For me, I like to give and receive gifts. I'm also not a good liar when I get a crappy present. For example, an ex of mine gave me a pen once. No joke! I had given him a list of things that I wanted, yet he had decided not to listen to me, not to go with things that he knows that I would like and get me a pen. I felt like I was stuck in Say Anything -- "I gave you my heart and you gave me a pen?" What in the world would make that seem like a good idea? I have no clue.

AGDee 11-28-2007 12:00 AM

Just wait til you have kids! Their dad takes them to pick out something for me (very considerate since we're divorced.. but I do the same for him) and in the last couple years, I have received a mini muffin pan (so I can make them mini banana muffins) and a smoothie maker (so I can make them smoothies). My daughter is actually getting better though. She included a candle and some bubble bath last time too. It's nice to see that she's "getting it" now.

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1553262)
I ask because I just celebrated my one-year anniversary with my boyfriend. I spent a lot of time finding the perfect gift for him, only to find that he bought me a sweatshirt that was WAY too big and was under $20.

He probably got it off of the $5.00 clearance rack. LOL:D

AKA_Monet 12-02-2007 02:23 AM

At least he doesn't forget... My husband did that ONCE!!! I did not allow him to forget it again. I said even if he has to draw a picture on a piece of scratch paper with "Happy _______________"! he is doing something...

As far as actual physical items, like clothes: I'd be creative on how I handle that... I would take him shopping with me and say we will be shopping for "power tools", and I would stop by "Babes in Toyland"... And say to him, "Which fabric to you prefer disrobing me from A vs. B?"

That would end the 10XXX sized sweatshirt issue...

Then you always can purchase a "pop up book" with full color diagrams...

Puts a whole new "spin" on the game "Twister"...

LatinaAlumna 12-02-2007 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1553279)
Jewelry, flowers, and cards require almost nothing except money and a minuscule amount of time.

Yep. I had been dating this guy for two years, and he showed up on my birthday LATE with a dozen roses that were still wet on the bottom (meaning, he stopped along the way over to pick some up because he didn't take the time to find any other gift). I'll never forget that! :mad: I was all dressed up and everything, waiting around for a whole hour, and he shows up with that! I promptly threw them in the wastebasket down the hall (I was living in a dorm) and all the girls thought I was a nut!

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1553898)
nothing about a used book from the internet scream, "hey, i dig you!"

That is HEINOUS. :eek:

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1553262)
We tried to take it back to get one that was the right size, but they didn't even have one that fit me.

For $5.00 one size fits all. LMAO!:D

LatinaAlumna 12-02-2007 02:50 AM

^Wow, for $5 more he could have at least had her letters embroidered on it!

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1556158)
^Wow, for $5 more he could have at least had her letters embroidered on it!

ROTFLMAO! Dying....Dy.....ing. :D


PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1556158)
^Wow, for $5 more he could have at least had her letters embroidered on it!

Wait. He couldn't do that because he bought it the day of their anniversary. It would have been late as hell. LMAO!:D

LatinaAlumna 12-02-2007 03:01 AM

^LOL! I was thinking of the swap meets here in CA where you can buy a $5 sweatshirt and have it embroidered on the spot all at the same vendor booth. :)

(Hey, those places are great for neos who want a lot of gear but don't have a lot of money! :) )

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1556164)
^LOL! I was thinking of the swap meets here in CA where you can buy a $5 sweatshirt and have it embroidered on the spot all at the same vendor booth. :)

(Hey, those places are great for neos who want a lot of gear but don't have a lot of money! :) )

That's pretty kool. I've never seen anything like that.

But in the OP case the $5.00 sweatshirt she got from the clearance rack sounds like one of the kind you wash once, and it's over. LOL.

LatinaAlumna 12-02-2007 03:08 AM

OP: did the sweatshirt at least say something on it? or was it just plain?

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1553898)
for my bday, my ex started to drop hints, alluding to something being delivered to my house. flowers? candy? hmm, i was pretty excited by the seemingly romantic gesture behind it all.

i sign for the package... so flowers are out. shook the box, no noises. so a puppy is out (not that id really want one anyway...) i open it and its a "photography for dummies" book that he got off Amazon.

to him, it made sense - i was taking a photo class at the time. to me it totally put us back in friendzone. nothing about a used book from the internet scream, "hey, i dig you!"

ladies and gents, that was the beginning of the end. i mean chalk it up to lack of communication: should i have expressed that i wanted something more romantic? or was i wrong to assume that a delivery meant flowers or something? most importantly, perhaps he figured that ive always been a practical person so a practical gift made the most sense? hmm dunno.

Who knows? Kmart probably has a special on $2.00 sweatshirts though. LOL.

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1556167)
OP: did the sweatshirt at least say something on it? or was it just plain?

For $5.00? C'mon girl. You know it was plain. :p

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1553262)
Advice?

Yup. Next year buy that joker a $10.00 suit from Walmart. "The day of.":D

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1553308)
Men do tend to be more gift-impaired.

I disagree. What's wrong with a romantic dinner from her favorite place to dine, and a gift card from her favorite place to shop? That way she can pick out whatever she wants. Sounds pretty simple to me.

AKA_Monet 12-02-2007 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1556172)
I disagree. What's wrong with a romantic dinner from her favorite place to dine, and a gift card from her favorite place to shop? That way she can pick out whatever she wants. Sounds pretty simple to me.

Gift cards are so impersonal... I want to know if you struggled and put some effort to find a gift for me, even though it may just be a card with a love note in it.

If you purchase my gift at the last minute, what does that say about how you'd treat me? Like the last minute? Or an after-thought?

At least with a card, where you write XXXOOOXXX and it has some cute figures and says "Happy _______________", Love _______________ then that gives me reason to at least feel "secure" in OUR relationship...

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1556175)
Gift cards are so impersonal... I want to know if you struggled and put some effort to find a gift for me, even though it may just be a card with a love note in it.

If you purchase my gift at the last minute, what does that say about how you'd treat me? Like the last minute? Or an after-thought?

At least with a card, where you write XXXOOOXXX and it has some cute figures and says "Happy _______________", Love _______________ then that gives me reason to at least feel "secure" in OUR relationship...

I'd rather get my girl a nice gift card that she can spend on whatever she desires rather than a $5.00 sweatshirt "the day of".

Something like a trip to the spa, or a nice massage. A gift where she can be pampered. I think she should be pampered on her anniversary, and it should be an all day thing for her. Those are some of the things I would do, but everyone is different.

AKA_Monet 12-02-2007 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1556176)
I'd rather get my girl a nice gift card that she can spend on whatever she desires than a $5.00 sweatshirt the day of.

Well, if all the guy can afford is a $5 sweatshirt, that's one thing. After a year of dating, he should have done better. I still find "gift cards" to stores from my "S/O" impersonal. That is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1556176)
Something like a trip to the spa, or a nice massage. A gift where she can be pampered. I think she should be pampered on her anniversary, and it should be an all day thing for her. Those are some of the things I would do, but everyone is different.

If you were to do something like that, you kinna have to set up a "DATE" with her for the entire day. I would suggest you go out of town to like 50-100 miles out to a "resort". More "gaming casino's" are incorporating spa services, too. If there is a "snow resort" that is not too far, then go there. It would be a place you'd drive to, now. I would not do it in the same city because folks have their own people they like to use for those services. Then, I would not just "hand her" the certificate for the services, because what the spas do is rip folks off and that's not just for waxings...

For services, I would get a menu of items. The most basic is the 30 minute to 45 minute swedish massage, with a basic facial and a pedicure--not manicure, because many women have arcylic nails--but I remember you date an "natural" type of girl...

I only say this is because my husband got me spa services and they tried to jack me until my husband called them and told them to stick it. And the place he sent me was rather ritzy...

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1556180)
Well, if all the guy can afford is a $5 sweatshirt, that's one thing. After a year of dating, he should have done better. I still find "gift cards" to stores from my "S/O" impersonal. That is my opinion.

I was only teasing the OP with my earlier comments. I still have a headache from laughing so hard at Latina's comments and my own jokes.:);)

I wouldn't just get a gift card only. I would plan the whole day for her. The gift card would be a part of it though. I wouldn't know what to get her as far as clothing is concerned, so the gift card would take care of that. Hey, I don't have a lot of money either, but I would plan it way in advance so she would be able to have a nice anniversary. It doesn't have to be expensive, just a day for her. That's all. Hell, I wouldn't want a sack chasing woman anyway. Like you said it's the thought behind it, not the price. Doing it the day of though? To me that's not cool. I even think a nice "horse & carriage" ride through downtown on a cold day (dress warm of course) so the two of you can snuggle would be really nice. Those are not expensive at all.

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1556175)
At least with a card, where you write XXXOOOXXX and it has some cute figures and says "Happy _______________", Love _______________ then that gives me reason to at least feel "secure" in OUR relationship...

That's because you're a rare good woman.;)

AKA_Monet 12-02-2007 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyBoy (Post 1556181)
[B][I][COLOR=darkred]I wouldn't just get a gift card only. I would plan the whole day for her. The gift card would be a part of it though. I wouldn't know what to get her as far as clothing is concerned, so the gift card would take care of that. Hey, I don't have a lot of money either, but I would plan it way in advance so she would be able to have a nice anniversary. It doesn't have to be expensive, just a day for her. That's all. Hell, I wouldn't want a sack chasing woman anyway. Like you said it's the thought behind it, not the price. Doing it the day of though? To me that's not cool. I even think a nice "horse & carriage" ride through downtown on a cold day (dress warm of course) so the two of you can snuggle would be really nice. Those are not expensive at all.

The fact is she wants to spend time with you... Not to sound arrogant, but the gift of quality time is more important to me than a size 10XXX $5 sweatshirt.

For my husband's gifts, I connect with something I know he would enjoy--usually through his stomach... So, I cook him a large dinner. For Christmas, we have developed a running joke, I purchase superior cuts of "exotic meat" and I cook it for him. I want to see if he, as a veterinarian would eat it. More often than not, he does...

Let's just say some of these items tastes like chicken...

PrettyBoy 12-02-2007 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1556187)
a size 10XXX $5 sweatshirt.

LMAO!:D

KSUViolet06 12-03-2007 02:31 PM

Guys can be a a little gift-impaired.

That is why I always just TELL the guy a few things I would like for my birthday/Christmas/whatever. This way I don't end up with something I don't want AND he still gets to surprise me (since I gave him options).


TrojanWoman 12-03-2007 03:07 PM

I had an ex give me an extra large, men's, USC t-shirt for Christmas one year. I'm 5'3" and usually wear a size small, women's shirt. I understand that he was thinking that I love USC and was going to a bowl game, but still, extra large men's shirt???

My current guy and I still laugh at that story and he threatens to repeat the gift every time an occasion comes up

Glitter650 12-03-2007 03:33 PM

This thread makes me think of the episode of Full House where Steve gets DJ a U of Miami sweatshirt and she cries and cries, anyone remember that one ?


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